Why the Venezuelan Revolution is not following the basic theories of Marx and Lenin?

[sixdollarchampagne]

In a society where the bourgeoisie, the class of owners and exploiters, rules, "revolution" would mean that working people overthrow bourgeois rule and create a workers' state. That *never* happened in Venezuela, despite years of favorable conditions, like Chávez' presidency of approximately a decade and a half. There was never a revolution in Venezuela, so bourgeois rule remains, and Venezuela is what it was before Chávez, a bourgeois republic with a market economy.

IMHO, all the talk about revolution as a "process" is just a misleading distraction; either working people smash bourgeois rule and put an end to the bourgeois republic, *or* the bloodsucking exploiters continue to run everything, which is a brief description of chavista Venezuela now. All those years of tireless Chávez-worship didn't really change very much, it turns out.

[Diirez]

I'm not an expert on Venezuela or on the Bolivarian revolution, but from the quick articles I've read on it, it seems like the 'revolution' didn't set up a new economical system. It really just put in a man who created favorable conditions for the poor. Which is great, but there was no end to private property and no overthrow of the bourgeois entirely.

Chavez made conditions very good for the lower class in Venezuela, but unfortunately that's where it ends. He didn't set up a government and economical system in which that could be passed on to further progress his society. It was really just a Chavez only thing. Kind of how Lenin died and the Soviet Union went to hell. Well Chavez died and now Venezuela is 'going to hell.' Although there really wasn't a dramatic increase in conditions. The bourgeois were still oppressing, just not whenever they wanted.

[tuwix]

Thanks and I would like you all to comment on the venezuelan revolutionary experiment. Is it heading toward socialism or not?





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No. Venezuelan politics are in fear about US intervention. Besides new oligarchy is seating very well on highly paid positions in government and certainly isn't interested in elimination their own positions.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

There wasn't any 'revolution' but rather a swing towards social democratic, anti-imperialism centred around the charisma of one petite-bourgeois figure and the party he headed within a capitalist parliament. Chavez helped bring huge amounts of Venezuelans out of poverty but unless the working class itself is organising to overthrow capitalism then there is no real movement for socialism. One thing is clear, however, and that is that the process and the rhetoric has opened up a lot of fertile ground for potential working class movements in the future.