Log in

View Full Version : Andy Stapp, 70; Tried to Unionize Military



blake 3:17
18th September 2014, 06:04
From the New York Times:

Andy Stapp, 70; Tried to Unionize Military
By WILLIAM YARDLEYSEPT. 14, 2014

Andy Stapp, who expressed his opposition to the Vietnam War by joining the Army and proceeding to do a very unmilitary thing — form a union among soldiers that demanded, among other things, the right to elect officers and reject what they viewed as illegal orders — died on Sept. 3 in Manhattan. He was 70.

His wife, Deirdre Griswold, said the cause was complications of a lung infection.

At its peak in the early 1970s, the union that Mr. Stapp formed, the American Servicemen’s Union, claimed to have tens of thousands of members. It issued membership cards, published a newspaper and helped form chapters at military bases, on ships and in Vietnam.

Although the Army never came close to recognizing the union formally, it certainly recognized it as a problem. Mr. Stapp brought colorful idealism to his counterintuitive cause, and the Army did what it could to silence him.

In 1967, while stationed at Fort Sill in Lawton, Okla., Mr. Stapp twice faced court-martial. The first time was for refusing an order to open his footlocker, which served as his unit’s library of leftist literature. (Officers broke it open with an ax.) He was convicted and served 45 days of hard labor. The second was based on charges that he had left his barracks when he was forbidden to do so. He was acquitted in late 1967.

The Army discharged him the next spring for engaging in what it called subversive activity. Later, through appeal, his discharge status was changed from dishonorable to honorable. Through it all, Mr. Stapp remained popular in the ranks.

“A remarkable aspect of Stapp’s siege of Fort Sill is that the self-proclaimed Communist has never been lynched by his fellow G.I.s,” Robert Christgau wrote in a 1968 profile of Mr. Stapp in Esquire magazine. “G.I.s are taught to kill Communists. But they like Stapp. When he won his second court-martial, they cheered. You just don’t win courts-martial.”

The Esquire article was briefly banned from the post exchange at Fort Hood, Tex.

Mr. Stapp’s discharge probably helped his cause. Free of military duty and having gained attention from the news media, he had the time and prominence to organize. He also received support from leftist groups, including, early on, Youth Against War and Fascism, of which Ms. Griswold was a member. Ms. Griswold later became the editor of the Workers World newspaper and ran for president in 1980 as the nominee of the Workers World Party, receiving about 13,000 votes.

As his union’s president, Mr. Stapp set up an office in New York and began promoting his cause, sometimes sneaking leaflets and newspapers onto bases for soldiers to distribute.

In 1968, he protested the court-martial of 43 black soldiers at Fort Hood who were accused of refusing to go to Chicago to help quell unrest at the Democratic National Convention that year. In 1969, he helped bring attention to soldiers who faced court-martial for rioting over conditions in the stockade at Fort Dix, N.J.

In 1970, he published his autobiography, “Up Against the Brass.” Reviewing the book in The New York Times, John Leonard wrote: “Mr. Stapp may have the political perceptions and the historical grasp of a kindergarten stormbird — really, all our founding fathers weren’t slave owners and mainland China isn’t exactly lotus-land — but he also has courage. Without his persistence, there would be considerably less civilian concern about Army practices.”


Ms. Griswold, from whom Mr. Stapp had been separated for many years, said she did not think he had expected the Army to recognize the servicemen’s union. But, she added, “I think he believed it would radicalize the people who knew about it.”

Andrew Dean Stapp was born on March 25, 1944, in Philadelphia, to a military nurse who was not married. He spent the first year of his life in an orphanage before being adopted by William and Martha Stapp, an engineer and a homemaker who lived in Merion, Pa., a Philadelphia suburb. He grew up with an older brother, William, who was also adopted.

Mr. Stapp enrolled at Pennsylvania State University in 1963, interested in ancient history and largely apolitical. But his studies of the past sharpened his focus on the present, particularly the developing war in Vietnam.

He began consuming leftist literature and getting arrested at peace rallies. He dropped out of college. While many of his fellow antiwar activists moved to Canada, claimed conscientious-objector status or took other action to avoid serving, Mr. Stapp concluded that he could have the most impact in uniform.

He had burned his draft card in October 1965, which delayed his enlistment. But after convincing his local draft board that his intentions were good, he entered the Army on May 13, 1966.

David Cortright said he was an enlisted soldier opposed to the war when he read the Esquire article about Mr. Stapp in 1968.

“To me, it was like a light going off, like a flash of illumination, that maybe I could do the same,” he said in an interview on Thursday. He organized protests against the war and went on to become a professor of peace studies at the University of Notre Dame.

Besides Ms. Griswold, Mr. Stapp’s survivors include their daughter, Katherine Stapp, and a granddaughter. Complete information on his survivors was not immediately available.

The American Servicemen’s Union faded along with the war in the 1970s. By the early 1980s, Mr. Stapp had found a job teaching history at the Hudson School in Hoboken, N.J. He worked there for more than a quarter-century.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/15/us/andy-stapp-soldier-who-tried-to-unionize-the-military-dies-at-70.html?

Leftsolidarity
18th September 2014, 07:02
Workers World also put out an article on Andy Stapp here: http://www.workers.org/articles/2014/09/08/andy-stapp-thorn-pentagons-side/



Andy Stapp, a thorn in the Pentagon’s side
By Deirdre Griswold on September 8, 2014

Andrew Dean Stapp could have been an archaeologist, a historian or even a stand-up comic. Instead, he chose to focus his broad spectrum of talents on fighting the military brass and ending the Vietnam War.

Andy, as everyone called him, died on Sept. 3 at the age of 70. When only 23 years old, while a private at Fort Sill, Okla., he had gathered together a group of active-duty GIs to form the American Servicemen’s Union. This organization drew up a 10-point program of demands ranging from the right to refuse illegal orders — like the order to fight in Vietnam — to the election of officers by the ranks and an end to racism and sexism. It grew into the most audacious thorn in the Pentagon’s side.

At its height the ASU had enrolled thousands of card-carrying members scattered on bases all over the world, in all branches of the U.S. military. Its newspaper, The Bond, was read in trenches, cockpits and submarines. It was mailed out to many thousands of active-duty military personnel and then passed hand-to-hand to countless thousands more. Some mailroom clerks subscribed their entire units to this unabashedly radical newspaper. Its centerfold was devoted to unflattering descriptions of brutal officers and noncoms who had been nominated by their men to be “Pig of the Month.”

Stapp was court-martialed twice and then discharged from the Army in early 1968 after a field board hearing that declared him “undesirable.” The support he received from the soldiers in his unit was amazing. Many testified in his defense. Their testimony clearly convinced the brass that throwing Stapp in the stockade would probably instigate a rebellion. He also had extremely capable free legal defense provided by Atty. Michael Kennedy of the National Emergency Civil Liberties Committee. A few years later, after winning a civilian court suit, his discharge was changed to “honorable.”

Stapp was a prodigious reader and walking encyclopedia of knowledge, both contemporary and historical, to the end of his life. He educated everyone around him with a running commentary on current events that was factual but delivered with a deadpan, biting wit.

His narrative style can be experienced in his book “Up Against the Brass,” published in 1970 by Simon & Schuster, in which he related the story of the ASU and gave some of his personal history.

After graduating from high school, it was a trip he made with a group of archaeologists to digs in Egypt that first made him aware of the terrible legacy left by colonialism. From childhood he had admired the great civilizations of ancient Rome and Egypt. He saw firsthand how British colonial rule had left the people of Egypt impoverished and ground down.

His first act of rebellion against the Vietnam War was on Oct. 16, 1965, when he burned his draft card, along with a group of fellow students at Penn State. But he soon saw that such symbolic acts were not enough. So the following May, he showed up for induction and joined the Army — with the intention of organizing among the GIs. He succeeded beyond his wildest dreams.

He wrote in “Up Against the Brass”:

“We talked to everyone who would listen. Soon the entire battalion knew our views. Only a handful showed hostility. Often in the barracks, after lights-out, we would kid about the war. Dick Wheaton, a marvelous mimic, could sound exactly like Lyndon Johnson. He would pretend he was LBJ holding a press conference and the guys would ask questions.

“‘Mr. President, why are we in Vietnam?’

“‘Son, to save it from the Communists. Ah want yuh to know that if we have to destroy that country to save it, we will.’

“‘Mr. President, are you going to send additional troops to Vietnam?’

“‘Our commitment is firm, son, firm. Ah’m not gonna hide mah tail between mah legs and run. Ah’m willin’ to fight to the last drop of yore blood to achieve peace.’

“‘Mr. President, what do you think of the GIs at Fort Sill?’

“‘Those Communist GIs are a thohn in mah side.’”

Supported other rebellious GIs

After being discharged from the Army, Stapp made many trips to support soldiers who were fighting the racist, sexist, top-down rule of the military machine. He went to Fort Hood, Texas, to defend the Fort Hood 43 — 43 Black GIs who sat down and refused to be sent to Chicago in 1968 to suppress demonstrations at the Democratic National Convention there. He organized support for a group of soldiers at Fort Dix, N.J., who were being court-martialed for a rebellion in the stockade. One of the GI leaders, Terry Klug, had organized a powerful chapter of the ASU among the imprisoned soldiers.

After the war finally ended, Stapp continued the struggle for justice and equality as a writer for this newspaper, Workers World. Readers tell us that in those days the first thing they looked for each week was his column, which raked the ruling class and its stooges over the coals for their crimes against the workers and oppressed — using his unique and powerful brand of humor.

He joined Workers World Party — the “parent” organization of Youth Against War & Fascism — and spoke at many Party conferences. He had honed his oratorical skills speaking at campuses during the war in order to raise funds for the ASU.

For the last 30 years of his life, he was a history teacher at the Hudson School in Hoboken, N.J., where he inspired new generations to question all the self-serving propaganda that is dished out by the establishment as “education.” He was so beloved by his students that, year after year, he was elected by the graduating class to address their commencement celebration.

A personal note: This writer was among the group from Youth Against War & Fascism who drove from New York City to Oklahoma in July 1967 to attend Andy’s second court-martial.

We didn’t make it to the trial — we were all barred from the base and two of us, Maryann Weissman and Key Martin, were arrested. They had been in Lawton, Okla., for several months sending out press releases and helping the GIs in various ways. They each served six months in federal penitentiaries just for trying to enter the base to attend what the Army claimed was an “open” court-martial. One of our group given a bar order that day was Eddie Oquendo, who later went to prison for resisting the draft.

Once the court-martial was over, those of us not in jail got to meet Andy and other GIs, who regaled us with descriptions of the farce that had just occurred. Andy and I met again in New York when he was on leave and we were married in October 1967. Two years later, after he had been put out of the Army, our daughter, Katherine Stapp, was born. While we haven’t lived together for years, I still have Andy’s ASU membership card from 1971, which lists the 10 demands and the slogan: “To win a Bill of Rights for rank-and-file servicemen and women.”

I also just watched this talk by him the other day which was interesting.
2-lKHmPfQ4o

I never got the opportunity to meet him unfortunately. He seems to have been a very interesting and friendly person.

Hagalaz
21st September 2014, 00:29
Complete idiot.

Decolonize The Left
21st September 2014, 02:14
Complete idiot.

This is a verbal warning for spam. If you're going to post, please contribute meaningfully to the discussion.

Hagalaz
28th September 2014, 03:26
This is a verbal warning for spam. If you're going to post, please contribute meaningfully to the discussion.

My apologies.

A military force cannot be unionized. Survival on the battlefield can't be determined by elections.
War is not a democracy. Perhaps Mr. Stapp should have read some history.

Therefore,he was an idiot.

flaming bolshevik
28th September 2014, 03:45
Rest in peace, whether what he did was " idiotic'' he was successful (from what I understand) despite his surroundings. He deserves the praise he gets.

Creative Destruction
28th September 2014, 03:56
My apologies.

A military force cannot be unionized. Survival on the battlefield can't be determined by elections.
War is not a democracy. Perhaps Mr. Stapp should have read some history.

Therefore,he was an idiot.

you must be fun at parties.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
28th September 2014, 09:51
My apologies.

A military force cannot be unionized. Survival on the battlefield can't be determined by elections.
War is not a democracy. Perhaps Mr. Stapp should have read some history.

Therefore,he was an idiot.

So, do you even consider yourself a socialist? Because if you did you should be aware that our goal is not to ensure "survival on the battlefield", but the splitting of the army and for the proletarian element to turn their guns against their officers.

Lord Testicles
29th September 2014, 18:44
So, do you even consider yourself a socialist? Because if you did you should be aware that our goal is not to ensure "survival on the battlefield", but the splitting of the army and for the proletarian element to turn their guns against their officers.

Considering his comments in this (http://www.revleft.com/vb/lets-talk-privilege-t190580/index3.html)thread (& others) and the fact that his username is the name of a Germanic rune my money is on some kind of white nationalist oxygen thief.

PhoenixAsh
29th September 2014, 19:09
My apologies.

A military force cannot be unionized. Survival on the battlefield can't be determined by elections.
War is not a democracy. Perhaps Mr. Stapp should have read some history.

Therefore,he was an idiot.



Lol. Actually military forces CAN be unionized and while the outcome on the battlefield can not be decided by elections the study of history shows that elected officers do indeed create a basis for succesful leadership.

IF you had known anything about military history you would have known about this.

therefore...you sir...are talking out of your arse and know fuck all about the subject you are speaking on.

But aside from these historic omissions in your knowledge about military history you are also under the assumption that the revolutionary left is somehow concerned with the war the bourgeois wage as an exponent of their stragtegy of divide and conquer of the working class.

On both sides of the bayonet there is a worker fighting for the capitalist elite.

Hagalaz
30th September 2014, 02:03
So, do you even consider yourself a socialist? Because if you did you should be aware that our goal is not to ensure "survival on the battlefield", but the splitting of the army and for the proletarian element to turn their guns against their officers.

So a true socialist soldier would kill their officers?
A question:how would you,as a true,muderous socialist,fight the Jihad?
Or would you fight them at all?
Just trying to be topical.

Hagalaz
30th September 2014, 02:07
Lol. Actually military forces CAN be unionized and while the outcome on the battlefield can not be decided by elections the study of history shows that elected officers do indeed create a basis for succesful leadership.

IF you had known anything about military history you would have known about this.

therefore...you sir...are talking out of your arse and know fuck all about the subject you are speaking on.

But aside from these historic omissions in your knowledge about military history you are also under the assumption that the revolutionary left is somehow concerned with the war the bourgeois wage as an exponent of their stragtegy of divide and conquer of the working class.

On both sides of the bayonet there is a worker fighting for the capitalist elite.

I would say I likely know more about history than you do.
And from your comments you obviously know ..."fuck all" about the military.

Hagalaz
30th September 2014, 02:09
Considering his comments in this (http://www.revleft.com/vb/lets-talk-privilege-t190580/index3.html)thread (& others) and the fact that his username is the name of a Germanic rune my money is on some kind of white nationalist oxygen thief.

Proof that I am a "white nationalist" by my posts? Disagreement with the others means I'm a fascist? Really?
And a germanic(actually Nordic)rune means I'm the enemy's.
Are you saying whites are the enemy? Of whom?

BIXX
30th September 2014, 02:13
So a true socialist soldier would kill their officers?
A question:how would you,as a true,muderous socialist,fight the Jihad?
Or would you fight them at all?
Just trying to be topical.
Lol, fight "the jihad"

Lord Testicles
30th September 2014, 03:00
Proof that I am a "white nationalist" by my posts?

These are the kind of posts that suggest you're a white nationalist of some description:


Are you saying whites are the enemy? Of whom?


Now I'm not saying you are definitely a white nationalist, but if I was a betting man I'd put money on the fact that you are one.


And a germanic(actually Nordic)rune means I'm the enemy's.

Actually, it's proto-Germanic, the Norse rune you are thinking of is a called "Hagall."

No, just the use of a Germanic or Norse runes does not mean you are the "enemy" it just gives further indication of what kind of troll you are.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
30th September 2014, 09:45
So a true socialist soldier would kill their officers?
A question:how would you,as a true,muderous socialist,fight the Jihad?
Or would you fight them at all?
Just trying to be topical.

Ha ha what.

First of all, you didn't answer the question: do you consider yourself a revolutionary socialist?

Second, socialists fight for the splitting of the army, not for individual soldiers to kill their officers.

Third, "the Jihad" isn't some nebulous evil organisation led by a shadowy man with a white Persian cat (see, even the cat is Muslim!), "fighting the Jihad" doesn't actually make sense. In fact the American military isn't fighting Islamism, they're helping it spread.

Fourth, the main enemy is at home. Socialists aim to overthrow the bourgeoisie at home - whether they're in the US or in Iran.

Rugged Collectivist
30th September 2014, 13:37
I would say I likely know more about history than you do.
And from your comments you obviously know ..."fuck all" about the military.
Can you go ahead and address what he said, Instead of just claiming that you know more than him?

PhoenixAsh
30th September 2014, 15:57
I would say I likely know more about history than you do.
And from your comments you obviously know ..."fuck all" about the military.

Really? I had no idea. I am sure the French revolutionary army is devastated by your assessment. To name but one example.