[Chicago] Saturday at 3--Emergency Protest, end collective punishment of Palestinians

[ckaihatsu]

[EmergencyResponseforUSAttackonIranorSyria] Saturday at 3--Emergency Protest to demand an end to collective punishment of Palestinians


The March 19th Anti-War Coalition urges you to join with other groups for--



Emergency Protest to Demand an End to Collective Punishment of Palestinians

Saturday, July 5
3-5PM

This will include a rally at Water Tower Place Park,
Michigan and Pearson, just north of Chicago Avenue,
not far from the Red Line Stop on Chicago Avenue
and a march south to Daley Plaza

In response to the tragic deaths of three Israeli youth, Israel has unfortunately engaged in the collective punishment of Palestinians. This includes heavily bombing the Gaza strip and raiding and attacking West Bank towns and villages. Several people have been arrested and killed, including children. 17-year-old Mohammad Abu Khdair was abducted, tortured, and killed by settlers over night.

Call for an end to Israel's collective punishment and violence against Palestinian men, women, and children.

Call on mainstream US media to stop its biased reporting, focusing on the Israeli youth killed and ignoring Palestinian youth killed. Demand fair and accurate coverage of the situation.

Call on the US government to condemn Israel's actions. Also, to end the U.S. funding of the Israeli government.

Stand up against Israel's violent occupation and apartheid.

[Ele'ill]

What is the overall strategy/goal, what is the hoped for outcome of this?

[ckaihatsu]

I'd be looking for a halt to the building of further Israeli settlements.

[Ele'ill]

Do you find that there is a disconnect between the call-outs, what actually happens, the goals relating to both of those, and optimism not readjusting to more realistic/manageable goals?

[ckaihatsu]

Do you find that there is a disconnect between the call-outs, what actually happens, the goals relating to both of those, and optimism not readjusting to more realistic/manageable goals?


Yes -- it's called 'the real world'.

[Ele'ill]

Yes -- it's called 'the real world'.

?

[BIXX]

I can't tell if I just didn't understand ckaihatsu's answer or if they didn't understand the question.

[ckaihatsu]

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I can't tell if I just didn't understand ckaihatsu's answer or if they didn't understand the question.


Here's to provide some general context....


Worldview Diagram

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[Ele'ill]

that context is more general than it was before I had no idea what you were talking about

[ckaihatsu]

Chicago Protests Collective Punishment of Palestinians

On YouTube at:
http://youtu.be/mqVA_F1GwbE

Also archived at:
laborbeat.org

Several hundred protesters drawn from a variety of organizations gathered at Chicago’s Water Tower Park on Michigan Avenue on July 5, 2014. Their purpose was to demand an end to Israel’s collective punishment of Palestinians and to call for fair and accurate reporting by the media of violence against Palestinian youth. These ongoing issues, normally not acknowledged by U.S. corporate media, in this last week burst onto the 5pm news hour due to the discovery of the bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens, and the immediate collective punishment killing of an innocent Palestinian 16-year-old by right-wing Israelis, plus heavy bombing of Gaza strip and West Bank towns and villages.

At the time of the announcement for the protest, the list of endorsing organizations included: Students for Justice in Palestine’s Chicago network, and co-organized with local chapters of American Friends Service Committee, American Muslims for Palestine, Jews for Justice in Palestine, Jewish Voice for Peace, Palestine Solidarity Group, the US Palestine Community Network, International Socialist Organization, and the Anti-War Committee.

Included are comments/speeches by: representatives from Students for Justice in Palestine/Loyla University and DePaul University; Fadi Zanayed, Former President of American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee; and Ben Lorber, Jews for Justice in Palestine. Length - 8:22


Jumbo Palestinian flag is unfurled during demo at Water Tower Park on
Michigan Avenue. Photo: Steve Dalber / Labor Beat

Produced by Labor Beat. Labor Beat is a CAN TV Community Partner, and member of the Evanston Community Media Center. Labor Beat is a non-profit 501(c)(3) member of IBEW 1220. Views are those of the producer Labor Beat. For info: [email protected], www.laborbeat.org. 312-226-3330. For other Labor Beat videos, visit YouTube and search "Labor Beat".

[ckaihatsu]

Chicago Protests Collective Punishment of Palestinians

On YouTube at:
http://youtu.be/mqVA_F1GwbE

Also archived at:
laborbeat.org

Several hundred protesters drawn from a variety of organizations gathered at Chicago’s Water Tower Park on Michigan Avenue on July 5, 2014. Their purpose was to demand an end to Israel’s collective punishment of Palestinians and to call for fair and accurate reporting by the media of violence against Palestinian youth. These ongoing issues, normally not acknowledged by U.S. corporate media, in this last week burst onto the 5pm news hour due to the discovery of the bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens, and the immediate collective punishment killing of an innocent Palestinian 16-year-old by right-wing Israelis, plus heavy bombing of Gaza strip and West Bank towns and villages.

At the time of the announcement for the protest, the list of endorsing organizations included: Students for Justice in Palestine’s Chicago network, and co-organized with local chapters of American Friends Service Committee, American Muslims for Palestine, Jews for Justice in Palestine, Jewish Voice for Peace, Palestine Solidarity Group, the US Palestine Community Network, International Socialist Organization, and the Anti-War Committee.

Included are comments/speeches by: representatives from Students for Justice in Palestine/Loyla University and DePaul University; Fadi Zanayed, Former President of American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee; and Ben Lorber, Jews for Justice in Palestine. Length - 8:22


Jumbo Palestinian flag is unfurled during demo at Water Tower Park on
Michigan Avenue. Photo: Steve Dalber / Labor Beat

Produced by Labor Beat. Labor Beat is a CAN TV Community Partner, and member of the Evanston Community Media Center. Labor Beat is a non-profit 501(c)(3) member of IBEW 1220. Views are those of the producer Labor Beat. For info: [email protected], www.laborbeat.org. 312-226-3330. For other Labor Beat videos, visit YouTube and search "Labor Beat".

[Ele'ill]

So what do you feel this is doing?

[ckaihatsu]

So what do you feel this is doing?


Are you getting-at something in particular with your continued questioning here -- ? There's already an explanation in the introduction to the video:





Their purpose was to demand an end to Israel’s collective punishment of Palestinians and to call for fair and accurate reporting by the media of violence against Palestinian youth. These ongoing issues, normally not acknowledged by U.S. corporate media

[BIXX]

I think Mari3L was asking if you thought this was going to have any actual effect.

I gotta wonder the same thing, actuallyz

[ckaihatsu]

I think Mari3L was asking if you thought this was going to have any actual effect.

I gotta wonder the same thing, actuallyz


Yeah, I certainly hope so...!

[ckaihatsu]

Tarek Abu Kdeir is free! Thank you for your help in securing his release!


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(CHICAGO 07/06/2014) – American high school student Tarek Abu Khdeir is free! The American Muslims for Palestine today welcomes the news that Israeli authorities released Tarek without charge.

Tarek’s release is proof that mobilization and activism works.

AMP thanks its supporters and all those who came together to demand Tarek’s release. AMP’s emergency Twitter campaign #StandUpforTariq, which targeted Secretary of State John Kerry and President Barack Obama, reached more than 800,000 accounts with more than 2 million impressions. That means that thousands of Tweets demanding Tarek’s release reached the accounts of Kerry, Obama, the White House and the State Department.

AMP is certain this action was part of the global pressure that was instrumental in getting the State Department to take action and secure Tarek’s freedom.

The US State Department released a statement yesterday condemning the beating and calling for a “credible” investigation.

More than 1,000 Chicago area people turned out for a rally organized by the Chicago coalition of Students for Justice in Palestine and supported by AMP, demanding an end to Israel’s collective punishment of Palestinians and to free Tarek. In addition, 16 rallies were planned to take place throughout the week from New York to California. Many social media activists used the #StandUpforTariq hashtag to promote rallies around the country.

Thank you for taking time from your holiday weekend to work for justice! This is a great victory but we are not done! Tarek is being held on nine days house arrest. Israel’s incursion into the West Bank continues, with raids, arrests and brutalities. Israeli strikes on Gaza continue and brutalities against Palestinian citizens of Israel are on the upswing. Please stay tuned for upcoming actions and alerts responding to the current crisis in Palestine.

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[Ele'ill]

Yeah, I am asking how any of these protests and demands/other stuff translate into goals being met assuming the goal isn't simply to hold events. How do the folks involved feel that their activity is successful?

[Ele'ill]

Tarek Abu Kdeir is free! Thank you for your help in securing his release!


American Muslims for Palestine
About | Donate | Contact


AMP Welcomes news of release of American Tarek Abu Khdeir
Thanks supporters for efforts that help lead to his release

http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/o/51044/images/Tariq%20abu%20khdeir.jpg

http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/o/51044/images/Tweet%20Reach%20for%20Tariq.jpg

(CHICAGO 07/06/2014) – American high school student Tarek Abu Khdeir is free! The American Muslims for Palestine today welcomes the news that Israeli authorities released Tarek without charge.

Tarek’s release is proof that mobilization and activism works.

AMP thanks its supporters and all those who came together to demand Tarek’s release. AMP’s emergency Twitter campaign #StandUpforTariq, which targeted Secretary of State John Kerry and President Barack Obama, reached more than 800,000 accounts with more than 2 million impressions. That means that thousands of Tweets demanding Tarek’s release reached the accounts of Kerry, Obama, the White House and the State Department.

AMP is certain this action was part of the global pressure that was instrumental in getting the State Department to take action and secure Tarek’s freedom.

The US State Department released a statement yesterday condemning the beating and calling for a “credible” investigation.

More than 1,000 Chicago area people turned out for a rally organized by the Chicago coalition of Students for Justice in Palestine and supported by AMP, demanding an end to Israel’s collective punishment of Palestinians and to free Tarek. In addition, 16 rallies were planned to take place throughout the week from New York to California. Many social media activists used the #StandUpforTariq hashtag to promote rallies around the country.

Thank you for taking time from your holiday weekend to work for justice! This is a great victory but we are not done! Tarek is being held on nine days house arrest. Israel’s incursion into the West Bank continues, with raids, arrests and brutalities. Israeli strikes on Gaza continue and brutalities against Palestinian citizens of Israel are on the upswing. Please stay tuned for upcoming actions and alerts responding to the current crisis in Palestine.

Help AMP
continue its work.
Watch the video!

http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=Zdy%2F6ba9qLFa1tK0Gbe8GX1U4v5DgpjB


Please make
a generous donation today!

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bolded is my own, what proof is there that the activism or actions associated with the groups you post about in these email had anything to do with the release, what are other possible reasons there was a release

[ckaihatsu]

Yeah, I am asking how any of these protests and demands/other stuff translate into goals being met assuming the goal isn't simply to hold events. How do the folks involved feel that their activity is successful?





bolded is my own, what proof is there that the activism or actions associated with the groups you post about in these email had anything to do with the release, what are other possible reasons there was a release


Well, we're all limited by the amount of information that's available, or not.


philosophical abstractions

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[Ele'ill]

I'm just noting a trend in activism especially US activism where 'breaking emergency mass mobilizations!' equates to the same group of people engaging in 'demand' when they are not in a position to do so where things like mass emails, tweets, and facebook likes/meme circulating equates to whether or not a government somewhere does something or not without any critical thought put into why things happen. I'm questioning whether or not this type of activist optimism isn't actually extremely harmful (imo it is and isn't a part of any type of revolutionary strategy).

I don't know what your chart means I think most of the charts you've posted here aren't really applicable to the desired discussion.

[ckaihatsu]

I'm just noting a trend in activism especially US activism where 'breaking emergency mass mobilizations!'


You're generalizing too much, I'd say -- mass responses *may* be the most appropriate response, depending on the actual issue involved (case-by-case).





equates to the same group of people engaging in 'demand' when they are not in a position to do so where things like mass emails, tweets, and facebook likes/meme circulating equates to whether or not a government somewhere does something or not


In this particular case, with Tarek Abu Kdeir, I'd say the mobilization / protest was successful.





without any critical thought put into why things happen.


In the 'philosophical abstractions' diagram (from post #19), this would equate to '[revolutionary] [left-wing] wisdom'.





I'm questioning whether or not this type of activist optimism isn't actually extremely harmful (imo it is and isn't a part of any type of revolutionary strategy).


It may be the case that *pessimism* and *passivity* is worse.





I don't know what your chart means I think most of the charts you've posted here aren't really applicable to the desired discussion.


No prob -- I just provided an application for this one, above.

[Ele'ill]

You're generalizing too much, I'd say -- mass responses *may* be the most appropriate response, depending on the actual issue involved (case-by-case).

I am not saying anything about a response itself I'm noting the specific nature of this type of response and questioning it.






In this particular case, with Tarek Abu Kdeir, I'd say the mobilization / protest was successful.

How? We see this all the time where hundreds of people wave signs, 30 people stand outside a place, people like a facebook page or sign pieces of paper or whatever and a decision happens some time later and these groups involved hail themselves as having had full responsibility (or any responsibility) for the outcome which I think is outlandish/delusional given how many times it doesn't work. It's coincidental-activism, it's a hobby.






In the 'philosophical abstractions' diagram (from post #19), this would equate to '[revolutionary] [left-wing] wisdom'.

I still don't know/care what the chart that you made means or how its useful outside of being an ambiguous thing you can point to to validate your comments without having to talk about it. I don't think this has anything to do with revolutionary wisdom I think this has to do with no proof, proof that could be summed up in about a paragraph, as to how this action and ones like it are working. From that point, I feel like an actual critique could begin but there isn't even that.





It may be the case that *pessimism* and *passivity* is worse.

I guess if a critical analysis of what you're doing so you know whether or not it works is 'pessimism' then something important is def. being hidden :rolleyes:

[ckaihatsu]

I am not saying anything about a response itself I'm noting the specific nature of this type of response and questioning it.







How? We see this all the time where hundreds of people wave signs, 30 people stand outside a place, people like a facebook page or sign pieces of paper or whatever and a decision happens some time later and these groups involved hail themselves as having had full responsibility (or any responsibility) for the outcome which I think is outlandish/delusional given how many times it doesn't work. It's coincidental-activism, it's a hobby.







I still don't know/care what the chart that you made means or how its useful outside of being an ambiguous thing you can point to to validate your comments without having to talk about it. I don't think this has anything to do with revolutionary wisdom I think this has to do with no proof, proof that could be summed up in about a paragraph, as to how this action and ones like it are working. From that point, I feel like an actual critique could begin but there isn't even that.






I guess if a critical analysis of what you're doing so you know whether or not it works is 'pessimism' then something important is def. being hidden :rolleyes:


Well, all the best of luck, then -- I'd say we're definitely reaching different conclusions here.

[BIXX]

Would you mind showing evidence that the "emergency mobilization" worked? Something other than correlation, I need a direct line of cause and effect.

[ckaihatsu]

Would you mind showing evidence that the "emergency mobilization" worked? Something other than correlation, I need a direct line of cause and effect.


If you're asking if I have any inclination to make arguments to try to convince you and Mari3L of the efficacy of *any and all mass mobilizations*, then, no, I do not have any such inclination.

[ckaihatsu]

Here's a conflicting report regarding Tarek Abu Khdeir's legal status....


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Chicago rally for Palestine draws 2,000

Palestinian community members and their supporters from across Chicagoland turned out in force on Saturday, July 5th, to demand an end to Israel’s collective punishment of Palestinians in the past week, and that the western media fairly and truthfully cover the mass arrests and killings of Palestinian civilians. Israeli settlers, backed by the full force of the Israeli state, have been on a brutal rampage across the West Bank, while Gaza is being bombed yet again by Israeli war planes. Israel is using the deaths of three Israeli settlers as a pretext for its latest assault on the Palestinians. However, no Palestinian group has claimed responsibility for the settlers’ deaths, and Israel has provided no evidence that the perpetrators are Palestinian.

As USPCN-Chicago member Nesreen Hasan pointed out at the protest, “Israel is on a rampage not seen in years, and not one U.S. legislator or media outlet is asking why. But we must ask why. And the answer is that Israel does not want peace. Israel is a racist, criminal, Apartheid state that will never accept Palestinian independence and self-determination.”

USPCN-Chicago joined a coalition of community organizations and local Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) chapters that helped organize and lead the demonstration of 2,000 people on Saturday in downtown Chicago. After a rally at the historic Water Tower, protesters marched to the Chicago Tribune plaza to demand fair press coverage. There, the energetic, youth-led crowd decided to continue to rally for an hour beyond the original end time.

The names of the martyrs of Palestine from the past week were remembered in the crowd, as were the cases of Muhammad and Tarek Abu Khdeir. Sixteen year old Muhammad was kidnapped by Israeli settlers on his way to Fajr (morning) prayer in Jerusalem, and his body turned up in a field shortly after being tortured and burned alive. Fifteen year old Tarek is a U.S. citizen from Florida who was assaulted by the Israeli police and is currently being held under house arrest. Photos of Tarek and video of the beating were circulated on the internet.

On Monday, July 7th, USPCN asks all of our supporters and people of conscious to call on U.S. Congresswoman Kathy Castor (202.225.3376), and U.S. Senators Marco Rubio (813.287.5035) and Bill Nelson (813.225.7040), to intervene on behalf of their constituent.

You can use this sample script:

“Hello, my name is ______ and I am calling Representative/Senator _____ to demand that she/he intervene on behalf of her/his constituent Tarek Abu Khdeir. Tarek is a 15 year old boy who was brutally beaten by the Israeli police and held in Israeli detention without charge. He is now under house arrest. I would like to askRepresentative/Senator ____ to call on the U.S. State Department to 1) launch an investigation into Tarek’s beating and 2) demand that Israel immediately end his house arrest.”

See these photos of the protest from Sarah-Ji Fotógrafa and SJP Chicago.

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