Oh Zizek

[DOOM]

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Im dying right now in this very moment

[The Feral Underclass]

That is a fairly impressive impression of Zizek.

[Lord Testicles]

Nothing can top the real thing.

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[DOOM]

this guy's pure comedy

[GiantMonkeyMan]

Nothing beats:

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[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

Never understood the appeal. He's just like someone's slightly crazy, slightly vulgar Slovenian uncle who happens to have read a metric shit-tonne of crit-theory.

[Rafiq]

Never understood the appeal. He's just like someone's slightly crazy, slightly vulgar Slovenian uncle who happens to have read a metric shit-tonne of crit-theory.

Behold, ignorance at its purest. I'm sure the spart theoreticians are much more sophisticated with their deformed workers state drivel and bankrupt garbage phraseology.

[DOOM]

Never understood the appeal. He's just like someone's slightly crazy, slightly vulgar Slovenian uncle who happens to have read a metric shit-tonne of crit-theory.

Exactly

[The Feral Underclass]

Behold, ignorance at its purest. I'm sure the spart theoreticians are much more sophisticated with their deformed workers state drivel and bankrupt garbage phraseology.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5996064256/h4DD1650D/

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

I don't think Father Rafiq has ever read a Spartacist theoretician, to be honest. Why would he, they tend to be clear and you can't use them to support your capitulation to Die Linke and SYRIZA.

[The Feral Underclass]

I hate Trotskyists.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

I hate Trotskyists.

Just like any Trotskyist. Get your own schtick, anarchist.

[The Feral Underclass]

I ain't no anarchist


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[Zoroaster]

Well this went to shit quickly. Ultra-Leftism for the win, I guess.

[Rafiq]

I don't think Father Rafiq has ever read a Spartacist theoretician, to be honest. Why would he, they tend to be clear and you can't use them to support your capitulation to Die Linke and SYRIZA.

It would appear that the magnitude of how "clear" you are represents the extent of your petty bourgeois ideological tendencies. What we need is a new Communism and proletarian politics, in a world of confused ideological degenerates, in a world where the hegemony of bourgeois liberalism is constantly waning only to make way for something much worse I think the last fucking thing we need are "clear" theoreticians. Zizek is the philosopher of the 21st century, he is today's Hegel. What are the Spart theoreticians? Worthless fuckers only capable of finding new and creative means to re-gurgitate the same nonsense that was bullshit even when it was first devised four decades ago? Their application of "Marxist theory" on current events is stunningly pathetic and obscene even.

Though I'm sure 870 is comfortable with his Spart cult knowing full well they will never present themselves as a vehicle for Communism and class struggle. All the nasty destruction and the stormy implications of revolution can be evaded if one puts all his faith in an organization that is explicitly incapable of it.

[Rafiq]

It's very clear that they defend the North Korean deformed Worker's state (officially the Democratic Deformed Worker's People's Republic state of Korea, or DDWPRK). According to the deformed worker's state theory come the revolution countries like North Korea will be the first recipients of Communism as the "foundations" of the worker's state are already there. Good, good.

For someone accusing Zizek of being "obscure" and not clear, I don't know whether to laugh at you or sulk in disappointment of your existence.

[The Intransigent Faction]

That was actually a valid point about the cat. :lol:

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

I ain't no anarchist


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That's just what an anarchist would say


Also, I'm really loving all of these Žižek parodies. It's like junk food for my brains. Nomnomnom.

[Art Vandelay]

According to the deformed worker's state theory come the revolution countries like North Korea will be the first recipients of Communism as the "foundations" of the worker's state are already there. Good, good.

Yeah....that's not accurate at all....

[Thirsty Crow]

That's it folks, Slavoj's the second coming of the World Spirit, the new prophet (and maybe a reincarnation of Georg himself) :lol:

And to think of the contradictions locked in eternal struggle as exhibited here - sparts vs. THE philosopher of the 21st century. It makes me die a little from within.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

That's it folks, Slavoj's the second coming of the World Spirit, the new prophet (and maybe a reincarnation of Georg himself) :lol:

And to think of the contradictions locked in eternal struggle as exhibited here - sparts vs. THE philosopher of the 21st century. It makes me die a little from within.

To be honest, when I return to Zagreb and start bugging people about joining the ICL again, I'll just log out from RevLeft and show them the posts of one Rafiq, lately the best disciple Žižek doesn't know he has.

[motion denied]

Žižek

Ž is a such a badass letter.

[Rafiq]

That's it folks, Slavoj's the second coming of the World Spirit, the new prophet (and maybe a reincarnation of Georg himself) :lol:

And to think of the contradictions locked in eternal struggle as exhibited here - sparts vs. THE philosopher of the 21st century. It makes me die a little from within.

Links you're so full of shit. Honestly I'm starting to doubt your worth as a poster lately. Don't be a fucking moron, if a spart criticizes Zizek then that "struggle" is made just as it would if he were a Maoist. Nobody talked about "eternal struggles". It is relative to the discussion and 870's particular attack.

I can't even articulate how stupid you'd have to be to spout the drivel you do. It's painfully wrong, it's almost cringeworthy. For someone so keen on being against philosophy because it's "obscure mysticism" or whatever you sure know how to obfuscate rather simple things in the most precisely dishonest and idiotic way possible.

What kind of fucking moron thinks Hegel himself was a "world-spirit"? Links claims I know nothing about Hegel, yet he doesn't even know what the fuck the world spirit even is. It just sounds wacky to him, so apparently it's whatever the fuck he wants it to be.

Zizek is our Hegel because he is the only legitimate application of Hegel's ideas in the 21st century. That's why. Want to know a secret? Links is a good troll. His "laughing" actually pisses me the fuck off. It boils my blood. I despise laughter out of ignorance. Even in personal circumstances: People who laugh, so confident in something, in an idea that's worthless, so confident they understand something they don't, they laugh. It's like your head is actually up your ass. You don't know just how limited your understanding of the world is. It's like when he "laughed" when I talked about the spirit of Communism or Christian logic. For fuck's sake, it's pathetic. The idea of new ideas to Links is preposterous. Maybe that's why he has the brain of a 12 year old boy.

[Rafiq]

Maybe it's just that I despise internet culture. "Lolz u wud be laughed at on 4chan or wherever the fuck lulz". Yeah, the common sense, the "legitimate" logic prevalent on the internetz should constitute the basis for a Communist's views. Excuse me while I go vomit.

[The Feral Underclass]

I have some 10mg diazepam tablets, Raf. Would you like one?

[Rafiq]

I have some 10mg diazepam tablets, Raf. Would you like one?

I could really use it honestly. Currently (SWIM, or whatever the fuck) is getting some xanax soon.

[The Feral Underclass]

We all need to take a diazepam and just chill out. It's what Zizek would want.

(Also, vicadin ftw).

[Thirsty Crow]

I just wanna preface this entirely chit-chat of a post by saying I've never had the chance to talk to so self-important a person on here, in all 5 (wow makes me think and think hard) years I've been around here.


Links you're so full of shit. Honestly I'm starting to doubt your worth as a poster lately. Don't be a fucking moron, if a spart criticizes Zizek then that "struggle" is made just as it would if he were a Maoist. Nobody talked about "eternal struggles". It is relative to the discussion and 870's particular attack. You know what and really honestly - I am full of shit. I didn't take a dump today, and probably will like 2 mins from posting this entirely useless post. But on the other hand I revel in uselessness.


I can't even articulate how stupid you'd have to be to spout the drivel you do. It's painfully wrong, it's almost cringeworthy. For someone so keen on being against philosophy because it's "obscure mysticism" or whatever you sure know how to obfuscate rather simple things in the most precisely dishonest and idiotic way possible.From now onj it's my sworn mission to actually make you and like minded personae cringe. Not only that, I wish you'd develop ticks.


What kind of fucking moron thinks Hegel himself was a "world-spirit"? Links claims I know nothing about Hegel, yet he doesn't even know what the fuck the world spirit even is. It just sounds wacky to him, so apparently it's whatever the fuck he wants it to be. Obviously, Hegel was the World Spirit's accomplice since the former came to its own realization, its self-realization, only and exclusively through the philosophy of the former. It's like an indictment of being an accomplice in murder, but this one is much more grave and serious.


Zizek is our Hegel because he is the only legitimate application of Hegel's ideas in the 21st century. That's why. You got a problem since you seemed to claim that Marxism is Hegelian; I'd think contemporary Marxism - but not that of the dirty rabble like 870's - is the only legitimate application of Hegel.

But who the fuck knows when things are and are not themselves at the same time.


Want to know a secret?Yes it'll make my bowel movement much quicker.


Links is a good troll. I'm offended by this. I am gravely shocked with this almost a cringeworthy a statement revealing a profound ingorance.

I'm the troll, the master troll, none surpasses me - not when I actually try.


His "laughing" actually pisses me the fuck off.Just so you know I actually burst out laughing at seemingly random points while writing this; and it ain't your usual laughing it's

http://images.moviefanatic.com/iu/t_full/v1364990936/dr-evil.jpg




It boils my blood.No good if it doesn't transsubstantiate into the Ideal lifeblood of the Spirit.

But you know what, I've got a formula for precisely this. Not gonna give it to you though. Unless you ask real nicely and dance around wearing your underwear on your head and repeating "I bow to the World Spirit". Yes, out loud.


I despise laughter out of ignorance. Ignorance is the end point of knowledge; the Fool is the Actual Divine.


Even in personal circumstances: People who laugh, so confident in something, in an idea that's worthless, so confident they understand something they don't, they laugh. To be honest, I don't actually know why I laugh; it comes and goes like the cold. Maybe you could help me out with understansding this weird phenomenon?


It's like your head is actually up your ass.Oh but it is, since the OUROBOROS is the animistic, pictural representation of the I-Am. Not literally but from what I heard from secred dialectical adepts, physically sticking your head up your ass is the first stage to pansophia. I think you're not so far from it, in all honesty.


You don't know just how limited your understanding of the world is. It's like when he "laughed" when I talked about the spirit of Communism or Christian logic. For fuck's sake, it's pathetic. The idea of new ideas to Links is preposterous. Maybe that's why he has the brain of a 12 year old boy.
And so we come to an end of this deliberate and contentless chopping up of Rafiq's post just for the sake of chopping it up (and letting my debilitating, near cringeworthy logic shine through in all its deficiency).

Now as for the charitable, empathic, nay divine-like and Wholesome response: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

(and thus the cycle is complete and my bowels are ready to materialize their inner contradiction)

P.S. you fools you just chill down since you know it ain't the way up to the Divine.

[Rafiq]

You got a problem since you seemed to claim that Marxism is Hegelian; I'd think contemporary Marxism - but not that of the dirty rabble like 870's - is the only legitimate application of Hegel.


I don't know what the fuck "contemporary" marxism is supposed to mean. Yes Leninism is degenerate. Although Marxism is hegelian, Zizek is returning to the basics. This strengthens not only a revival of Hegel, but a greater understanding of Marxism today.

[Thirsty Crow]

I don't know what the fuck "contemporary" marxism is supposed to mean. Yes Leninism is degenerate. Although Marxism is hegelian, Zizek is returning to the basics. This strengthens not only a revival of Hegel, but a greater understanding of Marxism today.

Contemporary means being co-temporaneous with Itself, so that's the Essence travelling forwards in time, like Spock did but backwards in the latest Star Trek movies; he remained the same essence.

Also that damn dude that played Sherlock was damn fucking great as Khan, though fuck the "ooooh temporal fuck up" storyline (though I gotta admit I'm entirely subjective - as the Spirit that is subjective is - when saying this cause I loooove Star Trek Enterprise with its temporal cold war)

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

So, having against my better judgment actually clicked to view Rafiq's, er, contributions to this thread, to put it politely, why is his unique sort of flaming and general incoherence allowed to stand? Because some of the admins are themselves part of the Lihite sect? It is becoming increasingly apparent that on RevLeft, the right sect connections can get you anything.

No wonder he likes Žižek, though. Both use obfuscatory, idealist, religious language and rhetoric about violence and terror and rivers of blood to hide their social-democratic politics - which becomes apparent the moment they talk about real-world politics, and start shilling for Tsipras or Die Linke.

Sorry, fans, Žižek is not an original philosopher, and even as a commentator on other people's work he is extremely dubious (two things stand out in my mind: linking Malebranche to the Matrix, and an extremely bizarre attempt to provide a 'Lacanian' commentary on quantum mechanics, which showed old Slavoj should have been failed in high school physics). He became popular as a populariser of people like Lacan and so on - nowadays he seems to have taken a hint from NSK and pretty much acts as a shock-jock. Of course, NSK parodied Stalinism, Žižek is the social-democratic abortion of Stalinism parodying itself.

[Kill all the fetuses!]

I remember back in the day my philosophy professor told me that Zizek presumably said himself that he talks about these sort of weird things, because people seem to like, but he doesn't take any of that seriously. The only thing he takes seriously was work on some particular philosopher, which I can't recall.

I didn't ask for a reference, so I don't know how much truth there is into this. Anybody knows of any interview where he said something like this?

[Zukunftsmusik]

Ugh. Rafiq, can you please stop with these petty, self-important grandiose rants against single members? It was funny that one time with Ismail, now not so much. You need to handle people disagreeing with you better. Frankly.

[Rafiq]

So, having against my better judgment actually clicked to view Rafiq's, er, contributions to this thread, to put it politely, why is his unique sort of flaming and general incoherence allowed to stand? Because some of the admins are themselves part of the Lihite sect? It is becoming increasingly apparent that on RevLeft, the right sect connections can get you anything.

It's a conspiracy of course.


No wonder he likes Žižek, though. Both use obfuscatory language


http://www.icl-fi.org/english/wv/938/korea.html


A strategic goal of U.S. imperialism is the restoration of capitalism in China, the largest of the remaining deformed workers states







Workers Vanguard No. 938
5 June 2009




A philosopher's philisophical worth is defined by where he gives his political support. For example, if Zizek were to give support for the ICL instead of Syriza, this would not be a problem for 870 the role playing "Marxist". But Zizek exists outside of the curriculum for his cult, he is therefore unacceptable. I'd rather pledge support for Syriza and "social democratic politics" (frankly if you've ever bothered to read Zizek, he outwardly claims social democratic politics are impossible today. His support for Syriza, to him, stems from something else, namely their inability to compromise with austerity policies, despite the 'social democratic' political climate which makes compromise a standard) than an organization just a few etiquettes shy of being the People's Temple.

Honest question, do you think your organization is going to actually lead a future revolution? Do you actually envision this? NO! The ICL-LKJFSL will lead it, not the ICL-ASDFJ!


Ugh. Rafiq, can you please stop with these petty, self-important grandiose rants.


There's nothing "self important" about my rants. There was barely a paragraph outlining my disgust with how Links conducts himself in arguments. That's it. Want to know why you're saying they're self important? Because that's the terminology Links used. I don't care about people who disagree with me. I care about shameless straw men, blatant disrespect and ignorance. Plenty of people disagree with me and only a few really piss me off. Frankly, you're making it seem like I'm flip flopping between different people randomly. As if MEGAMAN wasn't Five Year Plan's obnoxious mini-me. As if Links wasn't engaged in those conversations, too. It's really just the Trot bloc who have swarmed in defense of the deformed Internet clique because of how I demonstrated that Trotskyism is a petite bourgeois ideology and an eternal protest movement. Rather than any kind of honest disagreement, they're going with their sectarian nature and disagreeing with people because they don't follow the "party" line.

Take for instance the Muslim community: It doesn't matter how religious they are, or how much they care about Islam. When you offend Islam, or Mohommad, they will take this not necessarily an attack on their beliefs honestly, but an attack on their community and their identity. Except the former, formed out of specific historical circumstances with a social context while (today's) Trotskyism has no social context and formed out of someone's ass. They are a parody of Bolshevism, if that word has any real meaning today. The reason Trotskyists, unlike other Leninists have never taken power is because they are a protest movement with no affirmative qualities as a pseudo-ideology (ideologically, most of them are Liberals. Trotskyism can never constitute its own ideology, it works parasitically with others).

[Rafiq]

I don't care about what you have to say about my style, there are real points I present. Always. They're always met with trolling from people like 870. 870 took me "seriously", lost many arguments and now resorts to trolling. Don't troll when you lost. Don't try to have a serious discussion, and when you find yourself unable to address important points, resort to trolling.

Also the idea that Zizek is like a Revleft user with a distinct "tendency" which being a "social democrat". Zizek isn't a politician or even an active revolutionary. He's a philosopher and an intellectual. Althusser had some stupid sympathies with China, was a (critical) member of the French Communist Party but the logical conclusion of his works isn't "Marxism Leninism".