Why can't we post.....

[Y2A]

Ok, I understand the reasoning behind not letting us post in the political forums aside from this one but why is it that we can not post in the other non-politcal forums such as "chit chat", "science", etc...???

And also, why can't we make polls???

[Autarky]

I think it was tried a while ago. Needless to say it was a failure :)

[Y2A]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 07:38 AM
I think it was tried a while ago. Needless to say it was a failure :)
I'm not talking about political forums though, just the non-political ones. And what's the deal with not allowing polls???

[Autarky]

Originally posted by Y2A+Feb 1 2004, 07:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Y2A @ Feb 1 2004, 07:39 AM)
[email protected] 1 2004, 07:38 AM
I think it was tried a while ago. Needless to say it was a failure :)
I&#39;m not talking about political forums though, just the non-political ones. And what&#39;s the deal with not allowing polls??? [/b]
That&#39;s what I&#39;m talking about. Capitalists were allowed to post in Chit chat/history etc.

Something bad must have happened.

[Valishin]

What, someone informed the 12 year old socialist circle jerk of the realities of the adult world?

[Zanzibar]

Meh, they&#39;ll all be killed in the revolution anyway*


*by killed in the revolution I mean given lolly pops and candy sometime next year.

[redstar2000]

There is a technical reason and a practical reason.

The technical reason: A new user group would have to be created--call it"limited restricted"--in order that some cappies could post in Chit-Chat or Science...and it would then have to be decided who to include in that group.

It could be done...but it&#39;s "a pain in the ass" and not felt to be worth the effort.

The practical reason: when cappies were allowed to post in other forums (which was tried), they turned them into political forums.

If they were allowed to post in Science, for example, we&#39;d end up with a lot of crap about &#39;evolutionary psychology" and why our "selfish genes" "prove" that "communism will never work".

We don&#39;t need that.

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[Hegemonicretribution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 08:01 AM
What, someone informed the 12 year old socialist circle jerk of the realities of the adult world?
Every thread was politically minded. Chat and friendly discussion became impossible. History I think would be as hottly debated as any area.

Well if they are 12 year olds some are reading pretty big books :P

[Y2A]

The practical reason: when cappies were allowed to post in other forums (which was tried), they turned them into political forums.

Yes but that was the "cappies" of the past, before I and the other "cappies" arrived. The only reason I want to post on the other boards is because it gets to damn borring being restricted to a single board. And also you have still not explained why we are not even allowed to make polls.

[BOZG]

Nobody can make polls as far as I know in here. The problem would be that there is the possibility that the thread could be flooded with "Who likes capitalism/communism? and other assorted polls constantly. I&#39;m not saying the restricted members here now would do this but people come and go on this site, you can get restricted members who&#39; argue their point coherently and without flaming but at the same time you get idiots who just come to flood and we cannot take that risk. The same applies to why you&#39;re not being allowed into the non-political forums. Unfortunately unless we have mods here 24/7 constantly monitoring every post, we sometimes have to have blanket rules.

[Ortega]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 10:42 AM

The practical reason: when cappies were allowed to post in other forums (which was tried), they turned them into political forums.

Yes but that was the "cappies" of the past, before I and the other "cappies" arrived. The only reason I want to post on the other boards is because it gets to damn borring being restricted to a single board. And also you have still not explained why we are not even allowed to make polls.
Y2A, you seem like a reasonable enough guy, but most of the others are "cappies," in the "cappies of the past" sense...

If you were to be allowed to post in Science and Chit Chat, there would be an uproar and everyone else would soon enough be able to as well. Sorry, man, but there really can&#39;t exceptions to the rule, because the vast majority of "cappies" would flood the rest of the board.

You&#39;re either caged or you&#39;re not, basically. No middle ground, and I highly doubt that there ever will be...

[monkeydust]

I agree Y2A, you seem to be reasonable, I don&#39;t think you&#39;d spam the other boards. However, you probably notice that there are a lot of other, less reasonable capitalists, such as A Pict or Stormin Norman who would simply turn any scientific discussion into Spam against Left-wingers. Some of these people seem intent to slag off us left-wingers.

If it was my decision I&#39;d allow it, but as Red Star said it&#39;s a pain in the ass to do so, I guess it would be down to Malte and the Admin&#39;s to decide if another group type should be created.

[The Children of the Revolution]

I started a thread in the CC devoted to this very issue&#33;&#33;

I would like to see some "cappies" allowed to post in my favourite forum, the Science / Environment one. All too often I start a thread and it gets buried because there is no debate, everyone immediately reaches a consensus. I would be willing to take on the extra workload, however much it is.

Obviously if "cappies" misuse their newfound "freedom" then the idea will be scrapped...

But I&#39;d support it for sure.

[Professor Moneybags]

Only false philosophies and bad ideas need "protecting" from criticism.

You can simply ban any flamers who come here to spam, so what&#39;s the problem ?

[BuyOurEverything]

You can simply ban any flamers who come here to spam, so what&#39;s the problem ?

There&#39;s often a fine line between flamers who come here to spam and idiots who come here for what they consider &#39;debate.&#39;

Anyways, I agree with Y2A on this one. I believe that certain capitalists should be allowed to post in science and the like. The worst that could happen is that we would need to restrict them again.

[synthesis]

Only false philosophies and bad ideas need "protecting" from criticism.

Capitalist forums, as well as all forums with one political ideology, have sections specifically designated for their opposition as well. Some don&#39;t, but some socialist forums let their opposition roam free as well.

In other words, it has nothing to do with protecting our ideas but rather protecting rational, intra-ideological discussion.

[Le Libérer]

Redstar2000, as usual you are precise and to the point. Y2A, this forum isnt a democracy. I understand that must be an agonizing reality to you.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Frankly, I want to have as little to do with you social chauvinists as possible. :P

[LuZhiming]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 08:03 PM
In other words, it has nothing to do with protecting our ideas but rather protecting rational, intra-ideological discussion.
And condemning rational, healthy debate.

[synthesis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 08:45 PM
And condemning rational, healthy debate.
Why is that?

[Hegemonicretribution]

I would advocate that a couple be unrestricted for alittle whie, on the same basis as stalinists are. I would say that new members should be locked here initially before being allowed out.

[bad-juju]

If they were allowed to post in Science, for example, we&#39;d end up with a lot of crap about &#39;evolutionary psychology" and why our "selfish genes" "prove" that "communism will never work".


I wanna post about how nuclear fusion can save the world, end poverty for everyone and make every modern form of government obsolete. Can I do that?

[/QUOTE]Y2A, this forum isnt a democracy. I understand that must be an agonizing reality to you. [QUOTE]

Hahaha. Thank you.

One thing I must say, though. Thank you, Castro for providing with an education that allows no grammar mistakes.

Bad Juju

[redstar2000]

I wanna post about how nuclear fusion can save the world, end poverty for everyone and make every modern form of government obsolete. Can I do that?

You can do it right here and now...if you like.

I can see grave difficulties with your thesis. But start a thread and I, at least, will be glad to discuss the matter.

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[Lardlad95]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 01:32 PM
There is a technical reason and a practical reason.

The technical reason: A new user group would have to be created--call it"limited restricted"--in order that some cappies could post in Chit-Chat or Science...and it would then have to be decided who to include in that group.

It could be done...but it&#39;s "a pain in the ass" and not felt to be worth the effort.

The practical reason: when cappies were allowed to post in other forums (which was tried), they turned them into political forums.

If they were allowed to post in Science, for example, we&#39;d end up with a lot of crap about &#39;evolutionary psychology" and why our "selfish genes" "prove" that "communism will never work".

We don&#39;t need that.

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A site about communist ideas
Yes I agree, I WOUL REALLY LIKE TO SEE Cappies participate in other forums. but they did turn everything into a cappie vs. commie debate...even in chit chat.

[Y2A]

Originally posted by Debora [email protected] 1 2004, 08:20 PM
Redstar2000, as usual you are precise and to the point. Y2A, this forum isnt a democracy. I understand that must be an agonizing reality to you.
What the hell are you talking about you little nerd???? I only asked why we can&#39;t post in the non-political forums, I did not demand anything.

[The Children of the Revolution]

Peace man, insulting members won&#39;t help your cause&#33;&#33;



You can do it right here and now...if you like.


Come on RedStar&#33; O.I. is crowded enough as it is&#33;&#33; We don&#39;t want Nuclear Fusion threads here too - there&#39;s one in the S/E forum&#33; (Well there was - about a month ago. But it got buried.) I&#39;m with "comrade" Y2A on this one. Even if he is a foul capitalist. :lol:

[Stapler]

Let them make polls, why not, I mean they did sign up. Chit chat appears to be mostly about child-rearing, are we trying to protect people from bad advice? Seems reasonable enough to me.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by The Children of the [email protected] 1 2004, 11:26 PM
Peace man, insulting members won&#39;t help your cause&#33;&#33;



You can do it right here and now...if you like.


Come on RedStar&#33; O.I. is crowded enough as it is&#33;&#33; We don&#39;t want Nuclear Fusion threads here too - there&#39;s one in the S/E forum&#33; (Well there was - about a month ago. But it got buried.) I&#39;m with "comrade" Y2A on this one. Even if he is a foul capitalist. :lol:
If any forum seems "crowded" to you. you can use your control panel to increase the number of threads displayed on a page (I have mine set to 30...which is usually enough to display all the active threads on one page).

I have no idea how objectively "foul" Y2A is...but that you are "with him" does not come as a great surprise to me.

In any event, I am "with Malte" on this issue 100 percent. I don&#39;t want the whole board cluttered up--or "fouled"--with bourgeois babble.

If you are passionately interested in wide-spread debate with capitalists, there are boards that feature that sort of thing. Y2A has even invited people from this board to join his board.

Be my guest.

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[The Children of the Revolution]

If any forum seems "crowded" to you. you can use your control panel to increase the number of threads displayed on a page (I have mine set to 30...which is usually enough to display all the active threads on one page).


I am well aware of this, but thanks for the information. You are a fountain of knowledge.



I have no idea how objectively "foul" Y2A is...but that you are "with him" does not come as a great surprise to me.


I meant no disrespect. But all capitalists are foul&#33; :lol: The fact that I want to argue with him about Nuclear Fusion and stuff obviously make me a foul capitalist too though. Doh. :(



I don&#39;t want the whole board cluttered up


RedStar, did you know that you can use your control panel to increase the number of threads displayed on a page? I usually have mine set to 50... My Controls are bigger than yours&#33;&#33; :P



Be my guest.


Heh heh heh, you mean "piss off and don&#39;t return&#33;" Nah, I like it here. The company is amusing.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 08:01 AM
What, someone informed the 12 year old socialist circle jerk of the realities of the adult world?
Ahahahahaha

very funny, nearly as funny as seeing you get restricted... one hopes anyway.

Well anyway sunshine, what makes you think were all 12? And even if I were Iwould have read more books and been smarter than you could ever hope to be.