Whats a left-wing Anarchist without Communism?

[Anti-Archy]

If an AnCom holds the economic ideals of Communism then whats the plan of a left-wing Anarchist without it?

[Sinister Intents]

I'm drink as fuck but fuck it.

This person could be any antiaurhoritarian this could be an anarchist capitalist

[Anti-Archy]

I'm drink as fuck but fuck it.

This person could be any antiaurhoritarian this could be an anarchist capitalist
Well you wouldn't be an AnCap if you're left wing and an Anti Authoritarian would just be another way to say Anarchist. So the question is, what economic plan does a left-wing Anarchist have or does he require an add-on to that title such as AnCom in order to be taken seriously as having realistic ideals?

[Rafiq]

The rejection of labeling themselves as communists is a matter of historical tradition, not ideology. It's comprable to Maoist parties being identified by the 'M-L' addition, I.e. Communist Party of Greece (ML). They're all Marxist leninists, but it's tradition.

[Sinister Intents]

Well you wouldn't be an AnCap if you're left wing and an Anti Authoritarian would just be another way to say Anarchist. So the question is, what economic plan does a left-wing Anarchist have or does he require an add-on to that title such as AnCom in order to be taken seriously as having realistic ideals?

Technically all socialist anarchists ate socialist anarchists as well as tradition like Rafiq has said. A non communist anarchist could be a primitivist as well. A liberal anarchist is technically an anarchist

[Sinister Intents]

Also they could hold any economical idea

[#FF0000]

Also they could hold any economical idea

You shouldn't drunk post.

[#FF0000]

There are def. non-communist anarchist strains though. Mutualism and individualist schools of anarchist thought aren't communist, while still being anti-capitalist.

[Anti-Archy]

Technically all socialist anarchists ate socialist anarchists as well as tradition like Rafiq has said. A non communist anarchist could be a primitivist as well. A liberal anarchist is technically an anarchist
Thats what I was looking for. An Anarchist with no economic additional name attached must be assumed as a primitivist which I would equate to no economical ideology. Assuming were not talking about the previously mentioned communist anarchist avoiding the label of anything beyond anarchist that actually holds some sort of economic ideology.

Sound right?

[Anti-Archy]

There are def. non-communist anarchist strains though. Mutualism and individualist schools of anarchist thought aren't communist, while still being anti-capitalist.

But they would hold SOME form of economic ideology and an additional name could be added whether they like it or not right?

Basically what I was getting at is if someone says they are a left-wing Anarchist, that doesn't totally describe them. Further information is required to understand their ideologies.

[Sinister Intents]

There are def. non-communist anarchist strains though. Mutualism and individualist schools of anarchist thought aren't communist, while still being anti-capitalist.

I hold both, yet I'm still an anarchist communist

[Sinister Intents]

Thats what I was looking for. An Anarchist with no economic additional name attached must be assumed as a primitivist which I would equate to no economical ideology. Assuming were not talking about the previously mentioned communist anarchist avoiding the label of anything beyond anarchist that actually holds some sort of economic ideology.

Sound right?

Not all primitivists are anarchists, as well as not all anti-civilization type people not being primitivists. Anarchism fits so many differnt positions, it's difficult to define all anarchists as left wing in reality, and you wouldn't be able to lable them right-wing either. Anarchism hits a multitude of different things. You can get national anarchists that are third positionists. They hold an idea contradictory of socialism and capitalism, a third position ouside of both of those economical ideas, and they hold on to this shitty belief in authority as well as in the nation, so they're statist anarchists, and they're the epitome of cognitive dissonance.

[Remus Bleys]

I hold both, yet I'm still an anarchist communist
How can you be a mutualist and a communist? I mean, the most obvious difference is the mutualist upholding of trade, market, money et cetera (that's somehow "fair" and thus "not capitalist") whereas communism is the abolition of the market, money, trade et cetera.

[Sinister Intents]

How can you be a mutualist and a communist? I mean, the most obvious difference is the mutualist upholding of trade, market, money et cetera (that's somehow "fair" and thus "not capitalist") whereas communism is the abolition of the market, money, trade et cetera.

Perhaps thinking mutual aid'ist' and mutualist is a daft thing to think when I'm drunk. I was thinking mutual aid, and mutual aid has never come across as anything that has conradicted communism like market socialism. I'm taking this as I'm confusing terms here and will not mix mutual aid with mutualist anymore, so I'll further research into what mutualism is outside of this. However, I think trade will always exist, and my reasoning being. "hey dude, I have this TV I don't want anymore." "Sweet Julie, can I have it?" "Yeah, I don't want it, it's just taking up my space at home, You have anything you wanna get rid of?" "Yeah I have a couch I don't want." "who's slept on it?" "Just me dude." I should stop posting.

[Anti-Archy]

Perhaps thinking mutual aid'ist' and mutualist is a daft thing to think when I'm drunk. I was thinking mutual aid, and mutual aid has never come across as anything that has conradicted communism like market socialism. I'm taking this as I'm confusing terms here and will not mix mutual aid with mutualist anymore, so I'll further research into what mutualism is outside of this. However, I think trade will always exist, and my reasoning being. "hey dude, I have this TV I don't want anymore." "Sweet Julie, can I have it?" "Yeah, I don't want it, it's just taking up my space at home, You have anything you wanna get rid of?" "Yeah I have a couch I don't want." "who's slept on it?" "Just me dude." I should stop posting.

Hey buddy! You just described capitalism :)

[Sinister Intents]

Hey buddy! You just described capitalism :)

How lol? I was thinking of exchange from one item to another without money. Both sides benefited gained something, no one exploited anything for profit, so there exists no capitalist in this

[Buzzard]

Hey buddy! You just described capitalism :)

Yeah dude totally, if you're overlooking the wage system, rent, private property, needless bills, and the destruction of the environment, your spot on ;)

[Anti-Archy]

How lol? I was thinking of exchange from one item to another without money. Both sides benefited gained something, no one exploited anything for profit, so there exists no capitalist in this
Capitalism dosent require money. I can trade you my TV for your Couch and I only did it(typically) because I feel I benefited from that trade. That would mean I capitalized.

[RedWorker]

Capitalism dosent require money. I can trade you my TV for your Couch and I only did it(typically) because I feel I benefited from that trade. That would mean I capitalized.

Ehh... capitalism is a little more complex than barter.

[Sinister Intents]

Capitalism dosent require money. I can trade you my TV for your Couch and I only did it(typically) because I feel I benefited from that trade. That would mean I capitalized.

If I gave you my functioning radio because I didn't have a want or need for it anymore, and you wanted it, that wouldn't be capitalism, that'd be giving you something that you felt you needed. Capitalism does require money, and requires a multitude of other things, but a money economy is the marker of capitalism.

[Anti-Archy]

If I gave you my functioning radio because I didn't have a want or need for it anymore, and you wanted it, that wouldn't be capitalism, that'd be giving you something that you felt you needed. Capitalism does require money, and requires a multitude of other things, but a money economy is the marker of capitalism.

Well it all depends on why you gave me the radio I suppose.

[Sinister Intents]

Well it all depends on why you gave me the radio I suppose.

Hey, I don't need this radio anymore since my personal music player died. I'll just use my laptop, do you want the radio? It works perfectly fine.

[Anti-Archy]

Hey, I don't need this radio anymore since my personal music player died. I'll just use my laptop, do you want the radio? It works perfectly fine.
Are we friends or did we conduct previous trade? Am I capitalizing on previous trade we conducted where I openly gave you the profiting end of the deal? If so then im capitalizing on those deals now potentially. If im a stranger and you're just nice then id assume it was not capitalism.

[Sinister Intents]

I'm a friend giving you something because I don't know anyone else who would want this damn radio. I've been to your house and you don't have something that can accurately play your iPod. So, my shit died, and I don't want it because it's taking up space so I'm more just asking if you want it and it's your choice to take it or not

[Thirsty Crow]

Ehh... capitalism is a little more complex than barter.
Not only that, but the example of bartering one's TV for another person's couch has nothing to do with capital whatsoever (apart from the simple fact of it being a commodity product of workers hired by a capitalist). The person hasn't valorized any capital; they merely benefited in an immediate way. That's a whole lot different from the exchange of commodities. For one thing, the couch which the first person got cannot be exchanged for any thing in the world.