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Five Year Plan
12th August 2014, 00:07
Oscar winner and comedian Robin Williams died this morning at 63. While his publicist wouldn’t confirm that it was a suicide, they did issue this statement. "Robin Williams passed away this morning. He has been battling severe depression of late. This is a tragic and sudden loss. The family respectfully asks for their privacy as they grieve during this very difficult time."

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/08/11/robin-williams-dead-at-63/

So sad.

DannyMorin
12th August 2014, 00:16
Gooooood mourning Vietnam!

Brandon's Impotent Rage
12th August 2014, 00:27
We've lost a real comedic talent. He wasn't just a great actor, he was also a fantastic stand-up comic.

He'll me missed. Terribly missed.

Hit The North
12th August 2014, 00:33
Weirdly the BBC tonight aired the Family Guy episode where Peter is given the power to transform anyone he touches into Robin Williams. This was before the news of his death had broken.

DannyMorin
12th August 2014, 00:38
Let's not forget that he was a supporter of imperialist troops while they were waging war on Iraq and Afghanistan:


KABUL, Afghanistan, Dec. 21, 2007 – More than 600 military men and women stood for hours in the cold yesterday for a live USO show highlighted by Kid Rock and Robin Williams at Camp Phoenix here.

defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=48497


This was William’s fourth tour in the area of operations. Among all the top celebrities paraded in the American media today, it’s difficult to find anyone who has committed more energy and time to the troops than the man known as Mrs. Doubtfire.

wnd.com/2007/12/45223/

Five Year Plan
12th August 2014, 00:39
Let's not forget that he was a supporter of imperialist troops while they were waging war on Iraq and Afghanistan

So are many of my family members. When they die, do you think I'm going to hop on my political soapbox?

Fourth Internationalist
12th August 2014, 00:42
Let's not forget that he was a supporter of imperialist troops while they were waging war on Iraq and Afghanistan:



defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=48497



wnd.com/2007/12/45223/

So are millions of other Americans. It doesn't mean his death isn't tragic nor worth mourning. He was a comedian and actor who was raised like most other people in capitalist countries to support the state's troops. Just a regular guy, but famous for good things and whose death is tragic.

DannyMorin
12th August 2014, 00:43
So are many of my family members. When they die, do you think I'm going to hop on my political soapbox?

Robin Williams is not related to you, as far as I know.

What if your family were Iraqis killed by invading American grunts? It's important to remember that they are the victims here, not the poor little soldiers who chose to sign up and chose to fight.

I'm sick of hearing about how the troops have it hard and need support. My sympathy is reserved for the people they're killing. What did Robin Williams ever do for the Iraqis and Afghans?

DannyMorin
12th August 2014, 00:44
He was a comedian and actor who was raised like most other people in capitalist countries to support the state's troops.

So were most members of this forum. If we can see through that horseshit then I don't see why we should be making excuses for other people.

Five Year Plan
12th August 2014, 00:44
I'm sick of hearing about how the troops have it hard and need support. My sympathy is reserved for the people they're killing. What did Robin Williams ever do for the Iraqis and Afghans?

I think there's a thread about how the troops don't need support. Why don't you post over there, and leave this thread to people who want to credit a man who, despite his flaws, made millions of people's lives just a little bit better by making them laugh? What you're doing here is sort of tasteless, even by revolutionary standards.

Do you also boycott the music of people with politics you don't agree with? You sound like a really fun person!

DannyMorin
12th August 2014, 00:45
I think there's a thread about how the troops don't need support. Why don't you post over there, and leave this thread to people who want to credit a man who, despite his flaws, made millions of people's lives just a little bit better? What you're doing here is sort of tasteless, even by revolutionary standards.

People should know what kind of person they're mourning before they post here. That's all.

Art Vandelay
12th August 2014, 00:50
Hmmm, as someone who battles with such thoughts, I am always sad to hear others get to that point and choose that course of action, makes me a bit sad as no one deserves that end, or to feel that low. RIP.

As far as his work as a comedian goes, he was generally a unfunny hack (as far as I'm concerned), who stole material, sorry to say.

e: jumaji I remember liking as a kid though, and he was boss in that Matt Damon/Ben Affleck flick.

Fourth Internationalist
12th August 2014, 00:54
So were most members of this forum. If we can see through that horseshit then I don't see why we should be making excuses for other people. Ignorance is no excuse.

"If a tiny segment of the world population can happen to have the life circumstances to lead them to become communists, why shouldn't everyone else have gone through the same circumstances as well!?"

I am not saying it's right to support the troops, I'm just saying I can understand why a person raised in the United States would support America's troops. It is not very relevant when talking about his death, given he was just a celebrity who had little effect on American foreign policy.

DannyMorin
12th August 2014, 01:01
"If a tiny segment of the world population can happen to have the life circumstances to lead them to become communists, why shouldn't everyone else have gone through the same circumstances as well!?"

I am not saying it's right to support the troops, I'm just saying I can understand why a person raised in the United States would support America's troops. It is not very relevant when talking about his death, given he was just a celebrity who had little effect on American foreign policy.

A person's politics is a window into their morality.

I never mentioned "life circumstances", there's nothing that needs to happen to someone as a prerequisite to them understanding that American soldiers are a state sponsored murder gang, fighting for nothing other than reactionary politics and/or money. They are directly responsible for every dead civilian in the wars and there is no excuse for joining the military or supporting it under those conditions.

Non-Aligned
12th August 2014, 01:04
I always find holier than thou soapboxers to be especially funny. There's always going to be some wet blanket like we saw here during the World Cup.

Five Year Plan
12th August 2014, 01:07
No more feeding this Danny troll, folks. It's sad enough that one of the first things he did when hearing about Williams' death was to hop onto google to look for some kind of incriminating information about him. To allow an obvious instigator to run roughshod here will just make matters even more depressing.

DannyMorin
12th August 2014, 01:12
I always find holier than thou soapboxers to be especially funny. There's always going to be some wet blanket like we saw here during the World Cup.

How exactly is it holier-than-thou to not support marauding imperialist killers?

How would this forum react to somebody who entertained Hitler's armies? As easy as it is to condemn that, we should be able to condemn this. Or are some people still blinded by patriotism? Think that supporting America's killers isn't as bad? Or think that uniformed American murderers aren't as responsible as uniformed murderers in Hitler's armies? They're just after college money, right? And murder is an acceptable way to get it?

Anarchisteve
12th August 2014, 01:28
I'd give it up, if I were you. They're fans of Robin Williams, therefore his actions were harmless.

Just show your respects to the massively privileged multimillionaire and move along.

Five Year Plan
12th August 2014, 01:32
As a side note, Robin Williams was paired as roommates with Christopher Reeve at Juilliard when they studied there in the early 1970s. Reeve, as we might remember, had a horseback riding accident in the early 1990s and spent his remaining years paralyzed and on a respirator, passing away in 2004 at the age of 52. They were both quite talented, and it's a shame they met the ends that they did when there are some really pathetic assholes in this world who lived far longer and had better closure toward the end.

Deep Sea
12th August 2014, 01:45
Gooooood mourning Vietnam!

Hollywood can't make a film portraying the reality of the American slaughter in Vietnam, and this movie is no different.

I'm still waiting for the day someone decides to remake Gustav Hasford's "The Short-Timers" in a way true to the book. Full Metal Jacket is probably the worst example of how Hollywood can take an amazing novel and turn it into shit.

Creative Destruction
12th August 2014, 01:50
This really sucks, especially since we lost him to depression. I remember getting stoned and watching his HBO specials. And all those children and family movies he did in the 90s were made when I was growing up, so I've got fond memories all around. Even his dramas were really good.

Just really really terrible. Depression fucking sucks.

Deep Sea
12th August 2014, 01:54
This really sucks, especially since we lost him to depression.

Who is this "we" you are referring to?

Slavic
12th August 2014, 03:26
How exactly is it holier-than-thou to not support marauding imperialist killers?

So how is that Made in China T-shirt your wearing feeling? I hear the tiny fingers of children being forced to work by their imperialist master produce the finest fabrics.

Trap Queen Voxxy
12th August 2014, 04:19
I was just about to post the huffington post article. This literally made me cry. He was such an inspiration to me as a person. I looked up to his battles with alcohol and depression. Just, I can't believe it.

Trap Queen Voxxy
12th August 2014, 04:27
People should know what kind of person they're mourning before they post here. That's all.

Dude, stfu, Robin Williams did a lot for drawing awareness to bipolar disorder and depression. His death, is yet another sad casualty of the disease we both share. He fucking killed himself. Do you know what it's like to love life but it hurts to much to live? If not then shut up. He was genuinely a nice and caring person. It's bullshit you would take his death as opportunity to harp on about some shit. Do it with other celebrity jag offs but not him.

Red Son
12th August 2014, 09:27
Loved his humour and (most) of his movies, never funnier than when he was riffing in interviews and being, well, Robin Williamsy. Cue lots of bad impressions with lots of na noo na noos in tribute :)

DannyMorin - OK, we're all idiots for being sad about the death of an evil imperialist stooge, well done.

Ele'ill
12th August 2014, 18:37
gonna watch Jumangi

Lord Testicles
12th August 2014, 18:43
It's sad whenever anyone decides to commit suicide but Robin Williams was not funny.

Ele'ill
12th August 2014, 18:47
A person's politics is a window into their morality.

I don't think I'd be down with 100% of the things any single person has said and done in their life. That is unrealistic. This includes other 'radicals'. I wouldn't expect someone to believe in me with that kind of ecclesiastical loyalty the thought makes me very uncomfortable. I am able to look at other people's lives and identify similarities with bad things they've done, their regrets, their battles with addiction and mental health, without feeling like some political identity of mine will be brought shattering to the ground like a glass castle.

Non-Aligned
12th August 2014, 22:05
A person's politics is a window into their morality.

Can you clarify this statement a bit more?

Rosa Partizan
12th August 2014, 22:49
actually I decided not to post here on this board anymore, but the amount of douchebaggery in this thread is too high to not give a fuck. So you're standing there on your moralist pedastal and badmouthing about someone who had his flaws coming from an inherently fucked up system everyone grew up with. This outweighs all the support he gave to marginalized people and all the struggles with himself he had to go through. So glad we have perfect people here that come to revleft to enlighten our restricted and onesided views. Tell me more about your flawless lifestyle as you're using a computer that came into being by exploitation of the poorest of the poor.

Ele'ill
15th August 2014, 20:14
I wonder what the psychological or other implications of this element of our society actually is, and if it is simply that, and if it is healthy, unhealthy, or benign. Hope that sentence makes sense. We have these people 'in our lives' that we grow up with knowing on screen or musically or through interviews or in pictures or all of the above. We can relate to them because they are in the spot light and if we too suffer from the same afflictions as them then we can relate on another level to them. They are a constant in our lives, they are like lighthouses marking specific periods of time, chapters and such, in our own lives. What else is a constant in our lives in that same way? What is this exactly? It feels a lot like I took it for granted that these types of people are there at all but I also feel like maybe that is unhealthy. I appreciate and can relate to their seemingly manic level of energy and their battles with alcohol and depression. I had followed them on and off because of these things. It isn't that I don't mourn for friends who have died or been through very rough times it isn't that these types of folks are elevated above that its that they're different, they are people but represent more. To quote the dark tower 'the world has moved on' and I don't exactly like it, it erases an aversion to death though in a way, and I don't know if that is good or bad or neutral.

This is the song I've been looping and relaxing to and as I have come out of a near fatal patch I hear about a constant, a given, succumbing to it. It makes things magical, mysterious, and fatalistic. This is his song I guess. I kind of imagine a place like a plane of tangible memory where you can go and there's a grave marker and a photo and ambient sounds, or a looped track or part of one. Maybe I'm not that far from the void yet.

http://www.welovemoviesmorethanyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/robin-williams.jpg

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RedHal
15th August 2014, 23:47
not a fan of his type of comedy so his death really doesn't move me in any way. What I can't stand, is the unavoidable media coverage of his death with headlines like "the world mourns Robin Williams death..." Western media, as usual, considers the western world as the entire universe. The majority of the world's populace probably haven't heard of him before.

OvenVilson
17th August 2014, 07:19
The are certain people who , when they pass away, you feel the world around you instantly change.Even if you never knew them. This was one of those people.

R.I.P Robin Williams

LuĂ­s Henrique
18th August 2014, 17:33
actually I decided not to post here on this board anymore, but the amount of douchebaggery in this thread is too high to not give a fuck. So you're standing there on your moralist pedastal and badmouthing about someone who had his flaws coming from an inherently fucked up system everyone grew up with. This outweighs all the support he gave to marginalized people and all the struggles with himself he had to go through. So glad we have perfect people here that come to revleft to enlighten our restricted and onesided views. Tell me more about your flawless lifestyle as you're using a computer that came into being by exploitation of the poorest of the poor.

Glad to see you back, I was afraid you were the most recent victim of RevLeft Sexism [TM].

Ele'ill
18th August 2014, 19:47
lol



I think he held himself back with his humor and energy despite appearing not to.