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blake 3:17
22nd June 2014, 12:15
Ernie Tate, a working class and free minded Trotskyist of some 60 years (that's 60 years of Trotskyism!) has published his memoirs. I haven't got my hands on the books yet but have read some of the excerpts online. From what I've seen the really interesting stuff is all pretty Toronto, Cuba and labour.

Just for the crazy sectariana folks -- Ernie recruited Tariq Ali to IMG, was beat up by the Healyites and had his case known, and was the leader of the IMG who supported a merger of the IMG and the IS when it would've worked. As one comrade put it, that would've changed the whole shape of revolutionary politics in England but elsewhere.

1959 (I think) on Teamster politics:
Once we stood a good chance of getting a couple of militants onto the Executive Board, but we unfortunately suffered an embarrassing set-back when one of our members who was running for the Executive was arrested by a plain-clothed cop on the street just outside the plant. He had taken a Globe and Mail newspaper from its box without paying for it, and was fired when the company heard about it. It was a petty and quite dumb thing to do, something he had done many times before, he later told us. As a result, our opponents very happily spread the gossip about this incident throughout the plant, helping to torpedo our efforts to get on the Locals Executive. I remember how we were acutely embarrassed by it and of course it set us back quite a bit. Getting our members established in the plant in the first place hadnt been easy, by any means. In those depressed times, even when we would finally manage to get someone into a targeted plant, there would often be layoffs and they would be quickly out on the street again, the result of the policy of last hired, first fired. We also had a couple of peopleJoe Rosenblatt comes to mindworking at Canadian Pacific Railway on the loading dock in Toronto, but none of this compared to what happened in the Teamsters as the decade came to an end. It was one of the few times in those years when our group made a focused effort to get as many members as possible into a specific union local of a specific industry.

As the decade came to a close, Toronto became the focal point for a series of wildcat strikes in the trucking industry throughout Ontario. It was a time of great turmoil in the International Brotherhood of Teamsters which was undergoing a deep crisis, its membership in a state of revolt, especially in Ontario where many of its locals were under trusteeship, the most egregious case being that of a large Windsor local of some 5,800 members that had been in trusteeship for an amazing fourteen years and another large local in Toronto, with over 5,500 members, that had been in trusteeship for more than a year. The unions head office in Washington had been under investigation by the Labour Department for corruption and as a result, in February 1958, under a court order, Jimmy Hoffa was forced out of office and replaced by a government appointed board of monitors that promptly began an anti-union campaign that lasted twenty- seven months, carried out under the guise of getting Hoffa, all the while delaying a convention that ostensibly it had been put in place to organize. In the meantime, the Hoffa machine was still in control, with many of its locals in Ontario suffering under his trusteeships.

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blake 3:17
22nd June 2014, 12:24
The video of the launch party is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsTplaE8yIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMNCjfdgYkg

The first one is kind of the end (or something (very dialectical)) -- aw jeezus

Anyways this is many of the prominent Trots in this neck of the woods for those who care.

What I admire in Tate is his completely nonsectarian attitude, while always maintaining principles. We had a fight 15 years back & he agrees now.

PhoenixAsh
22nd June 2014, 15:21
Tell us more about the argument you had.

It sounds really interesting. I am wondering if he describes the same developments taking place in The Netherlands that were the foundation of the breakdown of the communist movement.

In the 60's communism/socialism became a petit-bourgeois fat with a huge influx of students and proto-revolutionary identity political groups. This means the intelectualization (in a negative sense) of the revolutionary vanguard and a slow drift away from working class organisation. This eventually led to increased isolation from the working class and the eventual death of many previously revolutionary organizations in the early to late 80s.

I am wondering if this was felt elsewhere and if he describes this in his book.

Sasha
22nd June 2014, 18:37
Huh? I would say that the "working-class" communist organisations in the Netherlands where already on a steady path to irrelevance due to their unquestioned support for the USSR line. The only remotely intresting groups that where still revolutionary where those new or splinter groups (often with lots of students but also many dockers etc) that dabbled with things like autonomism and sponti-maoism. The established communist groups became exactly that, establishment with a red veneer.

PhoenixAsh
22nd June 2014, 20:21
Huh? I would say that the "working-class" communist organisations in the Netherlands where already on a steady path to irrelevance due to their unquestioned support for the USSR line. The only remotely intresting groups that where still revolutionary where those new or splinter groups (often with lots of students but also many dockers etc) that dabbled with things like autonomism and sponti-maoism. The established communist groups became exactly that, establishment with a red veneer.


The CPN's demise of course started in the late 50's with their release of the pamphlet against the "Brug-groep" and Gerben Wagenaar and the support for the Hungarian situation. After that thousands of members walked out dropping membership by more than 10.000 members. But the nail to the coffin was the late 70s early 80's after a revival in the 60's. That is when most of the new influx were the petit-bourgeois university students which pushed the CPN into a move away from Marxism. The HOC (of which my father was a founding member) tried to revert the course back to Marxism and away from a society critical anti-capitalist topic oriented party. That didn't work though and couldn't prevent a split. In the late 70's workers left the party enmasse and most of the party leadership was taken over by students. I have no love whatsoever for Saul de Groot but he at least was somebody who recognized what actually happened in the late 70's and lost his honorary member status over it.

blake 3:17
25th June 2014, 00:14
Tell us more about the argument you had.

Not really an argument, just a disagreement, which in the polemical Trot world is sort of the same thing. The question was around an open letter on Quebec self determination and he and Jess wouldn't sign because of the wording around support for Canada's native peoples. The old Trot line was that they were a thing of the past.

It's been interesting getting to know people from the LSA wing of the movement who are increasingly pro-native and pro-ecology. The LSA and RMG(which was the bohemian hippy wing) fused at some point in the mid 70s but there was usually a culture/generational clash.