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exeexe
28th July 2014, 01:39
Guilt is used as a tool, rather than a weapon against the self. They use it to remind themselves to do better the next time

Can someone explain what this means? You dont have to have seen the movie to understand what this is about since its a general psychological theory. Well if theory is the correct word anyways ..

Five Year Plan
28th July 2014, 01:55
It doesn't make much sense to me, out of context at least. It seems to be talking about self-imposed guilt about not trying hard enough being used to encourage better outcomes in the future?

exeexe
28th July 2014, 02:31
Maybe a little context is needed. Its used on a fraction (class) of producers who are being taught to produce for everyone but themselves.

What i understand is that you can use guilt as a tool to improve in the future. (the engineer made a faulty calculation and the bridge collapsed because of this and 3 people was killed, in the future the engineer will pay more attention to his calculations). But how can guilt be used as a weapon against the self?

Five Year Plan
28th July 2014, 02:34
If you allow guilt to become all-consuming and paralyzing, then it becomes a weapon used against one's self, rather than a boost for future success.

exeexe
28th July 2014, 03:20
Aah yes i see if the guilt becomes paralysing

Dean
28th July 2014, 06:26
Maybe, but you still need more info to be sure. You don't know what "the self" means, i.e. to attack the self are you guilting someone into inaction such that they view their own works as synonymous with their previous outcome they feel guilt over, or it is talking about guilt that simply accumulates over time, without resolution and causes depression?

Where did you encounter this quote?

exeexe
28th July 2014, 15:01
The self:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_self

I wanted to read more about the movie after i saw it and found the quote here:
http://www.justcor.com/divergent/

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
28th July 2014, 15:06
I didn't feel that there was any intentional philosophical content in that movie so I think this quote was probably intended to just sound as if it meant something rather than actually meaning something.