7/9: Emergency Protest Against the Bombing of Gaza [Chicago]

[ckaihatsu]

7/9: Emergency Protest Against the Bombing of Gaza


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Emergency Protest:

No New War on Gaza!

Stop Israeli Collective Punishment of Palestinians!

Wed., July 9, 3:30 pm
Consulate General of Israel
500 W. Madison St.
Info: 773-463-0311

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Convened by Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP)-Chicago, and supported by:
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[Ele'ill]

Can you please stop making every single protest email call out you get into a thread it is nothing but spam/post count boosting.

1. just make 1 thread where you can dump all of your email call outs

2. don't make a BREAKING EMERGENCY MASS MOBILIZATION CALL OUT ACT NOW thread and then not give a shit about it after, you rarely give any kind of a report back in any of your threads and you dodge/get annoyed at conversation about it when people ask questions

[ckaihatsu]

Can you please stop making every single protest email call out you get into a thread it is nothing but spam/post count boosting.


Sorry, but if something is time-sensitive then it should have its own post with the upcoming date on it -- they'll be limited to the Upcoming Events section.





1. just make 1 thread where you can dump all of your email call outs


That would be a disservice to the timeliness of the various, different call-outs.





2. don't make a BREAKING EMERGENCY MASS MOBILIZATION CALL OUT ACT NOW thread and then not give a shit about it after, you rarely give any kind of a report back in any of your threads and you dodge/get annoyed at conversation about it when people ask questions


There often *isn't* a report after-the-fact, and just because I post a notice doesn't necessarily mean that I will / have attended it.

[Ele'ill]

Then how do you even know if the event/organizations involved wasn't extremely harmful and fucked up, why are you just posting email call outs that don't matter enough for you to follow up on

[ckaihatsu]

Then how do you even know if the event/organizations involved wasn't extremely harmful and fucked up,


So you're asking me to *guarantee* a certain outcome, within certain parameters, for each and every political event, in advance -- ??

Obviously that's beyond what *anyone* would be able to do. The organizations that plan these events are not the *controllers* of what every participant does, or might do.





why are you just posting email call outs that don't matter enough for you to follow up on


As I already mentioned, I follow-up where I can.

[Ele'ill]

So you're asking me to *guarantee* a certain outcome, within certain parameters, for each and every political event, in advance -- ??

No, I want you to give a brief (or hey, an in depth) analysis of your thoughts before and your thoughts after instead of literally copy pasting emails as threads.


Obviously that's beyond what *anyone* would be able to do. The organizations that plan these events are not the *controllers* of what every participant does, or might do.
This doesn't address what I said, it sidesteps it.






As I already mentioned, I follow-up where I can.

instead of making another thread for another protest call out just respond to any one of your other previous threads

[ckaihatsu]

No, I want you to give a brief (or hey, an in depth) analysis of your thoughts before and your thoughts after instead of literally copy pasting emails as threads.


I don't see what there *is* to analyze, usually -- there's a certain political importance and timeliness attached to these call-outs when they happen, and that's why they're co-sponsored by a coalition of leftist groups.

Usually the emails are able to provide appropriate information and even analysis around the circumstances that precipitate protests and mass mobilizations -- that's why I post them.

You may want to try over at Chicago Indymedia, chicago.indymedia.org, to possibly find what you're looking for.





This doesn't address what I said, it sidesteps it.




instead of making another thread for another protest call out just respond to any one of your other previous threads


If you're so concerned with getting more reports around any of these events you might *initiate* things and inquire in particular directions -- I'll be glad to respond to the extent of my own knowledge, for whatever that might be worth to you and the broader audience here.

[Ele'ill]

I don't see what there *is* to analyze, usually -- there's a certain political importance and timeliness attached to these call-outs when they happen, and that's why they're co-sponsored by a coalition of leftist groups.

There are hundreds of them every week. These are correlation without causation events.




Usually the emails are able to provide appropriate information and even analysis around the circumstances that precipitate protests and mass mobilizations -- that's why I post them.

Without any critical analysis into whether or not protest #999999 after 200 years of struggle has led to any actual successes is kind of important I would think, unless you're just looking to put your involvement and activist leadership within it onto a resume for future business ventures.



You may want to try over at Chicago Indymedia, chicago.indymedia.org (http://chicago.indymedia.org), to possibly find what you're looking for.

If you can't participate in the threads you create they are spam stop making them





If you're so concerned with getting more reports around any of these events you might *initiate* things and inquire in particular directions -- I'll be glad to respond to the extent of my own knowledge, for whatever that might be worth to you and the broader audience here.

That is what I have been doing recently in every one of your email spam threads and you have replied with nothing short of avoidance and defensiveness. It is not my responsibility to make sure that you are actually interested in the topics you are repeatedly posting about.

[ckaihatsu]

There are hundreds of them every week. These are correlation without causation events.


Or they're real-world manifestations of leftist political consciousness and even class struggle. Obviously I don't think they're flat-out *ignorable*.





Without any critical analysis into whether or not protest #999999 after 200 years of struggle has led to any actual successes is kind of important I would think, unless you're just looking to put your involvement and activist leadership within it onto a resume for future business ventures.


No, not the latter -- I think you'd find the answer to your concern in what's politically achieved (changed) afterwards. Such developments are usually noted in the news from the emails I post.





If you can't participate in the threads you create they are spam stop making them


Again, if you think discussion is appropriate there's nothing stopping you from doing that.





That is what I have been doing recently in every one of your email spam threads and you have replied with nothing short of avoidance and defensiveness.


I don't agree with your characterization here -- I've been quite responsive to you.





It is not my responsibility to make sure that you are actually interested in the topics you are repeatedly posting about.


These are not light topics -- the nature of left-wing political issues is such that it becomes immediately apparent where people stand, based on the content of their involvement.

[Ele'ill]

Or they're real-world manifestations of leftist political consciousness and even class struggle. Obviously I don't think they're flat-out *ignorable*. No, not the latter -- I think you'd find the answer to your concern in what's politically achieved (changed) afterwards. Such developments are usually noted in the news from the emails I post.

I'm not saying 'ignore people' I'm saying 'use critical thinking skills' so that when five people holding signs, tweeting, and face-booking, while standing outside a building somewhere in North Dakota get hailed as heroes for a government doing something somewhere else entirely we can:

1. question the correlation to improve tactics
2. question the motives of the organizations claiming responsibility and success

[ckaihatsu]

I'm not saying 'ignore people' I'm saying 'use critical thinking skills' so that when five people holding signs, tweeting, and face-booking, while standing outside a building somewhere in North Dakota get hailed as heroes for a government doing something somewhere else entirely we can:

1. question the correlation to improve tactics
2. question the motives of the organizations claiming responsibility and success


Okay, fair enough.

For the example you've just given I would not even pass that along since it wouldn't be relevant to a revolutionary leftist politics.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

I've pointed out to you before that your tendency to spam pretty much guarantees that no one ever actually reads these threads, so it's almost as if you don't post anything at all. The only responses your threads ever get are from people asking you to stop making them, doesn't that tell you something?

[ckaihatsu]

I've pointed out to you before that your tendency to spam pretty much guarantees that no one ever actually reads these threads, so it's almost as if you don't post anything at all. The only responses your threads ever get are from people asking you to stop making them, doesn't that tell you something?


That's a blatant mischaracterization, and your obvious bias skews your words towards meaninglessness.

[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

um what am I biased towards?

[Ele'ill]

hot dog eating elitists

[ckaihatsu]

um what am I biased towards?


I'm saying that your "criticism" is so over-the-top that it undermines your credibility for making any such statement -- you're summarily dismissing event postings (from me), and purporting an imaginary crowd that is somehow against event postings from me.

[PeoplesRepublics]

I can't believe I missed it, is there going protest soon

[ckaihatsu]

Thousands protest vicious Israeli attacks on Palestinians

By staff

http://www.fightbacknews.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/article-lead-photo/let-gaza-live.jpg

Chicago, IL - Several thousand Palestinians and their supporters rallied and marched here, July 9. This was the second such protest this week. Angered by Israel’s military assault on Gaza, this protest was even larger than the previous outpouring, which had been held to condemn the murder of Muhammad Abu Khdeir, who was burned alive by a vicious group of Israeli settlers.

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[ckaihatsu]

I can't believe I missed it, is there going protest soon


You may want to contact one or more of the organizations listed in the initial post.

[Sea]

Maye the poster of this thread has a botfly in their brain? TBH I think we should have some sympathy.