Meeting of Feminist pornographers in Toronto

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Feminist porn.

Your thoughts, revlefters?

It's almost 01:00 in the morning in a hotel room in downtown Toronto, and three porn stars in various states of undress are choreographing the sex scene they are about to film.
The performers include a man, a woman, and a transgender man, opening a world of sexual possibilities.
"So what are we doing?" James Darling, the 26-year-old transgender performer, asks his co-stars Wolf Hudson and Zahra Stardust. "What are people feeling up to?"
The trio talk over ideas for costumes and props and negotiate their "dos and don'ts" - sex talk so frank and detailed it made a visitor cringe and stare into his notebook.
Meanwhile, the crew, Kitty Stryker and Courtney Trouble, set up the lights and the cameras.
They settle on a storyline so implausible it smacks of self-parody, something about a woman hiring a male prostitute only to have Darling and the other man show up at once. The lights and cameras click on, and the clothes come off.
This group were some of the more than 250 porn performers, filmmakers, fans and academic researchers who convened in Toronto last month for an international gathering of feminist pornographers.
At an awards show and an academic conference at the University of Toronto, they celebrated achievements in the small but growing genre - and debated what it means for their porn to be feminist.
"If it's possible to have sex in a feminist way, it's possible to record it in a feminist way," says Pandora Blake, a 29-year-old London-based sex worker, pornographer and porn performer.

(Full article - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27192724)

[Rosa Partizan]

very, very ambigous about that one. Have to gather my thoughts and then come up with some premium post. No just joking, but I really have to think about it. I see some problematic issues when sex and money come together, but I guess this might be a lot better than 99% of what you see on the internet. Will write later something more elaborate, though.

[adipocere]

The only Feminist porn I'm interested in:
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2008/08/21/farc460x276.jpg
https://vkb.isvg.org/@api/deki/files/166/=Zapatista_group_image.jpg?size=webview
http://marxistleninist.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/cubavive.jpg

[Sasha]

The only Feminist porn I'm interested in:
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2008/08/21/farc460x276.jpg
https://vkb.isvg.org/@api/deki/files/166/=Zapatista_group_image.jpg?size=webview
http://marxistleninist.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/cubavive.jpg


yeah, because objectifying women to a "your even hotter when your holding a gun" and "lets give you a sexy uniform sugar tits" is really prime leftist feminist stuff. no thank you, i'll take the feminist porn any day as the more progressive thing, at least there its clear thas their function is only about sexual arousal.

[Sinister Intents]

Where the hell do you even find feminist porn?

[Rosa Partizan]

Where the hell do you even find feminist porn?

this might be interesting for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puzzy_Power

http://www.puzzypower.dk/UK/index.php/om-os/manifest

[adipocere]

yeah, because objectifying women to a "your even hotter when your holding a gun" and "lets give you a sexy uniform sugar tits" is really prime leftist feminist stuff. no thank you, i'll take the feminist porn any day as the more progressive thing, at least there its clear thas their function is only about sexual arousal.

If a man said that to me in real life, I would probably spit in his face. So go fuck yourself - or better yet, put on some "feminist porn" and go rub one off into a sock since that is certainly the biggest contribution you will ever make to women's struggle.

[Sasha]

:lol:

Might I advise you to write the following on a post it and stick it to your monitor; "i should not assume anything about the IRL activities of people I meet online, it keeps making me look like a total idiot"...

[adipocere]

:lol:

Might I advise you to write the following on a post it and stick it to your monitor; "i should not assume anything about the IRL activities of people I meet online, it keeps making me look like a total idiot"...
After you.

Actually, let me add this: I get that you troll my posts. I do the same to you because I think you are a shill. But don't try to pretend to be a friend to women by denigrating real life, meaningful struggle and insinuating that those women who do more for humanity in a day than you or I ever will in a lifetime from our cozy western nests, are somehow remotely comparable in any conceivable way to "feminists" in porn.

So to be fair, if a woman said that to me in real life I would spit on the floor.

[Rosa Partizan]

Still haven't figured out a position about that kind of porn...but I'd like to throw in a question: Is it that important that we have porn anyway? This question has nothing to do with moralist, puritan reasons, it's just meant the way I asked it, out of curiosity. I myself watched some decent amount of porn when I was "younger" (early 20ies) and somehow, my phantasy dwarfed...I needed more (and harder) porn to get aroused, without porn, there were no sexual "movies" inside my head. I just wasn't able to develop them by myself. Having read some boards about that topic, this is a problem for many, many people. You can call it addiction, somehow. Not having watched porn for a long time now, I feel able to make up my own movies with my own settings, better than anything that I had ever watched. I feel like we should encourage THIS, you know, own ideas, imagination and stuff.

[Sasha]

Where the hell do you even find feminist porn?

i suppose for real "feminist" porn they have their own niche market with specialized distribution and festivals and such, but female friendly/orientated porn you can buy at any female orientated sex-toy/lingerie shop which most larger cities tend to have at least one or two of.

[Hrafn]

... Wait, there's people who buy porn?

[Sasha]

Yes, esp in the more specific genres in general and even more so in the female orientated porn industry (one of the reasons lots of studios are trying to make it) within a more average opposite sex relationship its apperently more easy to say to your partner "i went to buy up this sexy clothes and I also picked up this DVD is saw there shall we watch it together?" Then "I went on the internet and downloaded this porn, let's watch it" (implying you know where to download porn, which even most straight males wouldnt admit to their partner, let alone females)

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Its not my cup of tea. I know popular opinion of me is that I am super sex-positive and super promiscuous and all, but I actually normally have no sex drive. I normally am turned off by sexual stuff. Boooooorrrrrrriiiiiinnnnngggggg. I can't see myself not being opposed to porn. I mean theoretically if some couple videotaped themselves for their own personal stash or whatever or where someone doesn't profit off another person in a way that creates a hierarchy. I'm sure how porn could actually not be not feminist. But this is making my head dizzy so that is all I can say for now.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

As someone who has consumed a fair amount of porn since his teenage years (because I'm socially inept and visually I'm a human Gila monster), I think I can say this fairly authoritatively:

The vast majority of porn isn't just shallow and demeaning....it just plain sucks.

All modern porn ends the exact same way...the cumming on the woman's face. Now, I know a couple of women who like that, but most woman absolutely hate it (imagine someone splashing syrup on your face...only it's stickier and it burns your eyes). There's no art to it. It's always the same camera angles, the same crude special effects, and the same series of fucking positions. Even the girl-girl scenes have become completely routine and superficial.

But as for whether or not humans need porn.....the fact of the matter is that its not really a question of 'need'. Humans are just fascinated with watching other people fuck, even before human civilization as we know it came into existence (just look at some of the stuff painted on cave walls).

Obviously, alot of the mainstream porn industry is exploitative and sleazy in the extreme. There's alot of veteran porn actors and actresses (like Nina Hartley) who can tell you horror stories about extreme drug use and STDs.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Where the hell do you even find feminist porn?

Usually in the darker sections of your local porno dispensary.