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Left Voice
26th July 2014, 01:46
I just finished watching this film and while I enjoyed it overall, I have been left somewhat confused about its overall message.

While it would be churlish to dismiss mental health care as inherently reactionary (especially in cases where care is needed, can actually be provided, or is actively sought), its fair to say that the protagonist of this films was not a person of this category. She seemed to be merely a person who actively opposed established norms and sensibilities. Indeed, it was set in the late 60s when paranoia about anything that defied the established social norms was rife. While it suggests that she was committed due to an attempted suicide, that does not appear to be the reason for her continued presence in the hospital. The hospital seemed to be trying to turn her into a 'normal person' who would pursue a normal life, and she understandably rebelled against such reactionary intentions.

It seemed to raise interesting questions about what normality is. Who decides if somebody is not normal? Is anybody opposes established social sensibilities 'abnormal'? Is the role of mental health care to mould people into good, docile citizens? The protagonist seemed to be unable to leave until she followed the hospital's procedures like a good girl, told them what they wanted so they'd leave her alone. I think a scene in the film describes a guy who was committed because he claimed to see 'purple people'. They let him because he told them he no longer saw the purple people. He still did, but he just told them what they wanted to hear. Interesting point about exactly what the intent of 'rehabilitation' is in such circumstances when their illness is essentially a 'thought crime'.

And yet, the movie seemed to conclude in a manner that betrays this point. Basically concluding that she's a 'spoilt little girl', she is rehabilitated into society once she essentially accepts society's norms, gets sensible employment, lives up to her bourgeois parents expectation and abandons her contradictions with society.

I understand that the movie is based on an autobiographical book so there may not necessarily be an overarching point behind the film, but the overall conclusion of the film doesn't sit well with me after the interesting points that it attempts to raise.

Thoughts? Especially from those a little more informed about mental health care than I.

LiaSofia
26th July 2014, 02:04
I saw the film, thought it was alright, and didn't analyse it that much. You raised some interesting points though.

I think the purpose of mental health care today is to intervene when a) a person asks for help because a problem is interfering with their quality of life or b) a person's behaviour poses danger to themselves or others.

Having said that, there is a money-making industry built around mental health issues so it is now in psychiatrists' interests to prescribe medication that isn't always needed. I'll have to look into it more, but I remember reading about a case where a diagnosis was invented in order to sell a particular drug.

Are you familiar with the anti-psychiatry movement of the 60s? R.D. Laing is an interesting person to read about.

Depardieu
31st July 2014, 07:35
im pretty sure that the protagonist has some kind of personality disorder, probably borlerline. which is a very real and very serious thing. im sure that it could be argued that such conditions are determined by social factors but thats not for me to say. i think the movie really means to look at and critique the mental healthcare system then and now. also entertainment and money tbh. it's a major hollywood production

Red Economist
31st July 2014, 09:51
It seemed to raise interesting questions about what normality is. Who decides if somebody is not normal? Is anybody opposes established social sensibilities 'abnormal'? Is the role of mental health care to mould people into good, docile citizens?

I haven't seen the film, but I've had depression and a number of low-level and persistent mental health problems for a number of years; I have avoided getting help somewhat out of mixture of shame, principle and knowing that it ultimately comes down to me. So I'd want to share some stuff for what it's worth.

There are some pretty serious philosophical and political issues regarding mental health as you illustrate and the uncomfortable truth is that most of the distinctions are 'man-made'; normality is relative to what kind of society you're in and 'sanity' is too; but there are some fundamental human needs as well, and it's a question of how far our definition of sanity has strayed from these needs when society gets reallly f**ked up. so as a general rule if your happy and not hurting anyone or yourself, your probably ok about 90% of the time. the other 10% is when the 'rules' just break down and you end up in bizzare situations where one rule says do X and another rule says to do the exact opposite and this is when 'mental illness' kicks in because you can't figure it out.

If you're interested, I'd recommend Erich Fromm's The Sane Society which discusses these issues. He points out that psycharity is often focused on dealing with a person's "social dysfunction" rather than whether the society itself is suited to satisfying human psychological needs. So in extreme cases, it can become thought-control but it really depends on the kind of person who is treating you and the situation you're in.