View Full Version : What would a Green one-party dictatorship look like?
mindsword
5th June 2014, 20:16
Imagine this: The GREEN (environmental) party of a theoretical country suddenly gains mass militant support (for some reason), and leads a successful Bolshevik style uprising and overthrows the former government.
How would that shit go? How would the economy be run? I imagine cannabis and hemp would be legalized in a matter of microseconds, so no more victimless criminals clogging the prisons.
Would it be authoritarian? Like executions left n right for spitting chewing gum (that shit takes a million years to decompose!), raiding houses for aerosoul cans and anti-freeze & forcing people to live in eco-friendly tree huts using only solar batteries? Or would they be more chill out, grow veggies, smoke a dutch and invest in eco-technology and biofuels?
Remus Bleys
5th June 2014, 20:21
At most this should be in Learning, as you have posed a scenario, a question, without giving any theoretical underpinnings. But even then, surely this belongs in Non-Political, or even Chit-Chat, as it cannot possibly be a serious question.
Anti-Traditional
5th June 2014, 20:25
Probably like the Soviet Union but with less factories
Rafiq
5th June 2014, 20:38
It is not as though Bolshevik militancy can be adopted and mimicked by any political movement without the necessary context and foundations exclusive to a revolutionary proletarian movement.
Per Levy
5th June 2014, 21:09
well a rather odd scenario, especially considering that most favoured gouerment style of the greens is a parliamentary democracy.
but for the sake of argument, if that would happen the greens would use the power given to them to crush that militancy that has given them the power in the first place and after that is done returning to parliamentary democracy.
Red Commissar
6th June 2014, 22:12
Some greens would probably like to think it'd end up like Ecotopia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecotopia), but more likely it'll be a mess and probably not that differentiable from other countries. Maybe nicer parks and streets though. They'd have free reign on implementing the policies amicable to them of course, but beyond that it's hard to say. The problem with this is that Greens politically, especially nowadays, are harder to lump together because economically they go anywhere from leftist types to social democrats to market liberals. This isn't even including the deep ecology types whose ideal view of the world is very different from the predominant green parties in legislatures.
A one-party state ruled by any of those types would be different from one another in some way.
PhoenixAsh
6th June 2014, 22:42
It would inevitably suffer from a pro-meat counter revolution and all the horrible greens would be hanged from their favorite hugging tree. This sounds horrible but really it is just poetic since their decaying corpses would provide nutrients for the plants and grass on which many cows will grace. Once every year a huge BBQ party will be held in honor of the liberation of the meat eating class.
Everybody benefits.
TL: DR
yeah...green revolution sounds totally plausible :rolleyes:
Anyways...it is just bourgeois democracy minus the meat and paper.
TheSocialistMetalhead
6th June 2014, 23:22
Uhm, if they suddenly were to grow a revolutionary perspective (heh, get it? Grow.) than perhaps this would be possible... Still, extremely unlikely though. The green movement would have to get a lot more principled as well. I hope you realize the chances of this ever happening are next to none, green parties are more than happy to just take part in liberal democracy and nothing more.
In terms of it being positive or not... could go both ways I guess. It would definitely put us in a very weird position. Chances are, they would make a lot of people live more... shal we say... sparingly? Yeah, that sounds right: sparingly. A lot of greens still blame a lot of the environmental problems on the way the common man lives, saying that the amount of gas and electricity you can use should be regulated. There is of course some truth to this but most of it is still due to large corporations and governments that simply aren't willing to speak any other language than cold hard cash.
Os Cangaceiros
6th June 2014, 23:26
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Linkola
TheSocialistMetalhead
6th June 2014, 23:32
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Linkola
That is just frightening...
Tenka
7th June 2014, 05:40
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Linkola
To the gas chambers,
All ye wasteful.
Tis for greater good,
The mother Earth,
And all her creatures.
Ten percent of Man
Deserves to stay;
Those ascetics,
Noble & White, who
Most frugally live.
(sry for the amateur and unbeautiful poem)
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