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Babeufist
28th July 2014, 15:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBFrdFolw0o
Unfortunately, many Western leftists prefer the slogan: SUPPORT YOUR IMPERIALISM!

Per Levy
28th July 2014, 16:26
TBFrdFolw0o

really? an antifascist struggle? comparering the situation in the ukraine with 1936 spain?

a shame the band ignores the fascist tendencies that are also part of the rebels. i do agree with western media being silent about the warcrimes though, but any pro-western regime can commit warcrimes without the western media caring all that much.


Unfortunately, many Western leftists prefer the slogan: SUPPORT YOUR IMPERIALISM!

oh please show me that "support", id love to see that. or is it once again an insult to people who dont support the latest "ani-imperialist" fad?

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
28th July 2014, 16:26
Investigate the fascist Tune Group! Repeal the Open Skies Agreements! Bring the real culprits of MH17 to justice!

Hrafn
28th July 2014, 16:42
Very saddened to witness such delusions. They are useful idiots for Moscow's imperialism, Russian neo-liberalism, and international Fascism.

They are not only that, but they are collaborators, allying with the class enemy against the workers, and should be treated as such in my book, just as anyone actively working with and supporting Svobda or the Right Sector would be.

Tim Cornelis
28th July 2014, 17:19
The Federal State of New Russia was declared by the New Russian Party.

Wikipedia:


The party, officially the 'Social-Political Movement – Party of New Russia', [4] was founded on 13 May 2014 in Donetsk, Ukraine.[5] "The new party will be led only by those people who in this difficult time showed themselves as true patriots of their Motherland and proved themselves as true fighters and defenders of their Fatherland," party leader Gubarev said.[5]
The first congress was attended by pro-Russian separatist officials of the Donetsk People's Republic, Donbass Militia. Notable figures belonging to anti-semitic Russian-nationalist extremist groups were involved,[6] including: Donetsk Republic leader Pavel Gubarev ['former' neo-Nazi and ultranationalist], neo-Nazi/fascist/Stalinist writer Alexander Prokhanov,[6] fascist political scientist and Eurasia Party leader Aleksandr Dugin, and Valery Korovin.[2][7] Both Prokhanov and Korovin are members of the Izborsky Club (ru), which advocate a "Eurasian Empire" to "save the peoples of Russia from degeneration and outside attack".[8] The congress announced the creation of a new self-declared confederate state called 'New Russia'. The state would, according to Dugin, have its capital city in Donetsk, Russian Orthodox Christianity as the state religion, and would nationalize major industries.[9] According to Gubarev the state would also include (the major cities currently not under control of separatists) Kharkiv, Kherson, Dnipropetrovsk, Mykolaiv and Zaporizhia.[10][11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Russia_Party

Are these the people you want to declare solidarity with?

Sinister Cultural Marxist
28th July 2014, 17:31
Yes, the leaders of the Donbass rebels clearly need our solidarity to protect them against the Western liberal love of homosexuals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People%27s_Republic#Attacks_on_homosexuals ), gypsies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People%27s_Republic#Attacks_on_Romani_.28G ypsies.29), and other things which offend our conservative ... er, sorry, "communist" principles. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People%27s_Republic#Attacks_on_homosexuals )

Babeufist
2nd August 2014, 22:37
Oh, I am so sorry that we "conservative" old-fashioned commies from Italy (Banda Bassotti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banda_Bassotti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banda_Bassotti) + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9xxwPvEWYA&list=PLECB720D2AEE697F9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9xxwPvEWYA&list=PLECB720D2AEE697F9) ), Eastern Europe (Kagarlitsky's http://www.workersliberty.org/kag (http://www.workersliberty.org/kag [/FONT]) RABKOR http://rabkor.ru/ (http://rabkor.ru/) , Borotba http://borotba.org/eng.html (http://borotba.org/eng.html) ), and Third World are not up-to-date. We should know that only_guys_who_know_what_the_Marxism/leftism_really_means live in the heart of our glorious civilization i.e. in the West, especially in the USA!
Fortunately many Westerners know what to do with pseudo-communists from Donbass - like Francesco Fontana http://rusvesna.su/english/1406324464 (http://rusvesna.su/english/1406324464) or Mikael Skillt http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329)
Goodnight

Hrafn
2nd August 2014, 23:06
I don't see how Italy could possibly be any more part of the West, but sure rant all you want.

Although, only do that if you start writing properly. That text size is terrible to read.

Krasnyymir
8th August 2014, 08:39
Yes, the leaders of the Donbass rebels clearly need our solidarity to protect them against the Western liberal love of homosexuals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People%27s_Republic#Attacks_on_homosexuals ), gypsies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People%27s_Republic#Attacks_on_Romani_.28G ypsies.29), and other things which offend our conservative ... er, sorry, "communist" principles. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People%27s_Republic#Attacks_on_homosexuals )

I take it you're being ironic, though irony doesn't always come across well online.

I don't know your exact stand on the insurrection in Ukraine, but it seems you believe some the propaganda coming out of Kiev, Brussels and Washington. Please take this in a comradely way.

1: The government in Kiev consists of a mix of "liberals", capitalist lackeys, and a large part of unrepentant fascists and Nazis.

2: The Donbass Rebels are fighting for their independence not just because of their right to self determination, but also to fight the fascist elements in Kiev, and to resist a brazen takeover by fascists and totalitarian capitalists from the EU and USA. (And what would you know...Joe Bidens son is already in Kiev, having been appointed to the board of a Ukranian energy company.)

3: Are there racist attacks against gypsies in the Donbass separatist territory? I'm not going to declare the reports you linked to a definite fabrication, since I don't know for sure, but it definitely looks like propaganda manufactured in Kiev.
In any case, the number of gypsies in the Donbass republic is very small. If anyone is genuinely concerned about this minority, they should know that:

A: Even if there have been cases of discrimination against them in Donbass, they are still much better off than their fellow Romas in Kiev and Western Ukraine, where they don't just face a tradition of anti-Roma sentiment, but also fascists gangs and nazi skinheads who hunt them down, sometimes with lethal outcomes. This happens with the tacit encouragement of the police and the fascist parties in power currently.

B: The number of Roma's in Ukraine or Donbass is very small. The real battle for their rights take place in EU members like Romania, Czech Republic and Slovakia, where the vast majority of Roma reside. And despite being a sizable minority in those countries, they still face massive violence, massive amounts of official as well as unofficial repression and economic and social injustice.

4: Are there cases of violence against gay minorities in Donbass? Unfortunately that's probably true, since homophobia is very common among the working and rural class here. However that's also the case in Western Ukraine, where the fascist parties in government and their skin head allies share these sentiments. At least in the Donbass homophobia isn't officially sanctioned by the governing parties, like it is in Kiev.

5: We shouldn't let an unfortunate lack of education on minorities and sexual rights stand in the way of taking a principled stand against fascism and imperialism, and giving our support to working class comrades fighting these evils. If anything, ethnic and sexual minorities would only face an even worse situation under a government like in Kiev. A government that consists of openly fascist and Neo-Nazi parties.

6: Palestine is also a place where not just sexual minorities, but also women face harsh repression and a deeply chauvinist and sexist culture. Especially from groups like Hamas and others that we traditionally regard and support as freedom fighters against imperialism. Why should we treat the Donbass Seperatists any differently in this regard?

7: I've yet to hear a comrade suggest, that we shouldn't support HAMAS, PLO or PFLP against the Israeli occupation, because it happens to be the case that Palestinian homosexuals move to Israel because it the only place they can openly live as gay men.
And it's with good reason that we don't hear that argument made, as it would be just as flawed as suggesting that we shouldn't support working class separatists in Donbass in their fight against a fascist enemy, because of isolated incidents of homophobic violence on their territory.

Per Levy
14th August 2014, 15:46
words

what an awsome whitewashing of racism, sexism and homphobia. or "racism exist and minority groups have it bad, but they would have it worse on the other side" so why should "we" support racists? because they fight imperialism? oh wait no they dont fight imperialism, they want to ally themselfs with russian imperialism. because they fight capitalism? well also no, obviously. because they fight "neo-liberalism"? oh once again no they dont cause if that is the case they would've allready attacked the former ukrainian gouverment.

also, you support hamas? seriously? and you call yourself a comrade?


Oh, I am so sorry that we "conservative" old-fashioned commies...

...support racists and homophobes not to mention people who couldnt care less for the emacipation of the working class.

ckaihatsu
15th August 2014, 04:20
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Hamas won the 2006 national elections precisely because of widespread hostility to the corruption of the Fatah leadership and its subservience to Israel.




Hamas has rejected Israel’s demand for the “demilitarisation” of Gaza—that is, the disarmament of Hamas fighters and those of other Palestinian factions—and is calling for an end to the economic blockade, an international reconstruction fund and the release of Palestinian prisoners by Israel.




Shaky truce holds in the Gaza Strip

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/08/07/gaza-a07.html

Trap Queen Voxxy
19th August 2014, 02:34
I will say that the states mentioned by Krasnymir have historically been more harsh on Roma than Russia has even despite the fact that Russia has also shit on is too.

this is interesting, read this guys (https://news.vice.com/article/both-sides-in-the-ukraine-crisis-could-face-war-crime-charges)

Sasha
19th August 2014, 14:30
double

Sasha
19th August 2014, 14:30
Leaders of pro-Russian separatist forces in eastern Ukraine resign By Andrea Peters
18 August 2014

Leading figures in the pro-Russian separatist movement in east Ukraine have announced their resignation over the past ten days. The reshuffle, coming alongside recent remarks by Russian President Vladimir Putin rebuffing pro-war sentiment in the Russian parliament, is bound up with the Kremlin’s efforts to de-escalate the confrontation with the Western imperialist powers over Ukraine.
At the end of last week, Igor Strelkov, the Donetsk People’s Republic’s (DPR) top military commander, resigned his post after a visit to Moscow and was replaced by Vladimir Kononov. According to the DPR’s new prime minister, Aleksandr Zakharchenko, Strelkov resigned to do “other important work.” Zakharchenko said Strelkov is simply in need of a vacation and will eventually return to play a role in Novorossiya, the self-proclaimed state uniting the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR).
Strelkov’s departure was announced simultaneously with the resignation of Valery Bolotov, the leader of the LPR. Bolotov has been replaced by Igor Plotnitsky, who was serving as the LPR’s defense chief. Previously, on August 7, DPR Prime Minister Aleksandr Borodai left his post, handing over the reins to Zakharchenko.
The leadership changes occur as the DPR and LPR struggle for survival in the face of a siege of both cities by the Ukrainian regime. More than 2,000 have been killed and thousands more wounded. Over half a million have fled to Russia, and residents remaining in the region have been cut off from water, electricity, and telephone service. On Friday, Zakharchenko appealed again for humanitarian aid.
The Kremlin is making renewed overtures to the West and efforts to contain pro-war sentiment within the Russian ruling elite. Yesterday, four-way talks between Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and representatives from Ukraine, Germany and France were held in Berlin. These talks followed a meeting between the heads of the Russian and Ukrainian presidential administrations in Sochi.
Over the weekend, Finnish President Sauli Niinistö also shuttled between the two regimes in an effort “to stop the string of negative events and contribute to stabilization.”
In Yalta on Thursday, Putin appealed to representatives from the Russian parliament’s major political factions in a special session to “calmly and effectively build up our country with dignity, not fence it off from the outside world.”
“We need to consolidate and mobilize: not for war or any kind of confrontation, [but] for hard work in the name of Russia,” he insisted.
While reiterating Moscow’s intention to integrate Crimea into Russia, developing its infrastructure and strengthening its defenses with the stationing of armed forces, Putin also cautioned against “saturating the peninsula with unnecessary personnel and surplus weapons.” He said that although Russia had the capacity to secure its sovereignty with “armed forces, ... this is not a panacea.”
Putin openly rebuffed far-right leader Vladimir Zhirinovksy, who has called for invading Ukraine, stating that Zhirinovksy’s views do not reflect the state’s official position.
Putin arrived four hours late to the event. In contrast to normal protocol, his address was not broadcast, and a full transcript of his remarks has not been made available to the press.
The resignation of the DPR and LPR leadership does not represent a shift in the political orientation of the leadership of the separatist movement. All those moved into the recently-vacated positions were active in the movement’s military or political apparatus from the start. However, in contrast to the DPR’s former top leaders, the new appointees are predominantly residents of east Ukraine.
As the Kiev regime has indicated that it will not broker a deal with those it has identified as “Russian invaders,” the changes appear to be an attempt to make the DPR-LPR leadership more acceptable to the Ukrainian government to lay the groundwork for a possible cessation of hostilities.
Aleksei Makarkin, deputy director of the Center of Political Technology, argued recently that Strelkov’s dismissal was bound up with the fact that being “hero of the Russian nationalists,” he was “absolutely incompatible with any groups of the Ukrainian elite, even with those with a critical attitude towards NATO.”
Whether or not the Kiev regime is open to a resolution of the conflict in southeastern Ukraine that falls short of the total destruction of the region remains to be seen. Shortly after the change in personnel in the DPR and the LPR, the Ukrainian government issued new allegations that the separatists are receiving direct aid and training from Moscow, citing remarks made by Zakharchenko to a meeting of his government. In an interview with LifeNews on August 16, Zakharchenko denied these allegations.
The forces leading the separatist movement in southeastern Ukraine came to power out of the political vacuum that emerged after mass opposition in the region erupted against the far-right coup in Kiev. They are Russian nationalists with various murky ties to the Kremlin and right-wing movements in Moscow.
Igor Strelkov acknowledged in July that until March 2013 he had been an officer in the Russian security services, and had fought in Transnistria, Bosnia, and Chechnya, the latter as part of Russian military operations. Former DPR Prime Minister Aleksandr Borodai is a Russian nationalist ideologue with a long history of writing for the right-wing press in Moscow and serving as an advisor to business interests. Pavel Gubarev, the “People’s Governor” of Donbass (the Donetsk basin), was a member of Russian National Unity, a neo-fascist organization.
Strelkov and Borodai, both Russian citizens who normally reside in Moscow, came to southeastern Ukraine after being in Crimea in the lead-up to the popular vote that led to the reunification of the peninsula with Russia.
These layers secured their control over opposition to the Kiev regime by exploiting nostalgia for the Soviet past to lend a progressive gloss to their nationalist outlook. While proclaiming Russian Orthodoxy to be a state religion, the DPR also plays the Internationale at official functions. On July 8, DPR military commander Strelkov claimed, “We are fighting here specifically for Russia and for the rights of the Donetsk Republic’s people. We are battling here for the USSR and for the Donetsk people’s rights as a part of the USSR. For the USSR as our universal, divine Motherland.”
The separatist Novorossiya project has been praised as a “red-brown” alliance by Eduard Limonov, head of the far-right National Bolshevik Party. In May, the DPR announced it was nationalizing all industry in the region and promised to provide basic social benefits to the population. Its claims were supported by a layer of the Russian and Ukrainian pseudo-left, which insisted that the right-wing leaders of the DPR and LPR were creating a “social state” and forming the basis for a broad populist movement.
By the end of May, however, the DPR had backtracked on its nationalization promises and said it would not touch the holdings of Rinat Akhmetov, the billionaire industrial baron of the region and primary owner of its coal operations.
Then-DPR Prime Minister Aleksandr Borodai stated, “We’re not talking about nationalization in relation to [Akhmetov’s] enterprises. We have no relationship to communists who seize and nationalize things. We respect the right of private property.” While describing Akhmetov’s refusal to pay taxes to the DPR government as illegal, Borodai praised the oligarch for all he had done for the region.


http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/08/18/sepa-a18.html

Sasha
19th August 2014, 14:36
most important bits from that ^


The forces leading the separatist movement in southeastern Ukraine came to power out of the political vacuum that emerged after mass opposition in the region erupted against the far-right coup in Kiev. They are Russian nationalists with various murky ties to the Kremlin and right-wing movements in Moscow.
Igor Strelkov acknowledged in July that until March 2013 he had been an officer in the Russian security services, and had fought in Transnistria, Bosnia, and Chechnya, the latter as part of Russian military operations. Former DPR Prime Minister Aleksandr Borodai is a Russian nationalist ideologue with a long history of writing for the right-wing press in Moscow and serving as an advisor to business interests. Pavel Gubarev, the “People’s Governor” of Donbass (the Donetsk basin), was a member of Russian National Unity, a neo-fascist organization.
Strelkov and Borodai, both Russian citizens who normally reside in Moscow, came to southeastern Ukraine after being in Crimea in the lead-up to the popular vote that led to the reunification of the peninsula with Russia.
These layers secured their control over opposition to the Kiev regime by exploiting nostalgia for the Soviet past to lend a progressive gloss to their nationalist outlook. While proclaiming Russian Orthodoxy to be a state religion, the DPR also plays the Internationale at official functions. On July 8, DPR military commander Strelkov claimed, “We are fighting here specifically for Russia and for the rights of the Donetsk Republic’s people. We are battling here for the USSR and for the Donetsk people’s rights as a part of the USSR. For the USSR as our universal, divine Motherland.”
The separatist Novorossiya project has been praised as a “red-brown” alliance by Eduard Limonov, head of the far-right National Bolshevik Party. In May, the DPR announced it was nationalizing all industry in the region and promised to provide basic social benefits to the population. Its claims were supported by a layer of the Russian and Ukrainian pseudo-left, which insisted that the right-wing leaders of the DPR and LPR were creating a “social state” and forming the basis for a broad populist movement.
By the end of May, however, the DPR had backtracked on its nationalization promises and said it would not touch the holdings of Rinat Akhmetov, the billionaire industrial baron of the region and primary owner of its coal operations.
Then-DPR Prime Minister Aleksandr Borodai stated, “We’re not talking about nationalization in relation to [Akhmetov’s] enterprises. We have no relationship to communists who seize and nationalize things. We respect the right of private property.” While describing Akhmetov’s refusal to pay taxes to the DPR government as illegal, Borodai praised the oligarch for all he had done for the region.

Babeufist
19th August 2014, 18:36
by Ukrainian communist Svetlana Tsiberganova


Many are surprised at how quickly Ukrainian society has come under the influence of aggressive chauvinistic propaganda and has begun to live according to the principles of Orwellian dystopia: "War – is peace! Freedom – is slavery! Democracy – is the limitation of all rights! Freedom of speech – is silence! The victims burned and killed themselves!"[1] (http://www.marxist.com/ukraine-the-collapse-of-left-liberalism.htm#foot-1#foot-1).
However, there is really nothing that should be surprising in this.
If we analyse the recent history of the "left-wing movement" in Ukraine, it is clear that these cynical principles are the very essence of Ukrainian nationalism, and can be heard even among those who should not have succumbed to the chauvinist hysteria.
Why did the "left" liberals go to Maidan? Why were Ukrainian nationalists under the flags of the EU – screaming "Muscovites to the knives! Death to the enemies!" – referred to by “left” liberals as being “the people”, while the population of the South-East, singing "Arise, great country!" became "sovky"[2] (http://www.marxist.com/ukraine-the-collapse-of-left-liberalism.htm#foot-2#foot-2), "cattle" and "Colorado beetles"? Did the “leftists” not notice the anti-communist rhetoric that was heard everywhere at Maidan? Did they not notice the sincere promises to make anti-social reforms immediately after the victory of Maidan – the same counter-reforms being implemented today? And what about the aggression against all those who raised a progressive demands? Or the calls to suppress all dissent? Or the clerics who projected women as the "helper of the man", according to the chivalrous ideals of the late Middle Ages Ukraine? Was it not obvious who these Maidan supporters really were?
For a long time, I was not able to solve this riddle, until I found on my computer a photo from winter at Maidan Nezalezhnosti, where the crowd was wiping their feet on the red flag. Everything became clear.
All of the liberals, who today actively defend the regime of the oligarchs and nationalists, and who for years insulted the left and engaged in the uprooting and destroying of communist symbols, are no different in this respect from the "brown" Ukrainian nationalists. They supported the anti-communist rhetoric, demonising the Soviet past to the extreme. They implemented anti-left education and historical sciences in order to ward the masses and workers away from socialism, thus helping in the growth of the right.
Many times, on every May Day organising committee, I had to defend the main symbol of the international communist and workers' movement – the red flag with the hammer and sickle. There were those who called for its removal, so as not to scare off liberals and nationalists – although they did not mind the red and black flags of anarchists, which 100% of the people of Kiev associated with the red-black flags of the ultra-nationalist Bandera movement.
Marginal "left" sectarians actively fought with "authoritarian Stalinism" (which has not existed for decades), cowardly ignoring the real threat in the coming to power of Ukrainian nationalism, which has demonstrated stunning authoritarianism – the kind which was rarely seen even in the committees of the Communist Party of Ukraine.
The point is that the Ukrainian "anarchists" (I cannot write it without the quotes) and "libertarians" became the vanguard of Ukrainian Nationalism before “it was cool”. That is, long before the "Euromaidan".
It is not surprising that now they do not want to see the thousands of wounded and dead civilians in the South-East of Ukraine. After all, they are afraid to lose the support of European funds – by breaking their habit of not threatening the power structures – by even organising a peaceful anti-war protest in the capital in order to stop the killing of some “savky”. They are scared to stand up to the right, face hysterical criticism from their office, or become outcasts in their native hipster hangouts and be branded as "agents of the FSB", ever since the leaders of the Ukrainian bourgeois regime labelled anti-war protests as Kremlin-financed provocations.
It is much easier to get a grant for a modest round table discussion "about the threat of war." Did you hear? We have a war! Do you want to talk about it to get the money of European sponsors? At this time, every other (if not every) bus of refugees from Lugansk comes under attack from the Ukrainian army and right-wing militants at checkpoints. These are the same volunteer fighters for whom Kiev "libertarians” collect money for weapons and body armor.
And even worse, a number of so-called anarchists are openly fighting on the side of the executioners under the command of Nazis, in the battalions "Azov" and "Donbas", publicly boasting about the murder of Ukrainians and about how they are taught by Swedish racists.
If that is not a crime, then why do the posts in personal blogs – revealing the truth about the killing of innocent civilians, women, children and the elderly, killed workers; demanding that the war must be stopped – mean support for Putin and separatism? Indeed, in recent months, no one, none of my “left” liberal friends who brought food for the far-right fighters at Maidan and commemorated the "Heavenly hundred"[3] (http://www.marxist.com/ukraine-the-collapse-of-left-liberalism.htm#foot-3#foot-3), have given a word or a glance, or even a hint of condemning the actions of the Ukrainian army and the Ukrainian right-wing militants, and have not at all sympathised with the victims at the hands of these people. One of the most popular excuses for war crimes: "They are to blame - they have not expelled the Donbas bandits, they provoked the war with their referendum!”. The point is this: how is this "left" different from the average fanatic nationalist? Let's be honest – nothing.
But the vilest part of the sentimental swamp of left liberalism is related to their attitude to the Ukrainian political prisoners and refugees, among whom are many of our comrades. Thousands of illegally (and even mistakenly arrested) people have no support from the liberal “human rights” defenders. The principle of the Maidan activists: "our people – everything; strangers - the law!" People who justify again and again the massacres, kidnappings and beatings, committed again and again by the supporters of the regime, are trying to blame others and their different ideological positions in the struggle against the war. If this is anarchism, then what is the meaning of fascism?
Now I'm home in the Donbas. Every day, and sometimes all night, we have shooting and shelling. Throughout the city are men with guns. But for the moment, I feel more or less calm, for the first time in many months of hard and heavy work; for the first time since the storming of the offices of "Borotba" and the mass arrests of people in Kharkiv, many of whom became my friends; after the attacks on my friends and persecution by police and intelligence services; after the kidnapping attempt on my comrade and boyfriend in broad daylight in the center of the city.
We get solidarity from a large number of people, partisans of peace – often apolitical; from Ukrainians and people from different countries around the world. But to support the opposition to the current regime – this is a too courageous act for the left liberal. None of them commented on the murder of a member of the Communist Party, Vyacheslav Kovshun, by neo-Nazis, probably because he was not the man for them, and a member of the "wrong bourgeois Communist Party", while the Nazis who killed him were “progressive Maidan activists”. No one said a word about the kidnapping of our comrade, a communist from Volnovakha, or the murder of Mariupol journalist Dolgov. And just the same they kept silent on the assassination of the opponents of the right regime in Kharkov, Odessa and in the Donbas.
I had hoped that the “left” would take part in anti-war actions, by supporting the wives and mothers in Western Ukraine, who protest against the forced conscription of their husbands and children. But what can you expect from those who do not have the heart to be called a communist; from those who consider themselves "left", obediently serving the interests of the Nazis and the oligarchs?
Now there is hope for humanity and for the honesty of people. And I know that such honest people are out there.
The events in recent days, the protests of mothers and wives of Ukrainian soldiers, have shown that the Ukrainian workers do not need a glamorous leftist fringe. Ukrainian workers need bold and ideological communists, for whom the word “leftist" has long brought on a contemptuous sneer. Workers need those who are not afraid of the working class, and who are ready to organise and educate; those who do not have to ask, "how do I start a conversation with a worker so that they do not tell me to go away?"; those who see the future in the working class, and not in the propaganda of the oligarchy.
I know these people. Their numbers are growing and they have a future ahead of them. It is these people who will make Ukraine free and socialist.
Notes

[1] (http://www.marxist.com/ukraine-the-collapse-of-left-liberalism.htm#doc-1#doc-1) Referring to the explanation of Kiev supporters to the Odessa massacre of May 2nd.
[2] (http://www.marxist.com/ukraine-the-collapse-of-left-liberalism.htm#doc-2#doc-2) Pejorative term for pro-USSR people used by modern day liberals. Literal meaning is “shovel”.
[3] (http://www.marxist.com/ukraine-the-collapse-of-left-liberalism.htm#doc-3#doc-3) Refers to the protesters that died fighting at Maidan. A “hundred” is a Ukrainian Cossack term for battalion.

Babeufist
19th August 2014, 18:39
Brigadas Internacionales en Donbass - not for leftish hipsters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_z3Pz21PI
Nazi salutation of Ukrainian army http://cs618829.vk.me/v618829318/10480/IOn83qGoiDM.jpg

Tim Cornelis
19th August 2014, 18:48
Okay, so we have Spanish fascist collaborators now. Useful idiots of Russian ultranationalism and imperialism. Babeuf continues to support these national-Bolsheviks, national-Stalinists, neo-fascists, neo-Nazis, and anti-semites. But I guess hating on National-Bolshevism and neo-fascism just makes me a "leftist hipster", not like real leftists: they always back extreme right ultranationalism.

The same discussion on facebook with some fool.

Why are some socialists so fucking stupid?

Babeufist
19th August 2014, 18:49
PS. Gubarev was member of the RNE when he was 16 old. But since several years he is activist of the Progressive Socialist Party of Ukraine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Socialist_Party_of_Ukraine

Tim Cornelis
19th August 2014, 19:03
The "Progressive Socialist Party" is, as you can see from the wikipedia, a pan-Slavic nationalist party with leftist trappings: which is third positionism. As it also says on the wikipedia page, it is affiliated with the Eurasian Youth Union: a national-bolshevik political organisation.
So when the PSP claims to be 'communist' what they mean is that they advocate a national-Stalinism (state power and control over the country and economy to make Russia into a superpower once more, so it's a tool of imperialist empire-building).

So Gubarev is a National-Bolshevik. He is a fascist.

So let me reiterate: Babeuf continues to support these national-Bolsheviks, national-Stalinists, neo-fascists, neo-Nazis, and anti-semites.

Incidentally, Gubarev is no longer a member of the PSP, he is a member of the New Russia Party. Which is also a far-right party:


The first congress was attended by pro-Russian separatist officials of the Donetsk People's Republic, Donbass Militia. Notable figures belonging to anti-semitic Russian-nationalist extremist groups were involved,[6] including: Donetsk Republic leader Pavel Gubarev, Russian writer Alexander Prokhanov,[6] National Bolshevist political scientist and Eurasia Party leader Aleksandr Dugin, and Valery Korovin.[2][7] Both Prokhanov and Korovin are members of the Izborsky Club (ru), which advocate a "Eurasian Empire" to "save the peoples of Russia from degeneration and outside attack".[8] The congress announced the creation of a new self-declared confederate state called 'New Russia'. The state would, according to Dugin, have its capital city in Donetsk, Russian Orthodox Christianity as the state religion, and would nationalize major industries.[9] According to Gubarev the state would also include (the major cities currently not under control of separatists) Kharkiv, Kherson, Dnipropetrovsk, Mykolaiv and Zaporizhia.[10][11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Russia_Party

Hrafn
19th August 2014, 22:58
Thanks for the interesting articles, Vasilina and Sasha! (and thanks Tim for doing my job for me)

Babeufist
23rd August 2014, 22:25
First: I do not support capitalist dictatorship of Putin. I support peoples of Donbass. You think every so-called "separatist" is Putin's soldier but you know nothing about this conflict.
Second: For Proletarian Opposition to U.S./E.U./NATO Imperialists’ Cold War Drive!


The Bugbear of “Russian Imperialism”

In the global crisis unleashed by the battle over Ukraine, the imperialists are preparing a new Cold War. In Cold War I following WWII, the target of the West’s military, economic and political threats was the bureaucratically degenerated workers state of the Soviet Union. After a brief interlude of “détente” resulting from the U.S.’ ignominious 1975 defeat in Vietnam, a second anti-Soviet Cold War was launched when Washington provoked Moscow’s intervention in Afghanistan in 1980. Now, two decades after the 1989-92 counterrevolution that brought down the Soviet bloc and broke up the USSR, a looming Cold War III is directed at capitalist Russia. The daily denunciations and sanctions from the U.S. and its NATO allies, along with the hysteria in the imperialist media, are eerily familiar. For now, the threats are mainly verbal, talk of “punishing” Putin for violating the rules of the post-Soviet “New World Order” of unbridled U.S. hegemony.1 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_1#foot note_1) But the propaganda war and economic war ultimately presage a shooting war.

In this conflict, quite a few social-democratic groups echo the Western media, railing against “Russian imperialism” for incorporating Crimea and accusing Moscow of fomenting unrest in eastern Ukraine. They blithely pass over the fact that Crimea has historically been part of Russia and that the overwhelming majority of the Crimean population strongly supported joining Russia. They dismiss the uprisings against the Kiev regime in Donetsk and Lugansk as the work of Russian “provocateurs,” ignoring the clear mass support for self-rule among the largely Russian-speaking population of this industrial region. The claims by these reformists that they also oppose Western imperialism are a cynical cover as they side with the Kiev junta of fascists and free-market ultra-rightists that seized power with the backing of the U.S., NATO and European Union.
Here are some of the refrains from this pseudo-socialist pro-imperialist chorus:
The British Socialist Workers Party (SWPUK) declares “Imperialist rivals push Ukraine to brink of war,” saying “Intervention in Crimea has escalated a deadly game between Russia and the West” (Socialist Worker [UK], 8 March). In the same issue, an article by SWPUK guru Alex Callinicos says that Russian president “Putin is engaging in an inter-imperialist power play” and that fighting imperialism “means opposing Russian intervention in Ukraine.” The British SWP is part of the current founded by the late Tony Cliff, who broke from the Trotskyist Fourth International at the dawn of Cold War I, refusing to defend the Soviet Union against imperialism and justifying this with the claim that the USSR was “state capitalist.”
Another British social-democratic outfit, Workers Liberty (WL), proclaims: “Russia is an imperialist country attempting to negate Ukraine’s self-determination and subordinate it. We support the Ukrainians’ strivings for national freedom just as we support strivings for freedom by other oppressed or potentially oppressed nations” (Workers Liberty website, 17 April). Over the course of the second Cold War in the 1980s, the current that became WL embraced the heritage of another renegade from Trotskyism, Max Shachtman, who broke with Trotsky on the eve of World War II, and refused to defend the USSR against the invasion by Nazi Germany, claiming in justification that the Soviet Union was no kind of workers state but “bureaucratic collectivist.”
In the United States, the leading Cliffite group is the International Socialist Organization (ISO), which declared: “Russian imperialism has made its move to retain political and economic domination over the country with its takeover of Crimea – this should be unconditionally condemned by all revolutionaries claiming to be anti-imperialists” (Socialist Worker [U.S.], 11 March). The ISO vociferously denounced leftists who condemned U.S./NATO imperialism instead of “Russia, Ukraine’s past and present imperial overlord,” and declared that “The right can exploit legitimate hostility to Russian imperialism” (Socialist Worker, 12 March).This is a bald-faced justification of fascist propaganda by Pravy Sektor (Right Sector), Svoboda, et al.2 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_2#foot note_2) For its part, the centrist League for the Revolutionary Party (LRP), whose roots go back to the Shachtman tendency, calls to “Defend Ukraine Against Russian Imperialism” (LRP website, 18 March).
It’s no accident that groups coming out of the virulently anti-Soviet Shachtmanite and Cliffite currents are leading the pack howling against “Russian imperialism” today, since they have been doing so since breaking with Trotskyism on the key “Russian question.” It’s notable as well that they all claim that China today is capitalist and some even label it “imperialist,” refusing to defend the Chinese deformed workers state against counterrevolution and the threats and machinations of the real imperialists. Note as well that on the basis of shared anti-Sovietism, both Cliffites and Shachtmanites supported “leftist” offshoots of the fascist Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) founded by Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera in the post-World War II period when it was kept alive by the U.S. spy agencies.
This points to the second reason why the social-democratic hue and cry over “Russian imperialism” in Ukraine is politically logical: many of these outfits have repeatedly backed all sorts of nationalists and ultra-reactionaries sponsored by Western imperialism. Leftist groups who hailed the CIA’s mercenary mujahedin against Soviet intervention in Afghanistan, who as the USSR was breaking up praised Baltic SS Einsatzgruppen that carried out mass execution of Jews, and who paint as revolutionaries pro-imperialist Islamist jihadis in Libya and Syria have no qualms about siding with a Ukrainian junta composed of rightist puppets of Washington, Wall Street and Eurobankers imposing vicious anti-working class austerity, backed up by squads of fascist killers.



Like the RCA Victor mascot Nipper in the old gramophone logo, in barking against “Russian imperialism,” these “leftist” lap dogs of U.S./NATO imperialism are just echoing “their master’s voice.” Shachtmanites and Cliffites claimed to be in a “Third Camp” during World War II and the anti-Soviet Cold War respectively. While Trotskyists fought tenaciously to defend the Soviet degenerated workers state, despite and against the bureaucratic leadership of Stalin and his heirs whose policies endangered the survival of the first workers state in history, these anti-Trotskyists proclaimed: “Neither Washington nor Moscow.” In reality there was no “third camp” and they ended up as camp followers of the first, imperialist “camp.”
Is Russia Imperialist? I: Monopoly and Export of Capital

Not everyone on the left is repeating the imperialist refrain over Ukraine, but among those who don’t there is little clarity about the nature of the capitalist states that arose out of the counterrevolution that destroyed the multinational Soviet Union. It’s worth asking, is Russia imperialist? Is Putin building a new Russian Empire? So say academic anti-communists like Yale’s sinister Timothy Snyder, who is sympathetically interviewed on “progressive” Democracy Now TV/radio show. Snyder is the author of Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin (Basic Books, 2012) that grotesquely equates the USSR with Nazi Germany. And what about Ukraine and other “post-Soviet” states of Eurasia, are they colonies or semi-colonies whose fate is decided in the Kremlin?
To answer this question, one must first define what imperialism is. Standard bourgeois definitions would include “the principle or policy of empire; the advocacy of holding political dominion or control over dependent territories” (Oxford English Dictionary), “state policy, practice, or advocacy of extending power and dominion, especially by direct territorial acquisition or by gaining political and economic control of other areas” (Encyclopedia Britannica), or more generally “a policy or practice by which a country increases its power by gaining control over other areas of the world” (Merriam-Webster). By these definitions, there was Greek and Roman imperialism in the ancient world, and British, Spanish, Dutch and French imperialism from the dawn of their respective colonial empires in the 16th and 17th centuries. One might add the Aztecs, Incas and the Mughal Empire in India to this list of “imperialisms.”
So how do the “socialist” fustigators of “Russian imperialism” today use the term? The British SWP published a two-page spread on “Imperialism’s Game of Empires” (Socialist Worker [UK], 5 April) in which it defines imperialism as consisting of “control, either direct or indirect, of weaker countries.” This classless definition could apply to any foreign intervention by a powerful country. Even when it says the “driving force” of the “global system” of imperialism is “competition between the big capitalist powers,” in the next breath it claims that the Cold War was a conflict “between capitalist and state capitalist powers,” the latter being their anti-Marxist label for the USSR and the Soviet bloc deformed workers states. For decades, the Cliffites denounced Soviet intervention as “Russian imperialism,” from Korea in the 1950s to Afghanistan in the 1980s, as they lined up with the real imperialists.



Theirs is a boiled-down version of the standard bourgeois definition, very different from the Marxist, and specifically Leninist definition of imperialism. In his pamphlet, Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism (1916), Lenin defines capitalist imperialism as follows:
(1) The concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital and the creation, on the basis of this ‘finance capital,’ of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital, as distinguished from the export of commodities, acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves; and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed.”
The central point of Lenin’s work is that imperialism is not just a policy, which the rulers could change – as opportunists such as Karl Kautsky argued – but rather the stage of monopoly capitalism, in which the dominance of finance capital requires imperialist practices. Kautsky’s definition served to justify his utopian-reformist, pacifist program of pressuring the rulers to adopt peaceful “non-imperialist” policies. Lenin’s analysis laid bare that the only road to peace was to overthrow the imperialist system.
So where does Russia today stand according to these criteria? Certainly, in this land of “oligarchs,” monopolies dominate the Russian economy. Overall, a few hundred large capitalists control about 40% of sales.3 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_3#foot note_3) This is partly due to the structure of the economy in which industry (mining, manufacturing, construction and power), with its huge capital requirements and economies of scale, contributes a far larger share of the gross domestic product (37%) than in the United States (20%).4 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_4#foot note_4) But mainly it is a reflection of the fact that Russian capitalism has been built on the remains of the centralized, collectivized economy, in which whole industrial sectors and regional distribution chains were controlled by a single enterprise. The monopolies are not particularly large by international capitalist standards, but there are very few small firms.
An Austrian pseudo-Trotskyist, Michael Pröbsting,5 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_5#foot note_5) has recently authored an opus titled “Russia as a Great Imperialist Power: The Formation of Russian Monopoly Capital and Its Empire” (Revolutionary Communism, March 2014). Pröbsting argues that Russia is imperialist in the first instance because of the domination of the economy by monopolies, citing Gazprom, Sberbank, Rosneft and Lukoil, and others. This proves nothing. In the era of combined and uneven development, even in semi-colonial capitalist countries monopolies often dominate the economy. Brazil’s Vale Corp. and Mexico’s Cemex and América Móvil outrank Gazprom and Lukoil in foreign assets,6 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_6#foot note_6) but that doesn’t make Brazil or Mexico imperialist.
And this is certainly not the dominance of finance capital, the cornerstone of Lenin’s analysis of imperialism. Russia has only 2 of the top 100 banks in the world ranked by total assets, Sberbank (No. 74) and VTB (No. 93), whose combined worth is less than half that of the three Brazilian banks on the list (Itaú Unibanco, Banco do Brasil and Bradesco). Banks constitute a much smaller part of the Russian economy (4% of GDP) than in the U.S. (8% of GDP and 41% of corporate profits) or the rest of the imperialist West, and play little role in directing the economy. Sberbank is a giant savings bank, majority state-owned, which mainly finances majority state-owned firms. VTB, also majority state-owned, is the former Soviet foreign trade bank. Its subsidiaries in ex-Soviet republics focus on financing trade with Russia.
As for export of capital, Russia is in an intermediate position between imperialist countries and neo-colonial countries. Thus Russian total foreign investment amounts to 21% of GDP, far less than Sweden (78% of GDP), Great Britain (74%) France (54%), Germany (46%) or the U.S. (35%), or even Chile (37%); substantially more than Brazil and Mexico (around 10%) and about the same as South Africa (22%).7 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_7#foot note_7) In addition, while in imperialist countries foreign investment outside the country (44% of GDP in “developed economies”) almost always exceeds foreign investment inside the country (33% of GDP), in Russia outward foreign direct investment (21% of GDP) is less than inward FDI (26%), though the gap is not nearly as great as with the larger semi-colonial countries where capital inflows can be double or triple the outflows.
Moreover, a large part of the capital outflows from Russia are hardly foreign investment at all, but hiding funds in offshore tax havens. Look at the countries which are the recipients of Russian foreign “investment”: Ukraine, 1.2%; rest of former USSR, 3.1%; but European Union, 64%, of which Cyprus accounts for US$122 billion, or 34% (and in 2012, 43%).8 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_8#foot note_8) Cyprus? No center of industry or raw materials supplies, but it is (or was) a tax paradise. The other main destination, the British Virgin Islands (12.8% in 2012), has since dramatically increased its share from US$49 billion to $80 billion as Russian money fled to the British tax haven in the 2013 collapse of the Cyprus banking system. Far from encouraging foreign investment, the Russian government has been appealing to bring this “flight capital” home, to no avail.9 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_9#foot note_9)
Much of this is capital temporarily parked off-shore, as suggested by the fact that inflows and outflows of capital largely balance out year after year. Thus the accounting firm Ernst & Young did an analysis of movement of Russian funds from 2007 to 2011 (“Capital Outflow from Russia: From Myths to Reality” [2012]), showing US$135 billion movement to offshores and $133 billion from offshores. Their conclusion: “The amount of real capital outflow is overstated by a factor of at least 2x.” Moreover, several leading Russian companies have been divesting themselves of foreign holdings, such as Severstal which is seeking to sell its two U.S. steel plants.10 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_10#foo tnote_10) Asia, Africa and Latin America, there are very few.
The bottom line is that far from having “an enormous ‘surplus of capital’” (Lenin, in Imperialism) that is scouring the globe for more lucrative investments, to corner markets or jack up profit margins by exploiting low-wage labor in semi-colonial countries, Russia has a capital shortage and is a net importer of capital. Only one of the world’s 100 largest “transnational” corporations is Russian (Vimpel.com, No. 93, a cellphone company, with less than half the assets of Brazil’s Vale and the same size as Carlos Slim’s Mexico-based América Móvil). As far as the search for raw materials supplies is concerned, Russia is endowed with vast quantities of almost every vital resource, including the largest natural gas reserves in the world. It is primarily an exporter of raw materials and energy (oil and gas supply 70% of total export earnings). In short, on the criterion of exporting capital, Russia is far from qualifying as an imperialist country.
Is Russia Imperialist? II: Dividing Up and Dominating the World Territorially




The same goes for being part of “international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world.” For all the talk of “partnership,” post-Soviet capitalist Russia has been treated as an outsider, to be dealt with warily. Although Russia applied to join the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 1993, it was not admitted until 2012, more than a decade after China. The Russian Federation is still excluded from the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), the club of leading capitalist countries, which has been expanded to include Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Mexico and the Czech Republic. The NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) imperialist military alliance has been expanding right up to Russia’s borders. And now Russia has been kicked out of the Group of Eight leading powers.
Lenin’s definition of imperialism had several elements, and some countries might qualify as imperialist by most but not all criteria. Lenin himself pointed to “a country most backward economically (Russia), where modern capitalist imperialism is enmeshed, so to speak, in a particularly close network of pre-capitalist relations.” Yet despite its economic weakness and backwardness, the tsarist empire acted as the “policeman of Europe” in the mid-19th century, crushing revolutions in Hungary and Poland; and during the Balkan Wars on the eve of World War I, it was seen as the protector of the southern Slavs against the Austro-Hungarian Empire. So Russia’s economy is not dominated by finance capital, it is not a major exporter of capital and it has not gained full admittance to the imperialist clubs, but what of its geopolitical role?
Pröbsting in his tract claims that “Russian imperialism already dominates or at least plays a central role in oppressing a number of Central Asian and Eastern European semi-colonies.” He claims that one of the 28 tables he prints (No. 9) shows that:
“Russia’s monopolies are investing in mostly semi-colonial Central Asia and Eastern Europe, as well as in Western imperialist Europe and in the semi-colonial Balkans. From these figures we can conclude that Russian monopolies derive significant extra-profit from their foreign investments in the semi-colonial countries in Eastern Europe, the Balkans, and Central Asia.”
The figures show nothing of the sort, giving no indication of actual amounts of investment. With this sleight of hand, he is hoping that readers won’t recall that a previous table (No. 4) showed that less than 4% of Russia’s foreign investment went to Central Asia, Eastern Europe and the Balkans. Even if a portion of transfers to tax havens are actually investments in offshore Russian companies, such as Lukoil’s U.S. operations headquartered in the British Virgin Islands, very little of these are invested in Central Asia and Eastern Europe.



Tengiz oil field: U.S., European imperialists are exploiting Central Asian resources. (Photo: New York Times)
For example, the statistics showing US$2.5 billion of Russian foreign investment (0.7% of the total) in Kazakhstan certainly understate the actual amount. Several sources put the real figure at US$7 billion. But this is less than the $9.7 billion corresponding to U.S. firms, and less than 8% of the total foreign investment in the country (which accounts for four-fifths of all foreign investment in Central Asia).11 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_11#foo tnote_11) That is because the investments are concentrated in the petroleum industry, including the giant Tengiz oil field operated by a consortium led by Chevron and Exxon and the mammoth project at Kashagan, undertaken by a consortium led by Eni (Italy), BP (Britain), Statoil (Norway), Mobil, Royal Dutch Shell and Total S.A. (France). The Russian Rosneft and Lukoil only have minor fields producing far less than the Austrian OMW.
As for dividing up the world territorially, Russia hasn’t been notably successful in that department either. While Moscow’s rulers have waged two brutal, dirty wars to prevent the secession of Chechnya from the Russian Federation, they have accepted the independence of the non-Russian Soviet republics. Yeltsin even encouraged them, playing to a chauvinist sentiment that Russia should stop subsidizing the rest of the USSR. Putin has declared that “the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century,” not because of any lingering affinity for socialism, however perverted and negated by Stalinism, but on the nationalist grounds that “tens of millions of our co-citizens and compatriots found themselves outside Russian territory” (address to the federal assembly of the Russian Federation, April 2005).
There is no doubt that Putin would like to restore the “glory” and power of the Russian Empire, but post-Soviet capitalist Russia has not been and still is not in a position to do so. Moscow has not turned the screws on the Baltic Republics, although their reactionary capitalist leaders have excluded several hundred thousand ethnic Russians from citizenship in Estonia and Latvia on the basis of Nazi-style “blood laws,” requiring ethnic Russians to be naturalized, renounce Russian citizenship and pass discriminatory language exams. In all three countries SS and police battalions of Nazi collaborators during World War II are hailed as national heroes, including those who executed Communists and slaughtered tens of thousands of Jews.



Washington engineered 2005 “Tulip Revolution” (above) in Kyrgyzstan, Central Asia, providing printing presses and financing opposition groups while maintaining military base in Manas to supply U.S. occupation forces in Afghanistan.
In ex-Soviet Central Asia there are no Russian military bases, nor has Moscow used military pressure to dominate the region. The U.S., on the other hand, has a base in Manas, Kyrgyzstan, a staging point for supplying the imperialist occupation force in Afghanistan. Washington also poured hundreds of millions in aid into the country, including tens of millions of dollars to promote “democracy” and “civil society.” Using the conduit of the National Endowment for Democracy, Washington financed Kyrgyz opposition groups who also used a Freedom House printing press to prepare the 2005 “Tulip Revolution,” which overthrew the government of Askar Akayev and installed Kurman Bakiyev as president.12 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_12#foo tnote_12) Bakiyev in turn was overthrown in 2010 by oppositionists feeding off discontent over the U.S. base and endemic government corruption.
In Georgia, the U.S. engineered the so-called “Rose Revolution” in November 2003 to oust the government of former Soviet foreign minister Eduard Shevardnadze, using a network of U.S.-funded “non-governmental organizations” (NGOs) and U.S.-trained operatives from Serbia who had organized the overthrow of Slobodan Milosevic in 2000. Shevardnadze’s replacement, U.S.-educated Mikheil Saakashvili (who got an advanced law degree from Columbia University on a State Department scholarship), was backed by financier George Soros, whose empire of “Open Society” NGOs was also active in Ukraine in 2004 and again in 2013-14. Having taken power in a coup, Saakashvili soon applied for Georgian membership in NATO.
In 2008, Saakashvili set off hostilities and eventually a five-day war with Russia by military provocations in the pro-Russian enclaves of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, where Russian peacekeeping troops had been stationed since Georgia tried to suppress revolts by the local population in 1991-92. In response to Georgian attacks, Moscow dispatched Russian troops who drove out the invaders, but then continued on into Georgia in what became a reactionary Russo-Georgian war. But even NATO officials and observers of the OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) blamed Georgia for starting the conflict, hoping to get NATO to intervene and fast-track its application for membership in the imperialist military alliance. Far from being expansionist, the Russian military action was essentially defensive.
So in talking about an imperialist power that exploits Central Asian and Caucasian semi-colonies, reaping super-profits by exporting capital to exploit their natural resources, intervening with massive financing to influence local politics, organizing coups and maintaining military bases, who has done that in the post-Soviet period is not Russia but the United States. Certainly Russia’s capitalist rulers seek to dominate the geopolitical space around their reduced domain and to lord it over submissive weaker states. Putin clearly dreams of doing so. But at present Russia can only ward off the attacks of aggressive U.S. imperialism and its NATO imperialist allies who, sometimes through regional puppets, are determined to smash any challenge to their global hegemony.



U.S. imperialists also engineered 2003 “Rose Revolution” in Georgia, installing Mikheil Saakashvili as puppet president, who in 2008 launched attack on pro-Russian enclaves of Abakhazia and South Ossetia, hoping to spur membership in NATO. (Photo: Shakh Alvazov/AP)
Russia as a Transitional Capitalist Country and Regional Power

Contrary to the social-democratic purveyors of imperialist propaganda against “Russian imperialism,” Lenin did not divide the world exclusively into imperialists and colonies or semi-colonies. In his pamphlet on Imperialism, the Bolshevik leader referred in several places to “non-colonial and semi-colonial countries” (such as Persia, China and Turkey), to “a number of transitional forms of state dependence” including Argentina (“almost a British commercial colony”) and Portugal (“a British protectorate”), and more generally to “the transitional forms which are to be found in all spheres of nature and society.” His point was that they are all “links in the chain of operations of world finance capital,” part of “a general system,” imperialism.
Russia today is such a transitional capitalist country, neither a semi-colony nor an imperialist state – not yet. Another example of an intermediate capitalist country is Greece.13 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_13#foo tnote_13) Geopolitically Russia is a regional power with imperial ambitions. It’s not unique. South Africa, both under the apartheid regime and now under black capitalist neo-apartheid, has sought to control the southern parts of the African continent. Even larger semi-colonial countries can play this role: Iran under the shah and Khomeini and his heirs has sought to dominate “its” region, including the “Persian” Gulf statelets. Brazil acts as a sheriff for Yankee imperialism in the Caribbean, supplying mercenary troops for the U.S./U.N. occupation of Haiti. Putin’s Russia plays hardball with Ukraine over gas supplies and prices? For decades Brazil imposed below-cost payments to Paraguay for electricity from the Iguazu Falls.
Marxists oppose the imperial and great power ambitions of such regional powers while concentrating our fire on the real imperialists who like to carry out their aggression posing as defenders of human rights, democracy and the like. Woodrow Wilson did so in the first imperialist world war, the “democratic” imperialists did so in World War II, Bill Clinton did so in twice attacking Serbia, and today liberal U.S. Democrat Barack Obama, French “socialist” François Hollande and British Tory David Cameron sound the same theme in sponsoring Islamist “ethnic cleansers” in Syria and Nazi pogromists in Ukraine. Today, the main threat to working people in the clash over Ukraine is the imperialist-backed junta of ethnic-nationalist fascists and free-market rightists in Kiev, not some “Russian imperialism.”
So what about the claims of Russian aggression against “poor little Ukraine”? In the first place, Putin’s incorporation of Crimea was able to take place without firing a shot because it had the overwhelming, enthusiastic support of the local population. Crimea was historically part of Russia and the large majority of its population culturally Russian, and it was “gifted” to Ukraine only in 1954 by Nikita Khrushchev. The administrative change made little difference to people at the time as Ukraine and the Russian republic were part of a single state, the Soviet Union. Residents have continued to identify with Russia in part because of the economic dominance of the peninsula by the Russian Black Fleet base at Sevastopol, and because many in the 95% Russian-speaking population (including ethnic Russians and ethnic Ukrainians) are army and navy veterans.
The Internationalist Group and League for the Fourth International supported the self-determination of Crimea and its joining the Russian Federation. Russia’s military action, far from being an act of aggression, facilitated the exercise of this democratic right in repudiation of the imperialist-backed Ukrainian-nationalist Kiev junta, which is hostile to (and despised by) the population of Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine. Russian intervention was also a defensive move to forestall military action by a hostile, NATO-backed Ukraine to seize Sevastopol. This is not only home port to the Black Sea Fleet, but is vital for Russian exports because it dominates access to Russia’s only major warm water port (which doesn’t freeze in winter), Novorossiysk. If NATO ever got control of Sevastopol they would use it to strangle Russia economically.



As for all the talk of the Russian bear gobbling up southeastern Ukraine, this is crude Cold War fear-mongering. That would result in a rump Ukrainian state dominated by a virulently anti-Russian nationalist government based in western Ukraine through which most of the 12 pipelines carrying Russia gas to Europe run. They could be turned off in a flash, and while Russia has now opened the Nord Stream pipeline under the Baltic Sea, this can only carry a fraction of Russian gas exports to Europe. Moreover, the population of eastern Ukraine is more mixed than in Crimea, with a strong minority of native Ukrainian speakers. A Russian takeover (as opposed to self-rule) would doubtless face endless Ukrainian-nationalist attacks. In one of its few lucid moments, the New York Times (13 May) recognized this, editorializing:
“Mr. Putin has given every indication that his real goal is not to annex any more Ukrainian territory but to transform Ukraine into a federation under a weak and neutral Kiev government permanently dependent on Russia.”
What the most aggressive imperialist warmongers want, in contrast, is a Ukraine dependent on the West which would be a permanent military threat to Russia. Such a configuration would inexorably point to war. Provocations by Ukrainian ultra-rightists, or others, would be unpreventable. No “peace” arrangements could avert that danger, so that nuclear deterrence would be back, and with it the doctrine of “Mutually Assured Destruction.” The Pentagon understands this well, which is why it has so far not acted on Ukrainian (or Georgian) requests to join NATO. The Kremlin even more so sees this perilous scenario on the horizon, and has moved to avert it.
Ukraine: Neo-Colony of Post-Soviet Russia?

Aside from the Cold War anti-Russian propaganda, there remains the question of Ukraine’s relationship to Russia: under the tsarist empire, in the Soviet Union, and since the destruction of the USSR and restoration of capitalism. Is it true, as the American ISO claims, that Russia is “Ukraine’s past and present imperial overlord”? This “captive nations” refrain is definitely the view of the leaders of the Kiev junta, “prime minister” Arseniy Yatsenyuk and “president” Oleksandr Turchynov and Ukrainian nationalists generally who justify the military assault on eastern Ukraine with the claim that they are fighting to throw off the Russian imperial yoke (even as they seek to become a semi-colony of the imperialist European Union).
Ukraine was certainly an oppressed nation under tsarism, one of many in the Romanovs’ “prison house of peoples.” Ukrainian culture was persecuted and the Ukrainian language was banned from the schools from 1804 on. In addition, by the late 1800s Ukraine was home to 20% of all European Jews, who were beset by tsarist repression and pogroms, leading many to flee Ukraine. But many remained and Ukrainian Jews played a prominent role in the socialist movement, one of the reasons for the Odessa pogrom by tsarist Black Hundreds at the height of the 1905 Russian Revolution.
We have noted how during the Civil War following the 1917 October Revolution, Lenin and Trotsky united Ukrainian and Russian Bolsheviks and leftward-moving Ukrainian nationalists in a single Communist Party. A short-lived Donetsk—Krivoy Rog soviet republic in the east was integrated into the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic, with its capital in Kharkiv. In his speech to the Russian parliament over Crimea, Putin complained: “After the revolution, the Bolsheviks, for a number of reasons – may God judge them – added large sections of the historical South of Russia to the Republic of Ukraine. This was done with no consideration for the ethnic make-up of the population” (RT, 19 March). Russian nationalists blame Trotsky for this, which was key to creating a multi-national Ukraine. Ethnic homogeneity is a chauvinist program.
In the early years of Soviet Russia, the Bolsheviks followed a policy of “korenizatsiia,” or indigenization, promoting the use and development of native languages in non-Russian areas of the USSR. The use of Ukrainian was encouraged in the government and schools. But as part of Stalin’s nationalist dogma of building “socialism in one country,” an aggressive campaign of Russification was launched: in 1929 Ukrainian intellectuals were arrested; a few years later Ukrainian instruction in the schools was banned and newspapers switched to Russian. In addition, there was the terrible toll of forced collectivization, in which several million died in the 1932-33 famine. And, as Trotsky noted, Stalin’s bloody purges of Communists in the late 1930s hit the Ukrainian CP harder than anywhere.
This was not the entire story of Ukraine’s history in the Soviet Union, however. From the 1930s on, eastern Ukraine became the industrial powerhouse of the USSR. Following former Ukrainian party chief Nikita Khrushchev’s 1954 accession to power in Moscow, language policy was loosened and Ukrainian was once again used in schools and media, although Russian was still prevalent as was repression of all dissidents – pro- and anti-socialist alike. Similarly under Ukrainian Leonid Brezhnev, who succeeded Khrushchev in the Kremlin from 1964 to 1982. Incomes and supplies of consumer goods rose and by 1991, living standards in Ukraine were slightly higher than in the Russian republic. Then counterrevolution devastated the economy and incomes fell by up to two-thirds. Capitalism threw millions of Ukrainians into poverty.
Today incomes are much higher in Russia than in Ukraine: pensions in Russia are double those in Ukraine (one reason why even ethnic Ukrainians voted for Crimea to join Russia). This is mainly due to Russia’s boom in oil and gas production and the international rise of energy prices. Yet despite all the propaganda about Russian use of natural gas to “blackmail” Ukraine, even after prices of Russian gas to Ukraine were more than doubled in 2006, the average price ($130 per thousand cubic meters) was barely 40% of that charged to Germany ($320/mcm).14 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_14#foo tnote_14) Far from extracting superprofits from gas sales to Ukraine, Russia has greatly subsidized Ukrainian industry and consumers in order to keep the country friendly, while Ukraine has periodically used its control of the pipelines and storage facilities to siphon off huge quantities of gas.15 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_15#foo tnote_15)
The other major difference between the Ukraine and Russian economies is the role of the “oligarchs.” In both countries, the demise of the socialized economy was marked by wholesale looting, as privatized enterprises were handed out to cronies for a pittance. This is typical of the formation of a new capitalist class, which almost always is the result of state promotion. The difference between Russia and Ukraine is that, beginning in 2000 Putin clawed back some of the ill-gotten gains, beefed up state-owned strategic sectors and brought the capitalist boyars (princes) to heel, with some fleeing to exile (Berezovsky, Gusinsky) and others jailed (Khodorkovsky). In Ukraine, the looting never stopped, and the oligarchs have continued to have free rein, no matter who was president.
Russian companies have limited clout in Ukraine, as “pro-Russian” and “pro-Ukrainian” oligarchs have united to keep their richer Russian cousins out. There has been a tug-of-war over oil refineries, with the Russian company Tatneft ousted at gunpoint from the largest plant (Keremenchug) in 2007, while a court recently seized a smaller Odessa refinery which had gone back and forth between Russian and Ukrainian ownership. The largest foreign-owned refinery today (Kherson) belongs to the Kazakh state oil company. Russian firms have also been largely excluded from the steel industry: when the largest mill, Kryvorizhstal, was privatized in 2004, the Russian company Severstal was excluded, and the initial award to eastern Ukrainian steel baron Rinat Akhmetov was reversed on presidential orders. The plant was then sold to Arcelor Mittal Steel with a loan from Citigroup. In 2010 the government awarded the second largest steel complex, the Ilyich Steel and Iron Works, to Akhmetov in order to keep Russian investors out.14 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_14#foo tnote_14)



Ukraine a semi-colony of Russia? Ukraine does not have typical semi-colonial economy based on resource extraction but is a heavily industrialized country, the tenth-largest arms exporter and tenth-largest steel producer in the world. (Top) Russian R-36 intercontinental ballistic missile launcher and (bottom) Antonov 124 cargo plane, both made in Ukraine and sold mainly to Russia.
Ukraine does not have a typical semi-colonial economy based on resource extraction. It is heavily industrialized and is the tenth largest arms exporter in the world (and in 2012 the fourth-largest), ahead of Israel and Sweden, producing not only light arms but a full range of heavy weaponry including tanks.17 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_17#foo tnote_17) Ukraine is also the tenth largest steel producer in the world.18 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_18#foo tnote_18) And contrary to the news reports about a “rust belt,” heavy industry in eastern Ukraine has revived somewhat, while light manufacturing plants in the west have closed due to the competition of cheaper imports. The reality is that Russia has been a main customer of the Ukrainian iron, steel, metal and weapons plants. Ukraine’s aircraft industry based in Kiev and Kharkov works in close collaboration with Russian plants in Samara and Voronezh.
People in eastern Ukraine are well aware that if the country swings into the European Union orbit, most of this industry would be destroyed, as the U.S. and European capitalists snap up a few choice morsels and the workers are condemned to unemployment.
Overall Ukraine, like Russia, is an intermediate, transitional capitalist country, albeit one that is still mired in post-counterrevolution economic malaise and is far weaker militarily. But while workers’ wages and income levels are at poverty levels, that is not because of superexploitaiton by Russia. It is centrally because Ukraine’s capitalist rulers have growth filthy rich by looting the country’s riches. In fact, many Ukrainian oligarchs have used their accumulated wealth to buy up foreign companies. Thus in addition to Sergei Taruta who owns major steel mills in Ukraine, Poland and Hungary, Ihor Kolomoyski’s Privat Group controls banks, airlines, oil refineries, iron and steel mills, ferroalloy plants in Ukraine, Romania, Poland, Georgia and Russia, and Australian Consolidated Minerals which has 10% of global manganese production. Not to mention pipe magnate Viktor Pinchuk and “chocolate king” Petro Poroshenko, among others.
The issue of language has been a lightning rod for anti-Russian Ukrainian nationalist sentiment. This is in large part because of the large ethnic Russian population in the east and south, much of which has little allegiance to the Ukrainian state, but just as importantly because the actual number of Russian speakers is far greater. While 30% of the population give Russian as their native language, 46% say they speak Russian at home, over half say it is their everyday language and Russian is the most common language in media and business. Moreover, in the central Ukrainian regions, a large percentage speak Surzhyk, with a mixture of Ukrainian and Russian vocabulary, so that “pure” Ukrainian is the dominant language only in the west. Thus the ethnic nationalists are trying to impose the use of Ukrainian on a reluctant population.
The decision by the Ukrainian Rada (Supreme Council) on the day after the coup to eliminate the official status of the Russian language in eastern Ukraine was no fluke. Not only the fascists but even the “moderate” nationalist bourgeois parties voted for this last fall. It is common when nationalist movements gain power that they seek to impose a national language, and Ukrainian nationalists are vexed by the fact that Russian remains the predominant language. Marxist internationalists, in contrast, oppose the imposition of official languages or state privilege for any language.19 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_19#foo tnote_19) Demands that all Ukrainian citizens must speak Ukrainian, that official business and school instruction must be in Ukrainian, paralleling Estonia and Latvia, are discriminatory and chauvinist, and we oppose them just as we oppose the French-language Law 101 in Quebec that seeks to legislate the use of French by English-speakers and immigrants.20 (http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html#footnote_20#foo tnote_20)
In sum, the relation of Russia and Ukraine today is not one of imperial overlord and semi-colonial vassal but of two intermediate level capitalist states, notwithstanding differences in their relative power. Canada and the United States are both imperialist states, and while the U.S. is far more powerful, there is no qualitative difference between them. Marxists must take into account the long history of Ukrainian oppression at the hands of the tsarist Russian Empire and the Great Russian Stalinist chauvinists, but Ukrainian anti-Russian nationalism is no less reactionary (and like all nationalism, bourgeois). While also combating Russian nationalism in eastern Ukraine, Trotskyists fight for proletarian internationalism against all the capitalist exploiters, and particularly against the imperialists, their Ukrainian bourgeois puppets and fascist attack dogs.

Hrafn
23rd August 2014, 22:41
Tl;dr

Babeu, that is way too long and poorly formatted to read.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
23rd August 2014, 22:50
The original is at http://www.internationalist.org/bugbearrussianimperialism1405.html

Tim Cornelis
24th August 2014, 00:24
tl;dr: Spart moonbats apologise for Russian imperialism and extreme right conquest of power. Fortunately, they have, on average, 1.7 members per country, so their influence is not really substantial. Move along, nothing to see.

ckaihatsu
18th October 2016, 13:42
Donetsk People’s Republic commander assassinated

By staff

Minneapolis, MN - Ukrainian Special Forces assassinated Arsen Pavlov, a hero of the Donbass region’s fight against domination by the Ukraine, on Oct. 16. A bomb detonated in the elevator of his apartment building killed Pavlov, a battalion commander who is also known by his call name “Motorola”. The Donetsk Ministry of Defense labeled this an act of terrorism by the Ukraine government.

Though targeted and claimed dead by the Ukrainian media dozens of times over the last two years, Pavlov recently completed a security assignment in Lugansk People’s Republic in order to suppress an alleged attempt to overthrow the government there.

In February of 2014 the Ukraine government was toppled by a neo-Nazi led coup, installing a billionaire as president. The coup was financed and supported by the U.S. government through both non-governmental organizations and armed groups. Many of the U.S.-backed groups are openly fascist, targeting trade unionists and killing leftists and ethnic minorities.

In response to the fascist coup in the capital of Kiev, the regions on the Russian border, Donbass and Lugansk, fought for independence and established People’s Republics in which people have a real voice. Russia supports self-determination for the two regions following the U.S. and NATO backed coup. Russia would like to see a legitimate government in the Ukraine and normalize relations with their neighbor.

The Ukraine is rich in natural resources; the U.S. and NATO are attempting to control the course of the Ukraine. U.S. and European corporations want to move in and take the profits back to their banks. It is important to follow the developments emerging from this region as it has implications in the fight against imperialism, the self-determination of nations, and the growing frictions between imperialist powers.

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