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khad
15th August 2014, 14:18
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/14/uk-iraq-security-anbar-exclusive-idUKKBN0GE16J20140814


(Reuters) - The governor of Iraq's Anbar province in the Sunni heartland said he has asked for and secured U.S. support in the battle against Islamic State militants because opponents of the group may not have the stamina for a long fight.

Ahmed Khalaf al-Dulaimi told Reuters that his request, made during meetings with U.S. diplomats and a senior military officer, included air support for battling the militants who have a tight grip on large parts of Anbar and the north.

Dulaimi said the Americans had promised to help.

"Our first goal is the air support. Their technology capability will offer a lot of intelligence information and monitoring of the desert and many things which we are in need of," he said in a telephone interview.

“No date was decided but it will be very soon and there will be a presence for the Americans in the western area," he said.

"I held several meetings since one month ago with the American Embassy and the commander of the central troops all in this regard, and very soon there will be a joint coordination centre and operations in Anbar. They gave a promise," he said.

This is a significant, because so far the US has only rationalized "defensive" operations in support of peoples facing genocide. This announcement of operations in Anbar means that the US for the first time is going on the offensive with the intent of defeating IS.

2 things to note going forward:

1) The Islamic State's prestige and credibility in the Jihadi world, if it wasn't already, is going to reach stratospheric heights. Expect all regional rivals to declare their support for or be absorbed by the Islamic State.

2) It will become apparent that the US Empire cannot maintain its control over Iraq without a permanent military occupation.

Lenina Rosenweg
15th August 2014, 15:31
Gary Brecher, while emphasizing the bloodthirstieness and viscousness of IS, seem to discount its overall threat to the wider region.

http://pando.com/2014/06/16/the-war-nerd-heres-everything-you-need-to-know-about-too-extreme-for-al-qaeda-i-s-i-s/

Brecher's article is overly breezy and maybe even borderline racist.

Patrick Cockburn and Glen Ford think IS may become a major threat to US interests in the region.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n16/patrick-cockburn/isis-consolidates

Good article on BAR

http://blackagendareport.com/content/superpower-and-caliphate

I do not know enough about this but I suspect Glen Ford is closer to the truth. IS is more than just a "realistic partition of Iraq" as Brecher implies.

Lenina Rosenweg
15th August 2014, 15:52
"Caliph" Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (a boiler plate sounding name) has been making bombastic statements about reconquering Spain or taking Rome but as far as I know he hasn't said anything about Gaza or the Palestine/Israel conflict. Is he holding out for some kind of tacit understanding with Israel?

Trap Queen Voxxy
15th August 2014, 16:18
Idk, for some reason this has the same feeling as Srebrenica. There were UN Dutch troops and American troops and the whole world just sat there and watched 8,000 Muslims be murdered. I should get a newspaper.

Sasha
15th August 2014, 16:40
"Caliph" Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (a boiler plate sounding name) has been making bombastic statements about reconquering Spain or taking Rome but as far as I know he hasn't said anything about Gaza or the Palestine/Israel conflict. Is he holding out for some kind of tacit understanding with Israel?

i think its higly unlikely IS wil be able to sustain their "state" for very long, with Maliki now stepping down it will go just as the last time, as soon as the shiites manage to pacify the ex-baathists and non-jihadi Suni's with a representation in government and even the lightest recognition of their grieviances the sunni millitia's will turn on the international jihadi extremists and kick them back to syria with US air support after which a federalised iraqi-kurdistan with their own army will stand as an buffer against new incursions.
Chopping hands and crucifictions has never been a stable basis for governance.

even Assad sees the writing on the wall, hence why his army at last started seriously bombarding and shelling of IS positions, before it was in his intrests to make his opposition as extremist as possible, the last thing he wants now is them en-mass returning with all their fancy conquerd equipment.
I fully expect the hezbollah millitia's in syria to be deployed against IS now, with the blessings of both Iran and Iraq.

brigadista
15th August 2014, 18:29
Idk, for some reason this has the same feeling as Srebrenica. There were UN Dutch troops and American troops and the whole world just sat there and watched 8,000 Muslims be murdered. I should get a newspaper.

Looking at recent coverage in the MSM don't think a newspaper will help....

Trap Queen Voxxy
15th August 2014, 19:39
looking at recent coverage in the msm don't think a newspaper will help....

msm?

brigadista
15th August 2014, 20:53
Main Stream Media

Trap Queen Voxxy
15th August 2014, 22:20
Main Stream Media

Oh, well, even still, you'd be surprised how much you miss when all you have is an iPhone. Why I said that. I feel very out of the loop.