Left-wing market anarchism?

[Red_Morg98]

After reading through some of the wikipedia page, i'm still uncertain what it is. How does it differ from anarcho-capitalism? Would there be private companies? How would this differ from socialism and communism? Sorry if it's a stupid question, I just really can't get my head around it.

[Zoroaster]

It's essentially Proudhon's Mutualism, with different aspects and theories added by different theorists, such as Benjamin Tucker, Kevin Carson and other figures.

It differs from anarcho-capitalism since it supports voluntary association and the abolition of the wage system, but the worker's would democratically manage capital and money.

In certain versions of it, private ownership is still allowed, but most left-wing market anarchists support worker's control.

Communism seeks to abolish private ownership of the means of production and currency in all of it's forms.

[bropasaran]

In general, a lot of people use terms incorrectly, and when one assumes correctness, this one is somewhat weird- left-wing anarchism is a pleonasm, there cannot be right-wing anarchism. I suppose this amalgamation of words is supposed to reference a school of anarchism called anarcho-individualism.

Despite what Socialisme ou Barbarie (I started writing an acronym then realized it sounds like an insult) says, AnInd isn't actually "essentially mutualism", in fact, it isn't similar to it.

Anarcho-Individualism advocates a free-market of worker coops, it's based on the notion that markets are the best, they're effective, efficient, bring about quality, etc. AnInds would like to see everything provided by firms on the free market, not just production, distribution and provision of services, but also including social services like healthcare, education, infrastructure, security, etc. The system (in the imaginary world where it would be viable) would be socialistic- all firms would be worker co-ops, and there would be no rentiering.

[Zoroaster]

In general, a lot of people use terms incorrectly, and when one assumes correctness, this one is somewhat weird- left-wing anarchism is a pleonasm, there cannot be right-wing anarchism. I suppose this amalgamation of words is supposed to reference a school of anarchism called anarcho-individualism.

Despite what Socialisme ou Barbarie (I started writing an acronym then realized it sounds like an insult) says, AnInd isn't actually "essentially mutualism", in fact, it isn't similar to it.

Anarcho-Individualism advocates a free-market of worker coops, it's based on the notion that markets are the best, they're effective, efficient, bring about quality, etc. AnInds would like to see everything provided by firms on the free market, not just production, distribution and provision of services, but also including social services like healthcare, education, infrastructure, security, etc. The system (in the imaginary world where it would be viable) would be socialistic- all firms would be worker co-ops, and there would be no rentiering.

Ok, thanks for the clear-up. Sorry if I sounded rude, but I admit I don't know to much about market currents of anarchism.

[BIXX]

Anarcho-Individualism advocates a free-market of worker coops


Most individualist anarchists don't advocate for a free market.

[bropasaran]

Anarcho-Individualism is a school of anarchism as for example Anarcho-Collectivism. It's about specific forms of political and economic organisation advocated by people who are anarchists.

Individualism and collectivism as philosophical notions are a different topic, concerning what one thinks should be the focus of philosophical and moral considerations- the individual or the collective.

An anarchist can be an individualist philosophically and be a collectivist politically, thinking that things would be the best for the individual in a anarcho-collectivist system. On the other hand, at least theoretically, I haven't seen people with this specific view- an anarchist can be a collectivist philosophically and be an individualist politically, thinking that the collective would be the best off in an anarcho-individualist system.

"The Left-Libertarian" on YouTube did an interesting text/ video about collectivism as a term for both the philosophical view and the politico-economical view, called "The Anatomy of Collectivism - Myths and Reality", you can see it on the channel of the Anarchist Collective:

-hqBwYbAiFg

[Red_Morg98]

Anarcho-Individualism is a school of anarchism as for example Anarcho-Collectivism. It's about specific forms of political and economic organisation advocated by people who are anarchists.

Individualism and collectivism as philosophical notions are a different topic, concerning what one thinks should be the focus of philosophical and moral considerations- the individual or the collective.

An anarchist can be an individualist philosophically and be a collectivist politically, thinking that things would be the best for the individual in a anarcho-collectivist system. On the other hand, at least theoretically, I haven't seen people with this specific view- an anarchist can be a collectivist philosophically and be an individualist politically, thinking that the collective would be the best off in an anarcho-individualist system.

"The Left-Libertarian" on YouTube did an interesting text/ video about collectivism as a term for both the philosophical view and the politico-economical view, called "The Anatomy of Collectivism - Myths and Reality", you can see it on the channel of the Anarchist Collective:

-hqBwYbAiFg

Okay thanks, I'll check it out.

[Red_Morg98]

Okay, you've told me what it is. So, what are your opinions on it?

[tuwix]

After reading through some of the wikipedia page, i'm still uncertain what it is. How does it differ from anarcho-capitalism?


By property. Anarchists don't recognize property laws and for so-called ancaps a property is a holy thing.



Would there be private companies?


No. You could self-employed. But all property that produce a surplus-value that is private property is to be socialized into cooperatives.



How would this differ from socialism and communism?


By lack of state. Anarchism don't recognize any role of state in introducing of socialism.

[Bakunin's Apprentice]

Ancapism wants people to own the means of production privately. Left-wing market anarchism just wants people to own their products of production.

[Sewer Socialist]

What would that mean for products which are not currently sold on a market? If I am a teacher, what could I own? Children's educations?

[Comrade Jacob]

What the fuck does that mean? An-capitalism but the market is "geared" towards the benefit of the masses? A loud of Bollocks if you ask me.