Biker enthusiast

[Redhead]

I am a bit embarassed by this, but i am a bit of a motorcycle enthusiast. I drive a motorcycle now, and i was an enthusiast before being introduced to communism. I feel a bit selfish and hypocrite, but i do wonder: harley davidson, honda, yamaha etc. Are large capitalist business. What would happen to it ina communist society? Would it cease its production in favour of something more usefull? And how would you attain a motorcycle or a car (or other luxury goods) in a communist society?

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

There'd probably be clubs with use-sharing of said special interest vehicles. I don't think they'd disappear completely from production either as long as there were no significant shortages or anything either.

[Sasha]

Also, custom made choppers for everyone!
Seriously though, in a communist society people will have tons of more free time and acces to all available resources, pretty sure I for one as a carpenter and metalworker will use that time and tools to build some pretty damn sweet vehicles for myself and all my communist friends...

[Loony Le Fist]

Well, just to add, in a communist society (at least how perceive it) all the information would be open available and free. There wouldn't be this stranglehold on information for only those able to pay. I could see lots of people building their own vehicles and releasing that information for public consumption. There's already tons of enthusiasts out there, as evidenced by a quick scan of YouTube videos. It seems like it would be a highly educated and wealthy (from a perspective of cultural richness and technological advancement). I see such a society being likely to come up with creative ways to overcome things that we stumble with today.

A significant number would likely be better than the mass produced ones today--after all, we see that with software. There is plenty of great software out there that is completely free and open-source--created by large collaborating groups. It's a labor of love. I don't see why people wouldn't be motivated to put their hands to good use if you got rid of the profit motive. We would find some other reason, I'm sure. Humans have always found a way to stay busy.

Of course I'm one of those post-scarcity types. :grin: However, I do think humans have shown a remarkable tenacity to overcome resource limitations. We just require some motivation. Whether that motivation will come from capitalist forces, or a more leftist perspective remains to be seen. I'm of course hoping it's the latter, since then the benefits would be distributed in a far more egalitarian manner. Otherwise it's going to be post-scarcity for the wealthy, and scarcity for the rest of us.

However--that's kind of how it is now, when you think about it. :ohmy:

[Ele'ill]

It will be exciting cause you could go to learn how to do things that you specifically find relevant to your life, like construction of houses, farming, cannibalism, and all the more detailed things pertaining to those like electric, welding, irrigation, food prep, etc..

[Slavic]

It will be exciting cause you could go to learn how to do things that you specifically find relevant to your life, like construction of houses, farming, cannibalism, and all the more detailed things pertaining to those like electric, welding, irrigation, food prep, etc..

Can't free yourself from the cannibalism discussion can we : P

A revolution isn't going to cause every industry to suddenly disappear, but it does put the reigns of those industries into the hands of the working class. Motocycles are a very popular vehicle and I can see continued production of them. Instead of being guided by profit, motocycles will be build according to the desires of those who love them. This could be a dramatic change or nothing at all. Point being, Communism doesn't mean the goods we enjoy disappear.

[(A)]

:hammersickle:Communist biker gang. Who's with me?:hammersickle:

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

I wouldn't be surprised if something like Japanese dekotora becomes a big hobby in a socialist world.

http://www.pinktentacle.com/images/dekotora_3.jpg


Basically, dekotora is a thing in Japan where professional truck drivers (at least the ones who own their own vehicles), will trick-out their rides in really elaborate ways. It's got nothing to do with 'brand name' and everything to do with self-expression.

I wouldn't be surprised that, once vehicles are abundant and 'brand names' become a thing of the past, everything from motorcycles to fishing boats would look like this.

[The Modern Prometheus]

:hammersickle:Communist biker gang. Who's with me?:hammersickle:

Actually that would look pretty cool. Call ourselves the Red Army and all that and within however long it takes the cops to get a warrant we would be labelled as a outlaw motorcycle gang.

[(A)]

We could have Red Star patches with the hammer and sickle in the center.
Would be awesome.

[Zukunftsmusik]

:hammersickle:Communist biker gang. Who's with me?:hammersickle:

This is a terrible idea.


Actually that would look pretty cool. Call ourselves the Red Army and all that and within however long it takes the cops to get a warrant we would be labelled as a outlaw motorcycle gang.

No, it wouldn't.


We could have Red Star patches with the hammer and sickle in the center.
Would be awesome.

Just nope.

[(A)]

Kill joy.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

Kill joy.

Aw, do I have to? I wanted to go to the cinema later.

I don't see why the status of Yamaha, Honda etc. as large capitalist enteprises is relevant - communism is not opposed to large-scale production (although it seems to me that some people have a very petit-bourgeois, "small is beautiful" view of what communism is - that is indistinguishable from federalism). Presumably the factories would still exist and would produce motorcycles according to the economic plan.

As for how you would get a motorcycle - you would go to the distribution centre and take a motorcycle. It's simple, really.

[Sasha]

Pfff, centralists and their boring 5 year plans, this is how we will roll after the revolution; nLCmcV4gC_0

;)

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

I don't care about that, I care about the armour being made to specifications decided by the central soviet in quantities decided by the planning commission and ratified by the central soviet, in factories assigned armour production by the metallurgic centre and distributed by way of organised distribution centres.

Sometimes I have lingering doubts about my life taking a horribly wrong turn somewhere.