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A.J.
21st September 2014, 12:20
Last sunday during the midst of the referendum campaign on Scottish independence I had the most unpleasant experience of a Labour party student activist, noticing I was wearing "Yes" badge(I will perhaps get back as to why I changed my mind on the issue of secession at a later time), repeatedly foist a union jack in my face screaming "Vote No!" as I walked past the Scottish Labour 'No Thanks' stall in the city centre. What was especially galling about this incident was that several senior local labour party figures(including an MP, an MSP and several members of the city council) standing just yards away who, if not looking on approvingly, didn't display any kind of objection to such shamlessly chauvanistic behaviour.


Makes me think - what on earth reasoning do some people on the left(namely the now defunct CPGB post-WW2 and trotskyites such as that idiotic 'Militant tendency' flash-in-the-pan from the 80s) have for advocating the view that this corrupt pro-imperialist organisation could ever be transformed into a vehicle for peace and progress, far less socialism?


And this workerist "organic links to the labour movement" was tenuous from the get-go but nowadays, within the context of a post-industrial society, a completely invalid line of argumentation.

Down with pro-imperislist social-democracy!

Sinister Cultural Marxist
22nd September 2014, 21:30
Presumably you can't blame a whole party for a few morons. Not that I disagree with your conclusions though, but you can't determine the essence of a whole party that way.

A.J.
27th September 2014, 13:04
Presumably you can't blame a whole party for a few morons. Not that I disagree with your conclusions though, but you can't determine the essence of a whole party that way.

I guess what I'm saying is that, although the Brit Labour party has been pro-imperialist from time immemorial(that's beyond dispute), such open displays of national-chauvanism is of more recent vintage.

For example, nowadays Labour party canvassing material(e.g. pamphlets, leaflets, posters etc.) seems to be entirely emblazoned with union jacks. I know for a fact this wasn't the case in times past.
This union jack fetishism is a phenomenon that very much first emerged in the latter years of the leadership of that Welsh windbag Neil Kinnock(then more flagrantly under Tony Blair)