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Dodo
14th May 2014, 18:33
I have not seen any thread about this.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27406195
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27415293

On 13th of May, there was an explosion in a mine. Current number of dead is around mid-200s, more than 100, maybe 200, or maybe even more are still stuck in the mines. A mine that was privatized, and was asked by opposition to be investigated a couple of weaks ago for lack of safety to which the leading party refused.


There are general strikes coming on and trade-unions are coming out in force for the first time in decades the way I see it, combined with the middle-class/student opposition since last year.
As we are 2 weeks off the anniversary of Gezi events last year, things have already heated up significantly.

Dodo
15th May 2014, 01:07
its pretty big news people, don't understand why there is no attention over it

PhoenixAsh
15th May 2014, 01:28
There are riots and Erdogan had to hide in a supermarket.

RebelDog
15th May 2014, 08:17
A terrible tragedy. Miners have so often had to pay the ultimate price so the bosses can make their profit from anothers sweat and blood. The bosses are parasitical scum and their system is a cancer on humanity. My sympathy and solidarity with the miners, their families and community. Why should someone lose their lives for these bastards? Let justice be done. The firing squad.

willwinall
15th May 2014, 08:20
The worst part is that no one will care in a few months, and all those who died will just be forgotten.

exeexe
15th May 2014, 09:04
The thing is if this had happened in a communist state society then, to some on this forum, it would just had been a calculated risc of the party program. Maybe thats why not so many have commented on it..

Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant'
15th May 2014, 10:04
The thing is if this had happened in a communist state society then, to some on this forum, it would just had been a calculated risc of the party program. Maybe thats why not so many have commented on it..

..huh?

Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant'
15th May 2014, 10:09
A horrible tragedy that will act as another catalyst for action against the Erdogan government. Deepest sympathy for the victims, their families and friends and solidarity to them and others who've been spurred into fighting against the government.

RedHal
15th May 2014, 11:50
its pretty big news people, don't understand why there is no attention over it

this is revleft, if it doesn't concern eating meat, sectarianism, or something crazy from the DPRK, it's not going to get much traffic. Remember the tragic Bangladesh factory collapse didn't get much attention here.

Tim Cornelis
15th May 2014, 12:02
its pretty big news people, don't understand why there is no attention over it


this is revleft, if it doesn't concern eating meat, sectarianism, or something crazy from the DPRK, it's not going to get much traffic. Remember the tragic Bangladesh factory collapse didn't get much attention here.

I personally have been following the tragedy, but there's nothing to discuss. It's a tragedy with human lives sacrificed for profit, something we all know and agree on.

Kaoxic
15th May 2014, 13:17
These are the kind of disgusting crimes against workers you can expect whern there are no unions.

GiantMonkeyMan
15th May 2014, 13:27
I personally have been following the tragedy, but there's nothing to discuss. It's a tragedy with human lives sacrificed for profit, something we all know and agree on.
But it's also lead to a one day strike from the miners and rioting from protesters throughout Turkey. I need to understand more about the broader situation in Turkey but it definitely seems like there's a potential for radical change.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27415822


Trade unions in Turkey are holding a one-day strike in protest at the country's worst ever mine disaster, which has claimed at least 282 lives.

Thousands have taken to the streets in cities across the country; clashes are reported to have broken out in Izmir.

Meanwhile, President Abdullah Gul is visiting the scene of the disaster, as Turkey begins three days of mourning.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was booed and jostled by angry protesters during his visit to Soma on Wednesday.

Anger also erupted against the government in several cities around the country.

Several unions are reportedly taking part in the 24-hour strike, and blame the privatisation of the mining sector for making working conditions more dangerous.

Dodo
15th May 2014, 16:39
Yeah, thats why it is kind of "special". Most protests were led by students, middle-class opposition types and radical left organizations . The general strike had not happened in Turkey in decades.
Workers boing and trying to lynch the prime minister was quiet a sight as well.

Sinister Intents
15th May 2014, 16:44
The thing is if this had happened in a communist state society then, to some on this forum, it would just had been a calculated risc of the party program. Maybe thats why not so many have commented on it..

I love how you contradicted yourself by saying communist state, unless you're specifically talking of the USSR and China as communist states even though they're not. But yeah perhaps some RevLeft users think this way, but I haven't seen that.

May those that died rest in peace. This is so sad to read about.

Leo
16th May 2014, 21:47
I posted this on the ICC forums:

Just a few notes: yesterday there's been demonstrations all over Turkey, attacked by the police violently. The insolent PM had gone to Soma where the massacre happened, and was protested by the families of the miners. He had to hide in a supermarket because of the protests.
In Ankara, Yatagan miners who were protesting in the city and some students supporting them occupied the HQs of Turk-Is, the main trade-union confederation, protesting about its decision to have 3 minute "strikes" in work-places for a week to protests. Eventually Turk-Is had to participate in the strike by the leftist unions today, which appears to have been the numerically strongest one-day strike in perhaps two decades.
Workers families in Soma protested President Abdullah Gul, the government, Soma municipality and the miners union.
I've read claims that the number of the dead is as high as 900.


http://en.internationalism.org/forum/1056/baboon/9786/miners-killed-turkey

ckaihatsu
18th May 2014, 15:37
[email protected] #91 - Rising death toll turns mine accident in Turkey to carnage


NEWSFEED: International Union Struggles

http://www.revleft.com/vb/newsfeed-international-union-t187479/index.html

adipocere
18th May 2014, 16:55
Turkey mine disaster: aide to PM pictured kicking protester: (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/15/turkey-mine-disaster-aid-pm-pictures-kicking-protester)http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/5/15/1400158263876/Yusuf-Yerkel-kicks-a-prot-011.jpg

Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant'
19th May 2014, 09:36
Turkey mine disaster: aide to PM pictured kicking protester: (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/15/turkey-mine-disaster-aid-pm-pictures-kicking-protester)http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/5/15/1400158263876/Yusuf-Yerkel-kicks-a-prot-011.jpg

I saw that pic on the BBC just now...he seemed to be very into kicking the guy while two uniformed men had him on the ground, disgusting.

exeexe
19th May 2014, 10:04
Wow:

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever
George Orwell


Turkey mine disaster: aide to PM pictured kicking protester: (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/15/turkey-mine-disaster-aid-pm-pictures-kicking-protester)http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/5/15/1400158263876/Yusuf-Yerkel-kicks-a-prot-011.jpg

exeexe
19th May 2014, 10:16
I love how you contradicted yourself by saying communist state,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state
So i should call it a Marxist-Leninist state instead?

synthesis
19th May 2014, 10:54
A picture really is worth a thousand words. One photo can do more to change the way that people who aren't there think about the situation than a hundred articles on the subject, whether it's this or My Lai or that vulture in the Sudan. So, I don't know how the math works out on that, but if each article has at least ten words then the maxim holds true.

ckaihatsu
20th May 2014, 22:21
Turkey: This is not an accident, it is a massacre

At least 301 miners dead in Soma Mines, Turkey

By Communist Party of Turkey

MAY 17, 2014

http://www.pslweb.org/liberationnews/news/turkey-not-accident-murder.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=partial&utm_campaign=Liberation%20Newsletter

adipocere
22nd May 2014, 21:43
Hope the next story about this fucker is an obit.


Turkish PM's aide given sick leave after kicking mine disaster protester (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/19/turkish-pm-aide-sick-leave-kicking-mine-disaster-protester)

Yusuf Yerkel is diagnosed with soft tissue trauma in his right leg - the one he used to lay in to the demonstrator




Turkey mine disaster: aide to PM pictured kicking protester: (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/15/turkey-mine-disaster-aid-pm-pictures-kicking-protester)http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/5/15/1400158263876/Yusuf-Yerkel-kicks-a-prot-011.jpg

DasComrade
23rd May 2014, 13:50
The thing is they had already protested about the working condition of the mine which was apparently very poor. Just shows you how much their government cares.


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cyu
6th June 2014, 18:15
http://www.revleft.com/vb/your-favorite-political-t171310/index30.html

http://brabantsolidarity.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/unnamed-4.jpg

http://brabantsolidarity.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/revolutionary-anarchist-actions-statement-about-the-soma-miners-who-have-been-killed-by-the-state/

The minister of energy, minister of labour and the prime minister tried to hide the real number of miners who have died while declaring that “it was a sad work accident”.

police attacked the people who protested the creators of this massacre. The state and its armed forces thought they could prevent this anger with plastic bullets, tear gas and gas bombs. But the ones who are in the streets shout together: “Murderer state.”

they are the murderers who forced the people to work hundreds of meters under the surface for gaining money to live. They are the murderers who forced people to work in such condititions where death is inevitable.

We are sorrowful for the ones who were murdered in the mines by capitalists and the state. We are in the street with anger against these murderers. We are not mourning, this is rebellion. Our sorrow is the seed of our anger

http://brabantsolidarity.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/unnamed-6.jpg

http://brabantsolidarity.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/unnamed-7.jpg