American Dad or Family Guy?

[Rosa Partizan]

I really need to know which one you like more, this is way more important than ISIS, Marx, feminazi issues etc.

[Hrafn]

Definitely American Dad.

[Rugged Collectivist]

American dad. It's close though.

[M-L-C-F]

Family Guy.

[Zoroaster]

Family Guy.

[Zukunftsmusik]

how about neither

[Rosa Partizan]

how about neither

Do you think that the CIA just wanted to annoy the Sowjets and their Cosmonauts?

[Bala Perdida]

American Dad. I haven't watched the recent episodes though.

[Zukunftsmusik]

Do you think that the CIA just wanted to annoy the Sowjets and their Cosmonauts?

wut

[Art Vandelay]

how about neither

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Redistribute the Rep]

What the fuck is American Dad?

[motion denied]

American Dad is shit, but the episode where some Russian commie turns that kid into a communist is good.

Family Guy because of Stewie, the little fucker.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

American Dad has actually managed to become its own animal over the years, once Seth McFarlane allowed the production team more free reign over the material.

That said, I still watch Family Guy whenever its on. Stewie is that show's one saving grace. He never, ever gets old. May he never age past toddler-hood.

[Hrafn]

Hate to break it to you people, but if you don't enjoy AD over FG, you're about as classless as the society you want to create.

[Rosa Partizan]

Hate to break it to you people, but if you don't enjoy AD over FG, you're about as classless as the society you want to create.

I love you.

Really. It's not sympathy, it's pure love.

[Zukunftsmusik]

Hate to break it to you people, but if you don't enjoy AD over FG, you're about as classless as the society you want to create.

Yeah, all those transphobic jokes are so classy.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

The moon landing wasn't staged it just didn't happen on our moon. I abstain from voting in protest of the lack of correct answers

[Rosa Partizan]

The moon landing wasn't staged it just didn't happen on our moon. I abstain from voting in protest of the lack of correct answers

Answer 1 is correct you liberal fool.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

It can be funny and then all of a sudden they make a joke about one minority or another and I turn it off. I'm more of a 5 day weather forecast kind of guy these days

[Hrafn]

Yeah, all those transphobic jokes are so classy.

Lol, yeah, keep being mad. Doesn't change the fact that American Dad is legitimately funnier and more enjoyable than Family Guy, which I personally would say features equal amounts of transphobia, homophobia, sexism, racism. etc.

Rosa, ze feeling is mutual.

[Zukunftsmusik]

I'm not mad, it was just a poor attempt at trolling. Idc if people watch shows with sexist, racist etc jokes, who am I to police that kind of thing. I probably watch a lot of films and series with that kind of content too, and can enjoy them in spite of that. I just don't think Family Guy and American Dad are good shows, but I think I got that message accross. I'll go do something useful instead.

[Hrafn]

All media is full of bullshit. It's hard to avoid.

[Slavic]

I concur with Hrafn,

The cut away side jokes in Family Guy became stale and talentless past season 1. American Dad is able to have a funny plot that doesn't rely on cheap non-story related jokes.

[Rosa Partizan]

I concur with Hrafn,

The cut away side jokes in Family Guy became stale and talentless past season 1. American Dad is able to have a funny plot that doesn't rely on cheap non-story related jokes.

you really need to watch the SouthPark-Episodes "Cartoon Wars I+II", they exactly mock those non-story related jokes in a hilarious way and explain how the FG-jokes come into being. Not gonna spoiler you or anyone who hasn't seen them, but it was great.

[Slavic]

you really need to watch the SouthPark-Episodes "Cartoon Wars I+II", they exactly mock those non-story related jokes in a hilarious way and explain how the FG-jokes come into being. Not gonna spoiler you or anyone who hasn't seen them, but it was great.

Ill spoil it.

Whales or dolphins push balls that contain nouns, verbs, and adjectives into baskets which form the random cut away jokes.

Its actually pretty fucking spot on.

[Rosa Partizan]

Ill spoil it.


you're a blast at parties, right?

[Slavic]

you're a blast at parties, right?

I try my best.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

Ill spoil it.

Whales or dolphins push balls that contain nouns, verbs, and adjectives into baskets which form the random cut away jokes.

Its actually pretty fucking spot on.

They're manatees, actually.

[Rosa Partizan]

They're manatees, actually.

everyone loves wisenheimers :wub: (actually, I'm one, too)

[The Intransigent Faction]

Okay, I admit it, I've been watching an episode of Family Guy each evening while eating dinner because I haven't felt like sitting through more "1 hour dramas". I'm so ashamed!

Seriously, I know nobody's gonna give a shit and I'm going to be called uptight, or whatever else, but re-watching a couple of the early episodes made it clear just how fucking transphobic, sexist, racist and otherwise bigoted/stupid some of the humor is.
That doesn't mean both shows don't have their moments, though. I could name a couple of choice episodes.

Between the two I guess I'd go with Family Guy, though, just because Roger is so fucking annoying, and because Family Guy came first so I was more forgiving about it seeming like a dumbed-down "edgy" Simpsons knockoff.

[Rosa Partizan]

Omg dude Roger is the best!!!!!

[motion denied]

I'm rethinking my vote because I remembered that Family Guy gave birth to The Cleveland Show; i.e., the worst thing ever.

[Slavic]

Omg dude Roger is the best!!!!!

Roger is the Stewie of American Dad, but with better outfits.

[The Intransigent Faction]

Omg dude Roger is the best!!!!!

My favourite of his personalities is the one that took out a hit on him, and I don't think that's a coincidence. :grin:

[M-L-C-F]

You people do realize that Seth MacFarlane is an advocate for LGBT rights, right? He's also criticized racist pieces of shit as well. Jokes are jokes, get a fucking grip. If you don't like it, don't watch it. I mean, fuck him, he's a liberal. But I'd rather deal with a liberal atheist like him, before a lot of the other people in the bourgeois media.

I like Family Guy, American Dad is alright, and I didn't mind The Cleveland Show either. I also like Seth MacFarlane's work on Johnny Bravo, and the other cartoons that he's worked on too. The same goes with his work on the new Cosmos show, and him being the advocate to those assholes at Fox, to even get it made in the first place.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Seth MacFarlane may be this or that, but in the end he's a heterosexual white man who has made a fortune making fun of women, homosexuals, trans people etc. Do you really think the majority of his audience comes away from his shows realizing how silly it is to attack those groups, or do you think it's more likely that he's just reinforced their existing bigoted notions?

I'm not trying to be the fun police, but comedy is still political even if we don't want it to be.

[M-L-C-F]

Seth MacFarlane may be this or that, but in the end he's a heterosexual white man who has made a fortune making fun of women, homosexuals, trans people etc. Do you really think the majority of his audience comes away from his shows realizing how silly it is to attack those groups, or do you think it's more likely that he's just reinforced their existing bigoted notions?

I'm not trying to be the fun police, but comedy is still political even if we don't want it to be.

To be fucking honest, I think that you'd be surprised. I personally think that a good lot of the audience realizes that it's only silly bullshit. That they're making fun of how stupid it is, and that's what they're laughing at, alongside the joke. But then again, maybe I'm just being an optimist, and merely going on the intent of such shows. It takes a lot in comedy to offend me. There's difference between making fun of prejudices and chauvinism, and actually being prejudice and chauvinistic. I'm of the mindset that it's good to make fun of how stupid things are. What's even more funny, is that I'm more libertarian on this damn subject, than the fucking anarchists on this site. Which was displayed the last time this sorta topic came up.

[Rosa Partizan]

I'm not quite sure, but what about South Park? They have this shit all the time. Look at Cartman, he's the biggest douchebag ever (still love him to pieces :wub:). Know that episode when he asked Kyle for his Jew gold and Kyle REALLY had it? Isn't this actually "antisemitic"? And Kyle's mother has a "Jew nose", and many, many more of this stuff. But at the same time, it's fucking hilarious, I really laugh my ass off about all of these Jew jokes, but also about the other ones. I guess part of that is because Cartman is not presented as some adorable character, but as the biggest psychopath. So why would such jokes be okay, but those from FG/AD not?

[M-L-C-F]

I'm not quite sure, but what about South Park? They have this shit all the time. Look at Cartman, he's the biggest douchebag ever (still love him to pieces :wub:). Know that episode when he asked Kyle for his Jew gold and Kyle REALLY had it? Isn't this actually "antisemitic"? And Kyle's mother has a "Jew nose", and many, many more of this stuff. But at the same time, it's fucking hilarious, I really laugh my ass off about all of these Jew jokes, but also about the other ones. I guess part of that is because Cartman is not presented as some adorable character, but as the biggest psychopath. So why would such jokes be okay, but those from FG/AD not?

It's all about intent as well. Those assholes at South Park are a mixed bag really. They're incredibly reactionary on some things, but seem almost progressive on other things. It's a case by case basis. But from what I've read, Matt Stone and Trey Parker are libertarians though. While Matt Stone is ethnically Jewish. (Which honestly excuses the Jew jokes. Like how Carl Reiner and Mel Brooks are "self-hating" Jews, and have also made a whole lotta Jewish jokes in their time.) Which would explain it. The same goes with Penn and Teller too. They're libertarian atheists, and while libertarian skepticism is pseudoskepticism. They make some excellent points socially, and against pseusoscience. Again, it all depends on the context and the situation.

That being said, South Park is funny, and I watch it. I don't feel bad either. It's just a TV show, for fucks sake.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

To be fucking honest, I think that you'd be surprised. I personally think that a good lot of the audience realizes that it's only silly bullshit. That they're making fun of how stupid it is, and that's what they're laughing at, alongside the joke. But then again, maybe I'm just being an optimist, and merely going on the intent of such shows. It takes a lot in comedy to offend me. There's difference between making fun of prejudices and chauvinism, and actually being prejudice and chauvinistic. I'm of the mindset that it's good to make fun of how stupid things are. What's even more funny, is that I'm more libertarian on this damn subject, than the fucking anarchists on this site. Which was displayed the last time this sorta topic came up.

I think you're being overly optimistic. When the audience is laughing at the deaf character for instance, its not because they've finally realized how unfair and ridiculous it is to lampoon disabled people, they're laughing at it because Seth Macfarlane thought it was be funny for a deaf man to be the butt of a joke, and apparently it is. South Park falls in the same category as these two shows, although I admit I haven't watched much of it. However the people I interact with who do watch it are not people I would rate very highly regarding social issues, or people I'm excited to interact with in the first place.

In what way are your opinions a demonstration of libertarianism on your part? It looks like you're getting defensive about something you like, that's a pretty universal phenomenon separate from politics. Did I express a desire to censor these shows in one of my posts without realizing it?

[M-L-C-F]

I think you're being overly optimistic. When the audience is laughing at the deaf character for instance, its not because they've finally realized how unfair and ridiculous it is to lampoon disabled people, they're laughing at it because Seth Macfarlane thought it was be funny for a deaf man to be the butt of a joke, and apparently it is. South Park falls in the same category as these two shows, although I admit I haven't watched much of it. However the people I interact with who do watch it are not people I would rate very highly regarding social issues, or people I'm excited to interact with in the first place.

In what way are your opinions a demonstration of libertarianism on your part? It looks like you're getting defensive about something you like, that's a pretty universal phenomenon separate from politics. Did I express a desire to censor these shows in one of my posts without realizing it?

With the greased up deaf guy. I would say that they're laughing at the premise of trying to catch a greased up deaf guy. Which in itself, is totally ridiculous. But then again, that's how I take it.

Who's getting defensive? Cause I'm certainly not. I'm annoyed with what seems like oversensitivity on this site, more than anything. Honestly, the way it comes off by people here, is that they'd have it censored, if they'd get their way. At least that's like how it seems to me. So my bad, for the assumption. The internet doesn't really translate the tone all that well. :p

[Bala Perdida]

That new comedy central show Brickleberry is horrible as fuck when it comes to stereotypes. I watch it though and it makes me laugh more than any other animated comedy right now. I won't repeat it's offenses, but some might. To them I say fuck you!

[M-L-C-F]

That new comedy central show Brickleberry is horrible as fuck when it comes to stereotypes. I watch it though and it makes me laugh more than any other animated comedy right now. I won't repeat it's offenses, but some might. To them I say fuck you!

I haven't seen it, but I wanna start watching it. Cause I like Daniel Tosh and Tom Kenny. Daniel Tosh is hilarious, and he's also another advocate for LGBT rights. He pisses the oversensitive people here off. Which I find funny all by itself. While the last sentence in your post, reminds me of how a few people ruin things for everyone, and it's why we can't have nice things. :lol:

[Quail]

I think both Family Guy and American Dad have had some funny moments but I also find myself feeling pretty uncomfortable with some of the jokes. I don't think we can separate comedy from the political context; "comedy" that makes oppressed or marginalised people the butt of the joke perpetuates the dehumanisation of those people. Call me humourless, but I don't find that kind of shit funny.

[M-L-C-F]

Oh, and I'm not immune to being offended by jokes either. Any jokes that are anti-communist/anti-socialist, or against rational thought/atheism really piss me off. But I either just mute it, change the channel, or I just don't watch that specific episode ever. I can easily ignore things, let it go, and still not have it bother me. Otherwise, I'd go nuts. I laugh with people, not at them.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

I think both Family Guy and American Dad have had some funny moments but I also find myself feeling pretty uncomfortable with some of the jokes. I don't think we can separate comedy from the political context; "comedy" that makes oppressed or marginalised people the butt of the joke perpetuates the dehumanisation of those people. Call me humourless, but I don't find that kind of shit funny.

In capitalist society, minority groups are going to fare badly in media no matter what, I think. My problem with these shows is that (1) they are genuinely, drearily, soul-crushingly unfunny, and (2) the "look at us we can laugh at gay people we're so progressive and cool" liberals are drawn to these shows like... well, insert your favourite demeaning comparison here, and these people basically deserve a one-way trip to a Lagrange point somewhere in the Solar System.

[Lord Testicles]

I haven't watched either in a long time, they both got old a long time ago. Right now it's all about Archer and Bojack Horseman.

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So I voted "The landing on the moon was staged by the CIA

[Hrafn]

Don't even bring Archer into this, Skinz. That's on a whooooole different level, up there in the heavens with Rick & Morty.

[Lord Testicles]

Don't even bring Archer into this, Skinz. That's on a whooooole different level, up there in the heavens with Rick & Morty.

Oh man, I can't believe that I forgot about Rick & Morty. Rick & Morty is absolute gold, I can't wait for the second season.

You should win an internet just for bringing that up and reminding me of it's existence.

[Hrafn]

I'm so hyped for the second season.

[M-L-C-F]

Rick & Morty and Archer are excellent. But The Venture Bros. is my favourite current cartoon. I can't wait for the next season. Though also I'm pumped for more Rick & Morty too.

[Art Vandelay]

Anyone like clone high?

[GiantMonkeyMan]

I hate Family Guy. Really don't get why anyone would like it.

[Blake's Baby]

Why is this even a question?

[Rugged Collectivist]

I only saw one episode of Rick and Morty. I loved it. Sometimes I wish I still had cable, or that Netflix had more tv shows, and more seasons of TV shows for that matter! I'm falling behind on the venture bros and archer, and it took forever to get the new season of parks and rec. Still waiting on the walking dead.

[Slavic]

Rick and morty!!!!


edit*
Why the hell can't I all caps?

[Bala Perdida]

Rick and Morty is awesome. Bojack is like a meh to me. I'm all caught up on Archer. That show Chozen was pretty interesting, I wonder if that's gonna resurface or die out like it's predecessor Unsupervised.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

I liked clone high

[Slavic]

Rick and Morty is awesome. Bojack is like a meh to me. I'm all caught up on Archer. That show Chozen was pretty interesting, I wonder if that's gonna resurface or die out like it's predecessor Unsupervised.

eh I wasn't to thrilled with either Chozen or Unsupervised.

Chozen has some potential

[Hrafn]

Started watching Bojack yesterday. It's not amazing, but certainly good.

[Rosa Partizan]

wtf are you even talking about? Never heard of this show/these shows.
Anyway, my eternal #1 is South Park. Simpsons bored the fuck out of me after season 10.

[Rugged Collectivist]

The genius of BoJack horseman unfolds slowly over the course of the season, and then it hits you at the end like a runaway bullet train. Stay the course friends, it's worth it.

[M-L-C-F]

They cancelled Chozen unfortunately. At the same time they also cancelled Legit. Which really pissed me off, cause I loved Legit, and Jim Jefferies is fucking hilarious.

As for The Simpsons, after season 9 it sucks. Though after season 7, it gets spotty at times. The main reason why I even watch The Simpsons now, is cause I play The Simpsons: Tapped Out, and it links the game to the new episodes. But that Simpsons-Family Guy crossover was alright, I think.

Rosa Partizan has got one of the great cartoon characters of the '90s as her avatar. Daria was fucking awesome. Not as good as Beavis and Butt-head, but still awesome.

[Art Vandelay]

At the same time they also cancelled Legit.

Waahhhttt??? That's lame.

[Bala Perdida]

Goddamn. I liked Chozen, and my peak Simpsons seasons are 1998-2005. The earlier animation is strange nowadays.

[M-L-C-F]

my peak Simpsons seasons are 1998-2005. The earlier animation is strange nowadays.

Ugh, kids... :rolleyes:

[The Intransigent Faction]

wtf are you even talking about? Never heard of this show/these shows.
Anyway, my eternal #1 is South Park. Simpsons bored the fuck out of me after season 13.

That must be what you meant, or I'd have to stop taking anything you say about TV seriously!

The episode in which Homer smokes pot was awesome.

[Bala Perdida]

Ugh, kids... :rolleyes:

Not being able to like this is also strange. More infuriating if you ask me. At least I am able to like the old Simpsons, unlike this post!:mad:

[M-L-C-F]

Not being able to like this is also strange. More infuriating if you ask me. At least I am able to like the old Simpsons, unlike this post!:mad:

Yeah... That post wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I was just fucking around with you. :p

[Bala Perdida]

Yeah... That post wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I was just fucking around with you. :p
I know that, I wanted to show my appreciation by likeing it but I can't! :mad:

[M-L-C-F]

Oh, you meant the like feature. I thought the post made you mad. My bad, it makes more sense now. Yeah, Chit-Chat isn't a serious forum. Which is why you can't like or give reputation points. I understand that point. But other forum areas where it doesn't add to your post count, have the feature. So Chit-Chat should probably have it as well. For consistences sake, at the very least.

[Rosa Partizan]

I like how you put a headline above your posts. :spamspam:

[Slavic]

I like how you put a headline above your posts. :spamspam:

Lols I just realized that you could do that.

Any Sealab fans out there?

[Lord Testicles]

Lols I just realized that you could do that.

Any Sealab fans out there?

*slowly raises hand...

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[M-L-C-F]

I like Sealab 2021, the original Sealab 2020 was boring as fuck. I miss old Adult Swim. The people who made Sealab 2021 made Frisky Dingo, and they make Archer. Frisky Dingo was fucking awesome. But what I really loved was Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law. Until that piece of shit Stephen Colbert left, and ruined it. He also stopped doing voiceovers all together. So he doesn't voice Dr. Impossible on The Venture Bros. anymore either. Cause he's far too famous for that shit now.

Which also brings up him and his inevitable ruining of The Late Show, after David Letterman leaves. Then with Craig Ferguson being done after the end of the year, Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers who are annoying, Arsenio Hall getting cancelled, and Chelsea Handler leaving Chelsea Lately. There will be no one good left at all, on late night. :(

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[Slavic]

Oh man forgot about Frisky Dingo. Yea Adult Swim had some quality shows going for it.

I remember watching Space Ghost: Coast to Coast late night when I was young.

[M-L-C-F]

Space Ghost Coast to Coast was on the air a long time. It started in 1994 (way before Adult Swim), and new episodes were being made up until 2008. The Brak Show and Aqua Teen Hunger Force were both spinoffs of it, and Cartoon Planet is back with Brak and Zorak. With no Space Ghost this time, which sucks, but it's still good.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

I do miss some of the cartoons of my youth. I loved the old Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon that came on Saturday Mornings (not the silly one, the action packed cyberpunkish one). Road Rovers was also a personal favorite.

The 80s had some great action cartoons to....and I'm not talking about He-Man or Thundercats. I'm talking things like Exosquad and Galaxy Rangers.

EDIT: Exosquad was actually from the early 90s. Still pretty awesome, though.

[Slavic]

Space Ghost Coast to Coast was on the air a long time. It started in 1994 (way before Adult Swim), and new episodes were being made up until 2008. The Brak Show and Aqua Teen Hunger Force were both spinoffs of it, and Cartoon Planet is back with Brak and Zorak. With no Space Ghost this time, which sucks, but it's still good.

Except that everyone hates Brak

[M-L-C-F]

Except that everyone hates Brak

But, I like Brak... :ohmy:

[Rosa Partizan]

The current South Park episode the cissy is awesome, you guys have to watch it. I love how very good points were made about being transgender and cis, in how far your sexual identity conforms to sexual preferences etc blah blah, soooo good. And don't get me started about Randy as Lorde :wub:

[Quail]

I do miss some of the cartoons of my youth. I loved the old Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon that came on Saturday Mornings (not the silly one, the action packed cyberpunkish one). Road Rovers was also a personal favorite.


Unfortunately I have every episode of this on DVD and my son went through a phase of wanting to watch it every. fucking. day.

[Bala Perdida]

The current South Park episode the cissy is awesome, you guys have to watch it. I love how very good points were made about being transgender and cis, in how far your sexual identity conforms to sexual preferences etc blah blah, soooo good. And don't get me started about Randy as Lorde :wub:
I had no idea who Lorde was before this episode. As for the message, I thought it was okay. I like the effects on Stan more than anything.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

Unfortunately I have every episode of this on DVD and my son went through a phase of wanting to watch it every. fucking. day.

Your son has good taste. ;)