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Os Cangaceiros
5th May 2014, 04:08
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Really interesting documentary I thought, worth a watch if the subject matter intrigues you.

I thought the most interesting part was all the inmates talking about how the "vor code" was getting constantly undermined and ignored by the new influx of post-USSR prisoners, who only cared about drugs and money (with more Russian "new money" & addicts coming in the penitentiaries).

The whole bit of prison mythology in regards to tattoos of Marx and Lenin was interesting too.
Ele'ill
5th May 2014, 06:05
watched a doc on this before it was interesting

a book store in town has a book on a lot of the russian criminal tattoo code and on page for thief they have their security sensor
BIXX
5th May 2014, 08:07
watched a doc on this before it was interesting

a book store in town has a book on a lot of the russian criminal tattoo code and on page for thief they have their security sensor


Do you by any chance remember what book?
Ele'ill
5th May 2014, 08:11
I like a lot of the placement of the tattoos and I like how they look but not really down with the meanings aside from maybe the thief symbolism


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51RSO2J2UCL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
BIXX
5th May 2014, 08:19
I like a lot of the placement of the tattoos and I like how they look but not really down with the meanings aside from maybe the thief symbolism


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51RSO2J2UCL._SL500_AA300_.jpg


I honestly don't know much about this subject. What meanings do they tend to have that bother you?
Ele'ill
5th May 2014, 08:33
a lot of them are nazi symbols, homophobic/transphobic, dominating, etc.. if you do a google search for russian criminal tattoos a lot of it pops up its become fairy trendy i guess.
BIXX
5th May 2014, 08:35
a lot of them are nazi symbols, homophobic/transphobic, dominating, etc.. if you do a google search for russian criminal tattoos a lot of it pops up its become fairy trendy i guess.


Yeah I did a little googling after I asked and a lot of them do seem to be fucked up. I kinda like the ones about being friends in a place of confinement and the ones about thievery. Still haven't finished looking yet.

ETA: there seem to be some anti-authoritarian ones as well.
Ele'ill
5th May 2014, 08:46
a lot of the anti-authoritarian ones are anti communist and pro nazi though
BIXX
5th May 2014, 08:49
a lot of the anti-authoritarian ones are anti communist and pro nazi though


Yeah I've noticed the anti-communist sentiment. Te thing I'm reading doesn't delve much into the pro-nazi ideas behind them but I don't doubt it.