North Korea Communism?

[Red_Morg98]

I know many communists who support the regime in North Korea because they are apparently 'communists'. I would like to call myself a communist, but I don't support a regime which kills it's people, forces them into slave labour at camps etc especially when the leaders of North Korea live like kings while the people slave and starve away. What are communists who support N. Korea's regime justification for their support?

[RedWorker]

Like already debated in endless threads, North Korea is neither communist nor socialist in any way. Already Friedrich Engels in 1880 was intelligent enough to spot that state ownership does not do away by itself with capitalism, but rather would be the last stage of capitalism. (read here (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/ch03.htm))

People can support it because they like militarism, authoritarianism, "a clean society", along with perhaps certain policies which could perhaps be considered centre-left or social democratic (without the "democratic"). Despite the fact that everything else is pretty far-right. Same kind of people who would like Stalin.

Because North Korea is used every day in the media as a device to attack "communism", some people might think all the bad things about North Korea are lies and that it is really a good place, which is being attacked because it is one of the only places which is trying a different system. Seeing the degree of propaganda and manipulation there is in our world, this approach does not seem to be too bad to me.

Some people also feel the need to defend North Korea out of an anti-imperialist stance.

[xnecron101x]

Even though I couldn't say why people support North Korea, I can definitely say you're not alone. I don't know a single person in the real world who supports the "communist" regime in North Korea. Honestly, I don't believe any self-respecting Marxist could even have sympathies towards the North Korean leaders. It seems to mostly Maoists with a twisted sense of communism that support North Korea.

[Red_Morg98]

Even though I couldn't say why people support North Korea, I can definitely say you're not alone. I don't know a single person in the real world who supports the "communist" regime in North Korea. Honestly, I don't believe any self-respecting Marxist could even have sympathies towards the North Korean leaders. It seems to mostly Maoists with a twisted sense of communism that support North Korea.

It seems like if communists can justify N. Korea's regime, then far right followers could justify Hitler's rule in Nazi Germany.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

It seems like if communists can justify N. Korea's regime, then far right followers could justify Hitler's rule in Nazi Germany.

I'm not sure how you could be unaware of it, but Neo-Nazis obviously do exactly that.

[Sea]

I know many communists who support the regime in North Korea because they are apparently 'communists'.No you don't. You either know many communists, or you know many people who support DPRK. You have to pick one.
I would like to call myself a communistFeel free.
but I don't support a regime which kills it's people, forces them into slave labour at camps etc especially when the leaders of North Korea live like kings while the people slave and starve away.Yeah those are some tough things to support, ain't they?
It seems like if communists can justify N. Korea's regime, then far right followers could justify Hitler's rule in Nazi Germany.And patriots can justify their support for their own governments everywhere. It is a pity really.

Communists don't support any country. It's right there in the fucking manifesto. If anyone tries to tell you that they're a communist and that they support some country or another, you can feel free to tell them to fuck off.

[midnight888]

North Korea, like every other country, is NOT a communist country. Its has the Won as currency and also has a government, thereby contradicting the defineition of communism.

So some will then say it is socialist, but it is also not that since the working class do not own the means of production.

[Left Voice]

To be clear though, most people simply defend it on the basis of anti-imperialism. I don't agree with this stance, but it's not the same as actually believing that North Korea is communist.

[Regicollis]

It seems that because North Korea is so often associated with communism in the bourgeois media a lot of people - even communists - think you have to support North Korea in order to be a proper communist.'

But that sentiment is wrong. It would equal believing that you had to support Nazi Germany in order to be a true believer in bourgeois ideology. The only thing I as a communist have in common with the North Korean god-king is an affinity for the colour red.

[tuwix]

It would equal believing that you had to support Nazi Germany in order to be a true believer in bourgeois ideology.

No. Nazism wasn't the most bourgeois ideology nor Nazi Germany were the most bourgeois country. The most bourgeois ideology is right-wing libertarianism.