Boredom or Apathy: The Trotsky

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:trotski:
"Are you my Stalin Dwight?"

I just re-watched The Trotsky after a long while and found that it just gets better the more you know.
The first time round I did not get the Animal Farm or the Ayn Rand references.


Dwight: "A girl dressed as Ayn Rand said you threw her out?"
Leon: "Ya so? This is a fascist free zone"

I wanted to know what you guys thought about the movie and whatever. I like it due to the subject matter
of course but also cuss its a lot more than I first thought it would be & I think anything that speaks about these things is a good thing.

"We are crashing the party so to say, in the bolshevik style of crashing... well everything."

What do you think about the question the movie poses? Is it boredom or apathy? Does the majority care but
have not the energy to act or has the media done such a great job in distracting people that most just don't care about there state?

I would hope it is the former but people I talk to seam to not even give a single fuck about the crises that we face.
Have you had a better experience from the people around you?

[CaptainCool309]

I recently saw this movie for the 1st time about a week ago, I thought it was pretty good. Jay Baruchel was great, and the subject matter was surprisingly refreshing. It's not everyday you get to see a high school movie being centered around a "leftist" theme, so that was cool.

But yes the movie does pose an interesting question. Is our Youth today Bored, or Apathetic? From what I've observed with the youth of my community (whether it be in my school or other local schools around the area) I'd say that when it comes to politics, they are mostly apathetic. Most of the teenagers I know have better things to "care" about than politics. If they do get interested in a political issue, then it has to strike home. It has to be something that affects the local community around them, something they can physically make a difference in. Then you start to see them "aroused from their slumber of boredom."

[QueerVanguard]

I thought the movie was a piece of crap, like the writers just read a wikipedia entry about Trotsky and the USSR before churning out that bowl movement. I got so second hand embarrassed watching it that I had to stop after about 30-45 minutes

[Five Year Plan]

I thought the movie was a piece of crap, like the writers just read a wikipedia entry about Trotsky and the USSR before churning out that bowl movement. I got so second hand embarrassed watching it that I had to stop after about 30-45 minutes

I actually thought they did a reasonably good job of entering the sometimes arcane cultural world of Bolshevism and far left politics more generally.

What I took from the movie's message? Sometimes we are so concerned with perfection that we put ourselves in a state of political paralysis and abstentionism. No movement starts off as perfect: the act of supporting people who are moving against capitalism and oppression is essential, even if it's because of some delusional reason like the idea that person must agitate because he is the reincarnation of some great and long-dead Bolshevik. Leon and his classmates were the real movement, so whatever criticisms you have should be made within the context of offering a helping hand.

While Leon in the main character, has the most screen time, etc., the central character in the movie, the one who brings it all together, is the lawyer who undergoes a transformation in the movie. Leon doesn't change at all, but the lawyer does, if you think about it. He was brilliantly acted, btw.

The "My Stalin" part was funny, but my favorite part will always be when Leon is stalking the lawyer through a park as the lawyer is power-walking, and Leon starts mockingly goose-stepping like a fascist.

[blake 3:17]

It's great and super fun. I saw it when it came out and totally enjoyed it.

[The Intransigent Faction]

"We are here to give the impression that we are willing to talk sensibly before raining down a hellfire on your legacy." :grin:

Yeah, some parts felt awkward, but overall it was enjoyable.

[blake 3:17]

Peeps should also check this thread -- a revlefter interviewed the director of The Trotsky and this the thread that ensued: http://www.revleft.com/vb/interview-director-trotsky-t167220/index.html?t=167220