Insurrectionary communism?

[flaming bolshevik]

So I've been thinking about if it's possible and I've come to the conclusion that it is and I'd like your thoughts on it.

Start communes and such to get people used to communism
Draw support from unions through strikes and such.
Have some form of DotP in the communes
only attack fascists in self defense.

That's the extent of my thoughts
feel free to add to/critique it.

[Zoroaster]

This sounds like a weird mix of Communisation and Rosa Luxemburg's mass strike.

However, insurrections haven't worked out to well in the past.

From "Categories of Revolutionary Military Policy".
4. The Leninist-Komintern Insurrectionary Strategy.
First implemented in October 1917 and meticulously theorized thereafter (notably in the collective work Armed Insurrection signed “Neuberg”), this was the strategy adopted by the Communist parties in the 1920s and 30s. It integrates and systematizes the analyses of Marx and Engels (and the lessons of experiences like 1905) by bestowing a central role on the vanguard Party which will work to bring together the elements necessary for a successful revolution (raising the revolutionary consciousness of the masses, political and military organization of the masses notably by creating a Red Guard, training and equipping shock troops and using these instead of barricades, setting up an insurrectionary headquarters, drafting battle plans, choosing the right time to strike, etc.). This strategy met with major failures in Germany (1923), China (1927), Asturia (1934), Brazil (1935), and elsewhere.

[consuming negativity]

So I've been thinking about if it's possible and I've come to the conclusion that it is and I'd like your thoughts on it.

Start communes and such to get people used to communism
Draw support from unions through strikes and such.
Have some form of DotP in the communes
only attack fascists in self defense.

That's the extent of my thoughts
feel free to add to/critique it.

This is Stalinism without the revolution beforehand.

"Shit, we can't have global revolution, so I guess we'll just be socialists separate from but still under the capitalist megastructure."

[flaming bolshevik]

To communer
I was thinking that the insurrection would be a step towards the revolution since it might inspire movements in other countries and ultimately all the proletariat would be accepting of it that it ends up smashing capitalism.
I don't really have this figured out yet but yeah.

[Creative Destruction]

So I've been thinking about if it's possible and I've come to the conclusion that it is and I'd like your thoughts on it.

Start communes and such to get people used to communism
Draw support from unions through strikes and such.
Have some form of DotP in the communes
only attack fascists in self defense.

That's the extent of my thoughts
feel free to add to/critique it.

Starting communes wouldn't "get people used to communism" because a communist commune cannot exist in a capitalist system, since communism is the state of society where there is no state and the means of production have been fully socialized. Communes are not the generalized socialization of the means of production and they still operate within a state structure.

Similarly, the dictatorship of the proletariat is generalized class rule: it is the act of the working class suppressing the capitalist class and preparing society for the abolition of the class structure.

I'm also unsure of "attacking fascists in self defense". Keeping initial actions on the defensive is fine in the beginning, but once a revolution has furthered, I'd feel like it would be necessary to be on the offense regarding forces trying to peel back the progress and restore capitalism. To tread into military cliche land, the best defense is a good offense... at least, at that stage.

[bcbm]

this sounds like a weird rehash of 'the coming insurrection. (http://tarnac9.wordpress.com/texts/the-coming-insurrection/)' though i don't really see where the insurrection part is here. also, what unions?

[flaming bolshevik]

To bcbm
The insurrection part would be like, small paramilitary groups launching strikes on the military, etc while setting up communes or transferring the means of production to the local workers.

[flaming bolshevik]

As for unions, we'd just draw support from them.

[bcbm]

To bcbm
The insurrection part would be like, small paramilitary groups launching strikes on the military, etc while setting up communes or transferring the means of production to the local workers.

in any first world nation your groups would be jailed or dead pretty much immediately, especially if they are setting up permanent bases. 'transferring...local workrs' doesnt really mean anything. they will have control of the local walmart?


As for unions, we'd just draw support from them. my point was they dont exist. and the one that do are business unions that will snitch you out before you're out of the building.

[flaming bolshevik]

That makes sense, thanks.