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Sinister Intents
11th June 2014, 16:34
What are they?
This doesn't have to be limited to parents, any family really....
When I was really little my grandfather taught me about races... the negroid... that are lazy and stupid... the mongoloid.... that are sneaky and treacherous.... the Jew.... you can fill that in for yourself.... and the Aryans.... yuck.....
He also told me Hitler was a great man and the importance of authority and the state as well as he stressed the importance of race.....
Hrafn
11th June 2014, 16:38
Given that my mom is kind of a democratic socialist, and no other family members ever taught me anything non-practical, not much.
Rosa Partizan
11th June 2014, 19:30
a ton of stuff. My father describes himself as nationalist and he's also a racist. I have heard him say shit about blacks, Arabs, Jews, Turks, Americans, Russians, Chinese, and of course about our "neighbours" (Serbs and Croatians, although my mom is Croatian) and many more. Once he said "Hitler was a very bad man for sure, but there were some points about Jews he was right with". Yeah sure. He's also a sexist and a homophobe, saying stuff like "nowadays women are like men and men are like women, this is frightening and unnatural" and "if your brother was gay - God beware - I'd beat that gayness out of him". He never made great efforts to make me believe in Islam, but at home, he becomes kinda angry when I doubt Allah's existence, so we just don't talk about that. Most progressive dad ever <3
Sabot Cat
11th June 2014, 22:55
Mm, my parents tried to impress upon me the tenants of Christianity. That didn't stick though, thankfully.
Os Cangaceiros
12th June 2014, 01:54
What are they?
This doesn't have to be limited to parents, any family really....
When I was really little my grandfather taught me about races... the negroid... that are lazy and stupid... the mongoloid.... that are sneaky and treacherous.... the Jew.... you can fill that in for yourself.... and the Aryans.... yuck.....
He also told me Hitler was a great man and the importance of authority and the state as well as he stressed the importance of race.....
LOL, did your grandfather used to live in Argentina?
a ton of stuff. My father describes himself as nationalist and he's also a racist. I have heard him say shit about blacks, Arabs, Jews, Turks, Americans, Russians, Chinese, and of course about our "neighbours" (Serbs and Croatians, although my mom is Croatian) and many more. Once he said "Hitler was a very bad man for sure, but there were some points about Jews he was right with". Yeah sure. He's also a sexist and a homophobe, saying stuff like "nowadays women are like men and men are like women, this is frightening and unnatural" and "if your brother was gay - God beware - I'd beat that gayness out of him". He never made great efforts to make me believe in Islam, but at home, he becomes kinda angry when I doubt Allah's existence, so we just don't talk about that. Most progressive dad ever <3Ever consider patricide?
Rusty Shackleford
13th June 2014, 09:29
probably one of the best things was nothing. I mean yeah, my mom taught me shit, but she never trained me on anything.
Quail
13th June 2014, 10:56
I don't know if this counts as something that my parents taught me, but I feel as though they want me to fit into a particular narrow definition of femininity, and they make their disapproval known when I don't meet that. I don't think it's a conscious thing, but they really have made an effort over the years to impress upon me the importance of presenting myself in a way which is acceptable to other people which personally I think is really unhealthy and I've tried hard not to internalise it as much as possible, but it's definitely rubbed off on me.
Redistribute the Rep
13th June 2014, 17:28
Don't marry outside of your culture
Don't marry outside of your cultureThe other shitty thing, of course, being the implication that you should marry inside your culture.
One of the basic, broadly taught (even by 'progressive' parents) bits of indoctrination parents employ is the notion that simply being a parent gives them legitimate authority. "Because I said so and I'm the mom/dad" is the original authoritarian creed. It is might makes right logic in its purist form.
Obedience, servility, and compliance are among the first values inculcated into children and the child-parent hierarchy serves to condition a child to acquiescence into future positions of subordination.
flaming bolshevik
20th June 2014, 05:48
That pinochet was a good man and Allende was an evil communist that ruined the lives of countless chileans.
That corporations can solve all your problems and if you get rich it's because you deserve it.
And all the other nonsense right wingers say.
Trap Queen Voxxy
23rd June 2014, 23:27
If you go after the people surrounding your actual mark it's easier to press them for money. Never underestimate the power of information and blackmail. Never sign for anything. If things get dodgy move. Only use cash, period. Working in boy-girl teams it's easier to con people. Find jobs that higher on the spot, use a fake name and loot them out. A bunch of stupid shit really. My grandparents are the ones who actually taught me stuff.
QueerVanguard
24th June 2014, 00:24
A. Capitalism is "fair"
B. There are only two "genders"
C. White people are no longer racist and all the problems of our community are our own
D. Police people are trying to protect us
E. The USA is a force for good in the world
F. People with an active sex life are "sluts" to be looked down on
and the list goes on
Zoroaster
24th June 2014, 00:43
My parents have actually been pretty good to me so far, but there is the occasional "don' talk back, cause I'm your mom/dad" moment, which gets me mad. But other wise, life's been pretty nice.
Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant'
30th June 2014, 09:43
'Remember, you were here first!'
(actual parenting advise from my dad as he was holding my then days-old first born)
exeexe
30th June 2014, 11:28
They tried to tell me the muslims are the enemy, but they didnt held this position to begin with, it was only something they adopted when i was in my teens and by then it was too late and i could think for my self.
They tought me left wing is either high taxes, bankruptcy of the state or a USSR state.
They tought me that we need police to keep order.
They tried to tell me that nationalism is something that i should value very highly.
Skyhilist
1st July 2014, 04:28
You better register to vote!
Lord Testicles
1st July 2014, 14:22
One of the basic, broadly taught (even by 'progressive' parents) bits of indoctrination parents employ is the notion that simply being a parent gives them legitimate authority. "Because I said so and I'm the mom/dad" is the original authoritarian creed. It is might makes right logic in its purist form.
Obedience, servility, and compliance are among the first values inculcated into children and the child-parent hierarchy serves to condition a child to acquiescence into future positions of subordination.
This.
Sand Castle
6th July 2014, 02:58
Mine taught me how to do drugs, and how not to do drugs. They didn't sit down and tell me this, they taught through examples and bad examples.
From their experiences, I learned this.
Don't drink. You will end up getting into stupid fights and making a scene.
Don't do anything that requires a needle. Seriously, just don't. Mom did this.
Don't do crack. You'll end up losing your cellphone and your car to the drug dealer just so you can get another rock. It happens when you run out of money. I learned this from watching my dads fuck ups for two years.
It's alright if you want to smoke pot. Just be responsible with your time and money. You'll generally be OK.
That is what I learned through observing my parents' behavior.
Ceallach_the_Witch
15th July 2014, 15:03
my right to existence is predicated on my employment status (being 'able bodied' ofc it is of paramount importance that I am always in work no matter not and there is no excuse for me NOT being in work)
Ultimately, it is necessary to vote to have a valid opinion on politics.
no matter what, you must always obey the law
That I must accept authority to get along in life
that a balanced point of view, avoiding extremes, is always the best.
Even the far right have the right to have their opinions voiced
that I can walk down the street knocking on doors and get a job (what an experience in humiliation that was)
you must always forgive people (not be willing to forgive, but actually forgive no mater what - this isn't entirely negative but still, I ended up giving shitty people far more chances than they ever deserved)
always be moderate in expressing your opinions.
adipocere
15th July 2014, 18:03
VoX p°PuŁï: My grandparents are the ones who actually taught me stuff.
My grandparents were grifters too (carneys) and they said/did crap like that though maybe not so much to me as they seemed to want their children and grandchildren to "go legit" One of my grandmothers sage bits of advice: "don't date n*****s."
Trap Queen Voxxy
16th July 2014, 03:56
My grandparents were grifters too (carneys) and they said/did crap like that though maybe not so much to me as they seemed to want their children and grandchildren to "go legit" One of my grandmothers sage bits of advice: "don't date n*****s."
Woah that's neat. Yeah their biggest thing which all my siblings except me didn't listen to was the importance of legtimate work and being honest and legitimate. It wasn't until recently, unfortunately, that everything they taught me make sense and hit me like a big huge wave of wtf were you thinking?! Now my grandmas voice is my jimney cricket.
Thirsty Crow
16th July 2014, 06:16
Recently new folks moved into the apartment building where I live. I'd say early 30s, and assume they're what Americans would call professionals, probably of higher education, with a decent job, maybe in management or law or something.
So far our interaction has been restricted to "hello" "hello", but few days earlier the guy stopped to make some small talk. I used the plural pronoun which connotes a kind of respect and he picked up on it and promptly reacted along the lines of "You're really talking like that to me?". Made me feel a bit embarrassed, saying "Oh, yeah it's a habit".
And it is a habit, and a consequence of my mother's insistence on special respect shown to elders, mixing it up to a point with special respect for formal figures and people like neighbors. So yeah, not really a shitty thing in itself but in retrospect I assume it could have led to a lack of a critical attitude. Fortunately other aspects of my upbringing probably counteracted this.
There's probably other stuff I could talk about here but I don't feel like it now.
PC LOAD LETTER
16th July 2014, 06:42
Recently new folks moved into the apartment building where I live. I'd say early 30s, and assume they're what Americans would call professionals, probably of higher education, with a decent job, maybe in management or law or something.
So far our interaction has been restricted to "hello" "hello", but few days earlier the guy stopped to make some small talk. I used the plural pronoun which connotes a kind of respect and he picked up on it and promptly reacted along the lines of "You're really talking like that to me?". Made me feel a bit embarrassed, saying "Oh, yeah it's a habit".
And it is a habit, and a consequence of my mother's insistence on special respect shown to elders, mixing it up to a point with special respect for formal figures and people like neighbors. So yeah, not really a shitty thing in itself but in retrospect I assume it could have led to a lack of a critical attitude. Fortunately other aspects of my upbringing probably counteracted this.
There's probably other stuff I could talk about here but I don't feel like it now.Ah, yeah, sounds like you were brought up to speak like a lot of us are taught to speak in the southern US ... unnecessarily formal to peers because it's 'polite'.
Chris
19th July 2014, 01:55
Was more raised by the family in general than my parents in particular (farmer, lived in a home of four generations since birth), so I got different kinds of shit from different family members. My great-grandmother taught me that Germans are evil assholes, my grandmother taught me that foreigners in general aren't to be trusted (along with anyone born in a city), my grandfather taught me women are stupid, the USA is great and most other races are inferior (with the exception of Filipinos; he was a sailor in the norwegian merchant marine, so worked quite a bit with Filipinos), my mom didn't really teach me much due to mental illness (but what she did teach me was mostly good, such as fascists are vermin) and my father taught me intellectuals and experts are automatically better than others (a note, he's a guy who never attended high school).
My aunt, uncle, great-uncle and grandmothers' second cousin (all of whom used to live on the farm back when I was a kid) didn't really teach me anything particularly shitty. Other things I was taught mostly revolved around the value of hard work and honesty, as well as purely practical matters. Oh, and pride in class, both as farmers and as working class.
Anglo-Saxon Philistine
19th July 2014, 10:32
Recently new folks moved into the apartment building where I live. I'd say early 30s, and assume they're what Americans would call professionals, probably of higher education, with a decent job, maybe in management or law or something.
So far our interaction has been restricted to "hello" "hello", but few days earlier the guy stopped to make some small talk. I used the plural pronoun which connotes a kind of respect and he picked up on it and promptly reacted along the lines of "You're really talking like that to me?". Made me feel a bit embarrassed, saying "Oh, yeah it's a habit".
And it is a habit, and a consequence of my mother's insistence on special respect shown to elders, mixing it up to a point with special respect for formal figures and people like neighbors. So yeah, not really a shitty thing in itself but in retrospect I assume it could have led to a lack of a critical attitude. Fortunately other aspects of my upbringing probably counteracted this.
There's probably other stuff I could talk about here but I don't feel like it now.
I think most of us - I mean people raised in Croatia in the late eighties-early nineties - were taught to speak that way. My speech tends to be extremely formal - particularly since I came to the capital from a province - to the extent that people assume I'm not from Croatia (my tendency to mumble due to my bad hearing doesn't help).
Rosa Partizan
19th July 2014, 10:50
Recently new folks moved into the apartment building where I live. I'd say early 30s, and assume they're what Americans would call professionals, probably of higher education, with a decent job, maybe in management or law or something.
So far our interaction has been restricted to "hello" "hello", but few days earlier the guy stopped to make some small talk. I used the plural pronoun which connotes a kind of respect and he picked up on it and promptly reacted along the lines of "You're really talking like that to me?". Made me feel a bit embarrassed, saying "Oh, yeah it's a habit".
And it is a habit, and a consequence of my mother's insistence on special respect shown to elders, mixing it up to a point with special respect for formal figures and people like neighbors. So yeah, not really a shitty thing in itself but in retrospect I assume it could have led to a lack of a critical attitude. Fortunately other aspects of my upbringing probably counteracted this.
There's probably other stuff I could talk about here but I don't feel like it now.
So how did you adress him? With "vi"? I would've done the same and actually, I don't find it too formal if it's a grown up person you don't/barely know. But of course I prefer when I'm offered "ti".
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