"Bradford is an Israel-free zone" - George Galloway

[DannyMorin]

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Respect MP George Galloway has declared Bradford to be an "Israel-free zone" as a result of the ongoing conflict in Gaza.
Galloway told an audience, believed a Respect Party meeting Leeds, that he wants Bradford to reject all Israeli-goods in protest at the current crisis.
The MP for Bradford West added he doesn't even want any tourists from the "barbarous, savage" state of Israel to visit the city.
In a video, obtained by the Guido Fawkes blog, Galloway speaks in front of a Palestine flag to "declare Bradford an Israel-free zone".
He added: "We don't want any Israeli goods. We don't want any Israeli services. We don't want any Israeli academics, coming to the university or the college.
"We don't even want any Israeli tourists to come to Bradford if any of them had thought of doing so.
"We reject this illegal, barbarous, savage state that calls itself Israel. And you have to do the same."
Last October, Galloway walked out of a debate at Oxford Union after he found out one of the students he was debating with was an Israeli.
"I don't debate with racists," he declared.
ibtimes.co.uk/gaza-strip-crisis-respect-mp-george-galloway-declares-bradford-israel-free-zone-1460208

Very happy about this. Finally a public figure who isn't soft on Israel or an irrelevant pontificating academic.

[The Idler]

It's rhetoric and more meaningless than Galloway's usual rhetoric. Its designed to appeal to the more stupid of opponents of Israeli war policy.
Israeli goods, services or tourists are no more responsible for particular conflicts than Britain's. Boycotts of Israeli goods and services are about as likely to change Israeli war policy as boycotts of Palestinian goods and services are to change the war policy of Hamas.

[RA89]

Galloway is a moron. This speech is embarrassing.

[Lily Briscoe]

So some dumb left-populist demagoguery. I don't understand what there is to be "happy" about here.

[DannyMorin]

It's rhetoric and more meaningless than Galloway's usual rhetoric. Its designed to appeal to the more stupid of opponents of Israeli war policy.
Israeli goods, services or tourists are no more responsible for particular conflicts than Britain's. Boycotts of Israeli goods and services are about as likely to change Israeli war policy as boycotts of Palestinian goods and services are to change the war policy of Hamas.

Why do Chomsky and his supporters disagree with BDS? Because they are themselves two-state supporting Zionists. Chomsky even defines himself as such.

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3:30 onwards

"I don't regard myself as a critic of Israel, I regard myself as a supporter of Israel."

[DannyMorin]

So some dumb left-populist demagoguery. I don't understand what there is to be "happy" about here.

Strange how some sections of the left are so marginalised and bitter that they bash other sections of the left as "populist"; as if having a crowd-pleasing policy is actually something to be ashamed of, as if anybody who bothers communicating with a mainstream audience is wasting their time and should be in their darkened bedrooms reading about Enrico Barone instead.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Strange how some sections of the left are so marginalised and bitter that they bash other sections of the left as "populist"; as if having a crowd-pleasing policy is actually something to be ashamed of, as if anybody who bothers communicating with a mainstream audience is wasting their time and should be in their darkened bedrooms reading about Enrico Barone instead.

I know you're a troll so this isn't directed to you, but to anybody reading this thread and thinking Galloway is some sort of insurgent hero.

He's not a revolutionary in any sense. He is a demagogic, social democratic, rape-apologist masquerading as somebody who is radical because he could argue with himself in a room by himself.

He's a prick and his politics are shite.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Galloway: "I don't debate with Jews."

[Invader Zim]

Galloway: "I don't debate with Jews."


Galloway, did not, in fact, say that. He said that he does not debate with Israelis. Obviously it is rsther fruitful for a pro-zionists to paint the opponents of Israel policy as anti-semites, but it isn't so.

[DannyMorin]

I know you're a troll so this isn't directed to you, but to anybody reading this thread and thinking Galloway is some sort of insurgent hero.

He's not a revolutionary in any sense. He is a demagogic, social democratic, rape-apologist masquerading as somebody who is radical because he could argue with himself in a room by himself.

He's a prick and his politics are shite.

Keep voting Labour, comrade. :rolleyes:


Galloway: "I don't debate with Jews."

That's another Zionist lie. He said "Israelis."

Here's the video:

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In the past few days your posts have been straight out of the Zionist playbook. Conflate "Zionists" and "Israelis" and "Jews" as if they were the same thing, accuse posters of anti-semitism when they're criticising Zionism, mention the Holocaust when it isn't relevant and now this blatant, stupid lie that is easily exposed as such by the video I just posted.

You lied about Israel in this thread: revleft.com/vb/do-zionists-get-t190092/index.html
This thread: revleft.com/vb/zionists-should-restricted-t190094/index.html

And now here. Are you a professional hasbara troll or just a persistent amatuer?

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Galloway, did not, in fact, say that. He said that he does not debate with Israelis. Obviously it is rsther fruitful for a pro-zionists to paint the opponents of Israel policy as anti-semites, but it isn't so.

What does some random Israeli citizen have to do with the human rights abuses commited by the Israeli government and the IDF? Collective guilt is bullshit and I can read between the lines.

[TheEmancipator]

Galloway is a social reactionary who supports religious education and the brainwashing of thousands of British Muslims. He has already said he supports the gender segregation in Muslim schools.

When will some on here learn that supporting Muslims to spite the face of anti-Islam politicans such as Wilders, etc only plays into their hands. How do you think people like Farage and Wilders have strong working class base? Because they paint themselves as the anti-fascists, the fascists here being Islamist extremists.

Galloway is a converted Muslim in all but name anyway, so he is irrelevant, but we must remember that we should oppose all forms of religious extremism and expansionism.

[Invader Zim]

What does some random Israeli citizen have to do with the human rights abuses commited by the Israeli government and the IDF? Collective guilt is bullshit and I can read between the lines.

And what has any of that got to do with what I posted? You said, wrongly, that Galloway asserted that he "does not debate with Jews". That is not true. I corrected you. Now you bring up the idea of 'collective guilt', which Galloway does not apply (as shown in the video posted in the post below mine), as a an obvious red herring.

As for what Galloway actually said, rather than your obfuscation of the reality of his comment, it is that he does not debate with Israeli's there to defend the Israeli state's racist policies. The gold standard on the left, when dealing with those who support apartheid politics and policy is to refuse to give them a platform. It would be far more concerning if Galloway had debated that young man and given him the opportunity to air his support for apartheid Israel and defend its actions.

That has nothing to do with 'collective punishment' or 'collective guilt', and that you would suggest otherwise highlights either your shocking ignorance or alternatively the fact that you are here to troll.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

And what has any of that got to do with what I posted? You said, wrongly, that Galloway asserted that he "does not debate with Jews". That is not true. I corrected you. Now you bring up the idea of 'collective guilt', which Galloway does not apply (as shown in the video posted in the post below mine), as a an obvious red herring.

As for what Galloway actually said, rather than your obfuscation of the reality of his comment, it is that he does not debate with Israeli's there to defend the Israeli state's racist policies. The gold standard on the left, when dealing with those who support apartheid politics and policy is to refuse to give them a platform. It would be far more concerning if Galloway had debated that young man and given him the opportunity to air his support for apartheid Israel and defend its actions.

That has nothing to do with 'collective punishment' or 'collective guilt', and that you would suggest otherwise highlights either your shocking ignorance or alternatively the fact that you are here to troll.

You can cut the shit, I'm aware of the fact that I deliberately misquoted Galloway and I am confident other people did as well, which was the whole fucking point. What actually happened was, Galloway was debating a triple major student who happened to be Israeli, however, said student was not arguing in defense of the war nor did he comment on Israeli policies. It was only when the student said 'we' did he proceed to act like an idiot and a racist one at that. Even his statements in the OP are outrageous. No, Israeli tourists? You serious? I think one woman twitter had an interesting point, what if one of your constituents has Israeli citizenship? The organizers of the debate are equally appalled by his bullshit. This is not a 'no platform' incident because again, the student wasn't defending the war, was arguing for withdrawal from West Bank as part of an overall peace negotiations take place recognizing both the Palestinian and Israeli state. That's not lending support for the war nor is it defending the Israeli state or certain policies thereof. Get a clue and calm down.

[Lord Testicles]

You can cut the shit, I'm aware of the fact that I deliberately misquoted Galloway and I am confident other people did as well, which was the whole fucking point.

Why would you deliberately misquote someone? Not only is it disingenuous but it does nothing but muddy the water and invite conflict.

[Invader Zim]

Why would you deliberately misquote someone? Not only is it disingenuous but it does nothing but muddy the water and invite conflict.

because He/She is a zionist and intent on labelling anybody who does not agree with his/her stance on the Israel-Palestine conflict as an anti-semite.

[Geiseric]

What does some random Israeli citizen have to do with the human rights abuses commited by the Israeli government and the IDF? Collective guilt is bullshit and I can read between the lines.

What does every american citizen have to do with every war th US is involved in? Usually nothing but we still have a duty to end all of the interventions and wars regardless of how guilty we may feel.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

because He/She is a zionist and intent on labelling anybody who does not agree with his/her stance on the Israel-Palestine conflict as an anti-semite.

She actually isn't a Zionist and she deliberately misquoted the PM in a way which reflected what she felt was his true meaning. It's very obvious that she misquoted him, just as to the why should be just as obvious. She also thinks members here are accusing her of being Zionist or saying that she's merely calling people anti-Semites is a bullshit attempt to discredit what she is saying.

Further, this accusations of 'muddying the waters' or what have you is equally ridiculous. She also doesn't understand how within the context of the near annihilation of a whole group of people only 70+ years ago, which infected nearly all of Europe, why what she is saying is being received in such a manner.

This dude was obviously a douchebag engaged in douchebaggery.

[The Idler]

You don't have to be a Zionist or a two-stater to see BDS as stupid.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

So, here we have a thread about a washed-out Labourite, a sub-reformist, known for his friendly relations with a number of bourgeois governments and an approach to sexual minorities that is cynical at best, and most people are either cheering his ineffectual grandstanding (if anyone thinks Galloway can exclude Israel from anything, they are fooling themselves) or criticising him for daring to say bad things about Israel. Figures.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

So, here we have a thread about a washed-out Labourite, a sub-reformist, known for his friendly relations with a number of bourgeois governments and an approach to sexual minorities that is cynical at best, and most people are either cheering his ineffectual grandstanding (if anyone thinks Galloway can exclude Israel from anything, they are fooling themselves) or criticising him for daring to say bad things about Israel. Figures.

No, I was criticizing him for being a racist asshole against innocent Israeli students, civilian tourists and so on. As in people who bare no responsibility whatsoever for the war crimes of the IDF. I have no problem with sanctions, embargoes, boycotts taking place in response to the war against Gaza. I, in fact, support such measures being taking internationally.

[DOOM]

Sounds kinda like jew-free zone.
Huh, crazy, isn't it?

[Futility Personified]

I don't debate with jews is a terrible thing to say
I don't debate with Israelis is also a terrible thing to say.

Galloway gets his fair share of attacks from the establishment and his politics are dubious. The only attraction he can really have is as a political outsider, and seeing as he can't really do anything proper in his position he needs to hang on to his cushty salary by hopping up his rhetoric.

[Krasnyymir]

Galloway is an reactionary pseudo-socialist, who's willing to be a rent-a-radical and useful idiot for the system, in return for his very cushy salary, and all the attention, worship and idolization he receives from try-hard liberals and cafe-Marxists.

Just the fact that half his "fans" are bourgeoisie university students who are playing rebels, should be reason enough to put him up against the proverbial wall.

And the fact that he still receives support from leftist circles, after his fawning, bootlicking emails to Assad were made public is nothing short of astounding...

Now an Israeli is bound to be either:

A: Jewish (in the majority of the cases, whether it's of Jewish heritage or Jewish religion) or...

B: Arab. (Whether Bedouin, Christian or Moslem)

So saying "I don't talk to Israelis" is not just Fing stupid, it's also antisemitic and most of the time means "I don't talk to Jews".

Do I think Galloway is an antisemite? No. But I do think he's an idiot, an opportunist and a populist who's trying to fish for votes and support among those of Moslem and Arab heritage who ARE antisemites, since he knows it's a market he got mostly for himself.

(And obviously it's NOT all Moslems who are racist or antisemites, though there are plenty who are, who don't bother with the politeness of distinguishing between Israelis, Zionists or Jews.)

[Gerrard Winstanley]

What does every american citizen have to do with every war th US is involved in? Usually nothing but we still have a duty to end all of the interventions and wars regardless of how guilty we may feel.
"We" do not merit punishment for the ills of a bourgeois government, however.

[Invader Zim]

So saying "I don't talk to Israelis" is not just Fing stupid, it's also antisemitic and most of the time means "I don't talk to Jews".

There seems to be an issue here with basic comprehension. Galloway said he does not debate with Israelis. The context being he does not debate with Israeli supporters of zionism and the occupation and brutalization of Palestine.

It is no different from a person saying that they would refuse to debate with an Afrikaner out to defend apartheid at the height of the racist brutalities meted out in South Africa. You do not share platforms with racists, if you disagree with that then you should be on this board.