Hi I need communism. USA needs communism, because medical services are too expensive

[USAneedsCommunism]

Hi all, the other day my dad fell doing something in the yard, so he had to be taken to the capitalist free market hospital right away. the doctors said that he needed a hip replacement, thru a surgery. The total cost of that hip replacement surgery came out to be about 24,000 thousand dollars (with a discount), without a discount it would've been more expensive.

So, my family is not drug smuggler, we don't own a Wal Mart and an oil field in order to afford to keep living in the ultra expensive capitalist system. So ther real reason of why i became a leftist was because i found out by own self in the internet, that if a leftist party rises to the US government it would provide free medical care for the whole population of America.

That's why I picked this nick, because I need socialism, USA needs communism as soon as possible. And a friend of mine told me that this discussion forum is one of the best of the web

[Q]

Welcome :)

If you have political questions, you can ask them in the Learning forum. That's why it's there after all!

If you have questions about your account, don't hesitate to send me a PM or ask here.

I'm sorry to hear about your father, is he okay? Given your avatar, are you attracted to Chavez' ideas? Or are you still mostly looking around?

[USAneedsCommunism]

Q: hi, thanks for your answer. Yes, my father is ok. Well, I picked the Hugo Chavez picture for my avatar, because I think that even though Venezuela today is not a workers government yet, Hugo Chavez helped the resurrection of marxist thought, which was not dead before Hugo Chavez came to power in 1998, but marxism and socialism ideas were a little bit weak. So he sort of helped socialist ideas become more popular and more mainstream, with the help of course of the powerful media that Hugo Chavez created like Telesur, and his alliances with people like Oliver Stone, Michael Moore, Sean Penn and other popular celebrities









Welcome :)

If you have political questions, you can ask them in the Learning forum. That's why it's there after all!

If you have questions about your account, don't hesitate to send me a PM or ask here.

I'm sorry to hear about your father, is he okay? Given your avatar, are you attracted to Chavez' ideas? Or are you still mostly looking around?

[exeexe]

Hi and welcome to this forum! Sorry to hear about the yard accident.:ohmy:
If you wanna get rid of capitalism and the state, as communism demands, you shouldn't organize a political party whose purpose is to use state power. Instead you should organize trade unions. Trade unions are immune to the end of the state (and capitalism for that matter), and therefore wont behave in a counterrevolutionary way.

Also just a hint:
Also you can have USA and you can have communism but you cant have both. Your name should be people needs communism if you want your name to have any meaning.

[RedWorker]

Welcome, comrade.
Yes, the costs of such basic services as healthcare, which really ought to be considered a minimum human right, are ridiculous.
It is unbelievable that in the country with the biggest economy in the world there are millions of people who have to suffer just because a number in their bank account is not high enough.
Just so that some others can accumulate millions of dollars which they will probably never even use.
Chavez is a good guy.
Helped a lot of people.
Though he may have not been perfect.
Nobody is perfect.

[Brutus]

Hi and welcome to this forum! Sorry to hear about the yard accident.:ohmy:
If you wanna get rid of capitalism and the state, as communism demands, you shouldn't organize a political party whose purpose is to use state power. Instead you should organize trade unions. Trade unions are immune to the end of the state (and capitalism for that matter), and therefore wont behave in a counterrevolutionary way.

Ugh, unions deal with economic demands that arise from the class struggle- they're no longer unions if they play a part in political struggle. Political parties are needed as class struggle is, ultimately, a political struggle which leads to the formation of a new state by the revolutionary class and new social-relations.

And unions being immune to counter-revolutionary thoughts and actions? "British jobs for British workers"- enough said.



Welcome, btw

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

wow, sorry to hear about your dad (and the associated medical bill).

I think it's a disgrace that, through no fault of his own, your dad is now saddled with such a bill. A 'free at the point of use', universal healthcare service should be a staple of any humane society and a staple policy for any leftist.

Welcome to the forum, I hope you find what you are looking for here.

[USAneedsCommunism]

Thanks you all for your great welcome and support. Yeah medical services are too expensive in the United States as well as many other countries. I think that one of the main causes of why medical services are too expensive is that the salaries of most doctors are just too high compared with other professions like teachers. So the super high salaries of doctors elevates the costs of hospitals and clinics so the consumers, the patients end up financing the wealthy lifestyles of doctors

[Q]

Thanks you all for your great welcome and support. Yeah medical services are too expensive in the United States as well as many other countries. I think that one of the main causes of why medical services are too expensive is that the salaries of most doctors are just too high compared with other professions like teachers. So the super high salaries of doctors elevates the costs of hospitals and clinics so the consumers, the patients end up financing the wealthy lifestyles of doctors
I don't think that the "wealthy lifestyle of the doctors" is a cause here, but an obvious consequence. The cause is the for-profit logic by which the whole healthcare in the US is run.

This is not a given within capitalist society. The National Health service in the UK for example shows an alternative model where healthcare is provided on an as-needed basis. That said, there is a strong pressure on the NHS to operate more along the lines of market logic, so it remains to be seen how long this will last.

In the Netherlands there existed a two-tier medical financiering for a long time: You'd be in the default "sickfund" which was based on a progressive financial basis (the more you earned, the more you paid) and only a small minority being insured via private insurances. Nowadays, since about 2005, we have the "American system" of insurances being the only way to get healthcare, although we don't pay as much ... yet. "Only" about €1500 a year. But it is steeply going up, unsurprisingly...