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Gracchus R.
3rd June 2014, 05:28
Hi,
i've been stalking this forum for a couple of days and decide to join in. Seem to have a lot of nice peoples here, almost as many as there different political view on this forum. I'm a philosophy student, but I mostly defined myself as an autodidact (for what is about my education).
I'm mainly and firstly a Rousseauist. (Don't panic, I'm also a communist). I stopped counting the number of times I read ''Du Contrat Social'' and my favorite book is ''L'Émile ou de l'Éducation''. I will stop here about Rousseau, otherwise it will end presenting him instead of myself. (If you have any questions about my friend J.-J. and is ideas, fell free to ask.)
I've choose Gracchus as pseudonyme in the honor of the Grachii brothers and in the honor of Gracchus Babeuf (wich he rename himself in the honor of the Gracchii brothers and their agrarian reform). The R. is because Gracchus was already use and the letter R came to my mind, both for Robespierre and Rousseau. (Yes, big fan of the French Revolution history here).
Also, i'm a frenchspeaker, sorry if i do any mistake. Don't force me to start an anti-gramfa group. (The quote in my signature is a home made translation)
On this, see you on the forum camarades !
Welcome :)
If you have political questions, you can ask them in the Learning forum. That's why it's there after all!
If you have questions about your account, don't hesitate to send me a PM or ask here.
Zoroaster
3rd June 2014, 21:46
A Rousseauist and a communist. I guess that's a thing nowadays. What a strange and beautiful world we live in.
Slavoj Zizek's Balls
3rd June 2014, 22:17
Hi,
i've been stalking this forum for a couple of days and decide to join in. Seem to have a lot of nice peoples here, almost as many as there different political view on this forum. I'm a philosophy student, but I mostly defined myself as an autodidact (for what is about my education).
I'm mainly and firstly a Rousseauist. (Don't panic, I'm also a communist). I stopped counting the number of times I read ''Du Contrat Social'' and my favorite book is ''L'Émile ou de l'Éducation''. I will stop here about Rousseau, otherwise it will end presenting him instead of myself. (If you have any questions about my friend J.-J. and is ideas, fell free to ask.)
I've choose Gracchus as pseudonyme in the honor of the Grachii brothers and in the honor of Gracchus Babeuf (wich he rename himself in the honor of the Gracchii brothers and their agrarian reform). The R. is because Gracchus was already use and the letter R came to my mind, both for Robespierre and Rousseau. (Yes, big fan of the French Revolution history here).
Also, i'm a frenchspeaker, sorry if i do any mistake. Don't force me to start an anti-gramfa group. (The quote in my signature is a home made translation)
On this, see you on the forum camarades !
Hey Jean-Jacques Rous... I mean Gracchus. I have a question. I had difficulty reading "Of The Social Contract" and was wondering if you had any advice for tackling the work.
motion denied
3rd June 2014, 22:23
I liked your intro.
Welcome :lol:
Gracchus R.
3rd June 2014, 22:23
I'm the only one I know that call himself a rousseauist anyway. And I strongly believe that Rousseauism and communism are really close. Even, I think that Rousseau had somehow an influence on Marx, directly or indirectly. Rousseau view on economics and society sounds realy communist (even if he was there before marxism). I don't see why it look strange.
Gracchus R.
3rd June 2014, 22:44
Hey Jean-Jacques Rous... I mean Gracchus. I have a question. I had difficulty reading "Of The Social Contract" and was wondering if you had any advice for tackling the work.
I don't know if it could be the translation that make it hard to understand. If it is not, I don't want to give you bad advise only to answer to your demand. Anyway, there is some advises:
Rousseau was a big fan of antiquity history and litteratures, maybe look for a version with notes. Maybe it will help you. He don't volontary want to confuse you with his knowledge, he is not that kind of guy (I know him).
The first part of the Social Contract is somehow not the easiest part. It is more a kind of anthropologic thinking. The others part are more about how a good society should be build and how it should work. Skip the first part maybe and come back later.
The Legislator thing is trully THE lack of his Social Contract. He himself admitted that this part was not really good and that it was to be remade.
To understand more the general idea of Rousseau, maybe read (or become aware) of is others work like the Discoures on Political Economics, the Discourse on Arts and Sciences and the Discourse on the Origin of Inequality Among Men.
If it is something else that coufuse you, just tell.
Slavoj Zizek's Balls
3rd June 2014, 23:11
I don't know if it could be the translation that make it hard to understand. If it is not, I don't want to give you bad advise only to answer to your demand. Anyway, there is some advises:
Rousseau was a big fan of antiquity history and litteratures, maybe look for a version with notes. Maybe it will help you. He don't volontary want to confuse you with his knowledge, he is not that kind of guy (I know him).
The first part of the Social Contract is somehow not the easiest part. It is more a kind of anthropologic thinking. The others part are more about how a good society should be build and how it should work. Skip the first part maybe and come back later.
The Legislator thing is trully THE lack of his Social Contract. He himself admitted that this part was not really good and that it was to be remade.
To understand more the general idea of Rousseau, maybe read (or become aware) of is others work like the Discoures on Political Economics, the Discourse on Arts and Sciences and the Discourse on the Origin of Inequality Among Men.
If it is something else that coufuse you, just tell.
You have been most helpful. Merci beaucoup!
Gracchus R.
3rd June 2014, 23:18
You have been most helpful. Merci beaucoup!
Bienvenue, ça fait plaisir d'aider, surtout quand il est question de Rousseau. Je viens de remarquer ton avatar, alors je me permet de me libérer de la version anglaise de mes pensés pour quelques secondes.
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Welcome, it's my pleasure to help, especially when it comes to Rousseau. I just noticed your avatar, so I can free myself from the English version of my thoughts for a few seconds.
RedWorker
3rd June 2014, 23:54
Welcome. :)
You can explain your political views in more detail, if you want.
Gracchus R.
4th June 2014, 00:54
Politically, I support and follow ''Le Front de Gauche'' and Jean-Luc Mélenchon (France), altough I am not French.
As I said, I concider myself as both a Rousseauist and a Marxist (both being compatible). i think that the dictatorship of the proletariat can be (and probably is) the general will. I think that human nature is good (and yes, I think we have an human nature, which is not truly a materialistic way of viewing things, but as Rousseau, I have myself paradox that fit anyway in my global thinking). Society is rule by bourgeois, which alienate us, in the same way that Rousseau said that society pervert human nature.
I'm ok with violence if it is use for good purpose and in the good way. The good way being the killing of those who are in state of war against the vertuous people. Killing someone who stand for the master or is a master himself, is justice, because they can found death in a fight for what I (and many of us) see as being the natural right of Men.
I want a decentralised State, and when communism is accomplish, the disband of any association and union, the communist society being the only associtation of man necessary for the common good (and any other sub-society being representative of a particular will).
I'm not sur if a perfect equal paid should be right (maybe in a finalized communist society), altought I think that we have to make a maximum salary anyway.
I'm myself a Deist (because I think their is an essence to the World and to Human Being) and think that religion is a tool of the bourgeoisie, maybe in the same way that Tolstoy feel about is own feeling about christianity and is view on orthodoxy and catholicism.
I don't put myself in a sub-communist group, and don't feel the need of it.
I still have one true dilemma: do we have to change society to change Men or do we have to change Men to change society ? I think that i favor the first option, knowing what education and society is doing right now to the majority of the people.
The Idler
4th June 2014, 22:09
Welcome and Bonjour.
Psycho P and the Freight Train
4th June 2014, 22:29
A good-sized coherent post about your political views, very nice. Welcome :grin:
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