The Kansas shooter is a former KKK leader

[AmilcarCabral]

The Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights organization that tracks hate groups, said suspected shooter Frazier Glenn Cross has been known to them for years under the aliases Glenn Miller or Frazier Glenn Miller and that he is the former Grand Dragon of the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

Cross quit high school and became a member of the elite Green Berets, serving two tours in Vietnam. However, he was forced to retire in 1979 because of his Klan affiliation, according to the SPLC.

Later he became active in a neo-Nazi group called “The Order” that advocated violence against Jews and African Americans, the SPLC said.

Source: http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Kansas-shooter-is-former-KKK-leader-civil-rights-group-says-348462

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[tachosomoza]

The Order was nuts. They'd rob armored cars and use the money to fund other white supremacist organizations. Their leader died in a shootout with the feds on an island in Washington, and they murdered a radio host in his driveway just because he was Jewish.

[RedHal]

he was a regular poster on the vnn forum (scumfront on steroids) went by the username Rounder

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=180671

not the first vnn/scumfront poster that went on a murdering spree.

[Bala Perdida]

I just heard on the news that he shouted "long live hitler" when he committed the murders.

[Rain]

Wow, VNN makes Stormfront look tolerable.

[~Spectre]

The most disheartening thing about this shooting was apparently he was connected with neo-paganism (Odinism or something like that). This is unfortunate because there's a vibrant neo-pagan community in my area and they're some of the most peaceful people I know and share a lot of pro-socialism/anti-fascism sentiment. I did some research and was taken aback by the white extremist activity within neo-paganism.


I somehow doubt that the worst part of this is that it might give negative press to a religious sect.

[tachosomoza]

Wow, VNN makes Stormfront look tolerable.

Scumfront wants to try to give a "respectable" face to fascism and racial chauvinism by refraining from using racial slurs. VNN doesn't give a shit. Think of Scumfront as being an oily politician with blow dried hair and a Brooks Brothers suit and VNN as the politician's paid enforcer that likes to crack open skulls.

[Sasha]

U.S. right wing extremists more deadly than jihadists

By Peter Bergen and David Sterman
April 15, 2014 -- Updated 2129 GMT (0529 HKT)


(CNN) -- On Sunday, a man shot and killed a 14-year-old boy and his grandfather at the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City and then drove to a nearby Jewish retirement community where he shot and killed a third person. Police arrested a suspect, Frazier Glenn Cross, who shouted "Heil Hitler" (http://www.kmbc.com/news/Camera-picks-up-suspect-s-rant-in-back-of-police-car/25459276?showAds=0)after he was taken into custody.
Cross, who also goes by Frazier Glenn Miller, (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/us/kansas-jewish-center-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1) is a well-known right wing extremist who founded the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and the White Patriot Party, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Now let's do the thought experiment in which instead of shouting "Heil Hitler" after he was arrested, the suspect had shouted "Allahu Akbar." Only two days before the first anniversary of the Boston Marathon bombings, this simple switch of words would surely have greatly increased the extent and type of coverage the incident received.

Peter Bergen


Yet the death toll in the shootings in Kansas is similar to that of last year's Boston Marathon bombings, where three people were killed and the suspects later killed a police officer as they tried to evade capture. (Many more, of course, were also wounded in the Boston attacks; 16 men, women and children lost limbs.)
In fact, since 9/11 extremists affiliated with a variety of far-right wing ideologies, including white supremacists, anti-abortion extremists and anti-government militants, have killed more people in the United States than have extremists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology. According to a count by the New America Foundation, right wing extremists have killed 34 people in the United States for political reasons since 9/11. (The total includes the latest shootings in Kansas, which are being classified as a hate crime (https://sg.news.yahoo.com/video/authorities-hate-motivated-kansas-shooting-175226708.html)).
"Since 9/11 extremists affiliated with a variety of far-right wing ideologies...have killed more people in the United States than have extremists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology."




By contrast, (http://natsec.newamerica.net/extremists/analysis) terrorists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology have killed 21 people in the United States since 9/11.
(Although a variety of left wing militants and environmental extremists have carried out violent attacks for political reasons against property and individuals since 9/11, none have been linked to a lethal attack, according to research by the New America Foundation.)
Moreover, since 9/11 none of the more than 200 individuals (http://bipartisanpolicy.org/sites/default/files/Jihadist%20Terrorism-A%20Threat%20Assesment_0.pdf) indicted or convicted in the United States of some act of jihadist terrorism have acquired or used chemical or biological weapons or their precursor materials, while 13 individuals motivated by right wing extremist ideology, one individual motivated by left-wing extremist ideology, and two with idiosyncratic beliefs, used or acquired such weapons or their precursors.
Opinion: Why do racists and anti-Semites kill? (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/15/opinion/blee-hate-groups/index.html)
A similar attack to the one that Frazier Glenn Cross is accused of in Kansas occurred in August 2012 when Wade Michael Page killed six people in a shooting at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin. Page was a member of a white supremacist band (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/06/13147115-experts-alleged-temple-gunman-wade-michael-page-led-neo-nazi-band-had-deep-extremist-ties) and associated with the Hammerskins, a white supremacist group. Page committed suicide during the attack.
Page is not, of course, the only right wing extremist to have used lethal violence to achieve political ends. In 2009, for instance, Shawna Forde, Albert Gaxiola, and Jason Bush raided a house in Arizona, killing Raul Flores and his daughter Brisenia. The three attackers sought (http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/14/arizona.double.killing.verdict/) to use the burglary to finance their anti-immigration vigilante group, Minutemen American Defense. Forde and Bush were convicted and sentenced to death (http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/rd-defendant-in-arivaca-double-murder-case-avoids-death-row/article_cd0f0dbe-af25-11e0-9a59-001cc4c002e0.html). Gaxiola was sentenced to life in prison.
Also in 2009, Scott Roeder murdered Dr. George Tiller, who ran an abortion clinic in Wichita, Kansas. In 2010 Roeder was convicted of first-degree murder (http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/28/kansas.abortion.roeder.verdict/). According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, Roeder not only had ties to the extreme anti-abortion movement, but he also had been pulled over while driving with a fake license plate bearing the markings of the Sovereign Citizens, a movement of individuals (http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/06/01/alleged-killer-of-abortion-doctor-has-decades-long-history-of-extremism/) who deny that the government has authority over them.


Of course, the deadliest terrorist attack (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/04/AR2005060400147.html) on American soil prior to 9/11 was the Oklahoma City bombing, which was masterminded by Timothy McVeigh, a man with deep ties to far-right militant circles. McVeigh killed 168 people when he bombed the Alfred P. Murrah federal building on April 19, 1995.
Despite this history of deadly violence by individuals motivated by political ideologies other than al Qaeda, it is jihadist violence that continues to dominate the news and the attention of policy makers.
Some of this is quite understandable. After all, on 9/11 al Qaeda's 19 terrorists killed almost 3,000 people in the space of a morning. Since then al Qaeda's branch in Yemen tried to bring down with a bomb secreted on a passenger an American commercial jet flying over Detroit on Christmas Day 2009 and al Qaeda's branch in Pakistan tried to launch bombings on the New York subway system a few months earlier. Luckily those plots didn't succeed, but certainly if they had the death toll would have been on a large scale.
Yet the disparity in media coverage between even failed jihadist terrorist attacks and this latest incident in Kansas is emblematic of a flawed division in the public's mind between killing that is purportedly committed in the name of Allah and killing that is committed for other political ends, such as neo-Nazi beliefs about the need to kill Jews.
Part of the reason for this disconnect might be that when a Department of Homeland Security report warning of violent right wing extremism was leaked in 2009, it generated a substantial political controversy.
In a 2011 interview with the Southern Poverty Law Center, (http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2011/summer/inside-the-dhs-former-top-analyst-says-agency-bowed) Daryl Johnson, the leader of the team that produced the report, argued that following the controversy, DHS's examination of such threats suffered, stating "Since our report was leaked, DHS has not released a single report of its own on this topic. Not anything dealing with non-Islamic domestic extremism—whether it's anti-abortion extremists, white supremacists, 'sovereign citizens,' eco-terrorists, the whole gamut."
The threat from al Qaeda and its associated forces has changed significantly since 9/11. Today, almost 13 years after 9/11, al Qaeda has not successfully conducted another attack inside the United States. And since 2011, no individual charged with plotting to conduct an al Qaeda-inspired terrorist attack inside the United States has acted with more than one accomplice. This demonstrates the difficulties today of forming a jihadist group sufficiently large enough to conduct a complex attack anything on the scale of 9/11, and is a tribute to the success of law enforcement agencies in detecting and deterring jihadist terrorist activity.
Today in the United States, al Qaeda-type terrorism is the province of individuals with no real connection to foreign terrorists, aside from reading their propaganda online. Given this, it becomes harder to explain, in terms of American national security, why violence by homegrown right wing extremists receives substantially less attention than does violence by homegrown jihadist militants.




source: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/14/opinion/bergen-sterman-kansas-shooting/

[Rain]

I somehow doubt that the worst part of this is that it might give negative press to a religious sect.


Well, of course people dying is the most tragic. I didn't mean it like that.

[tachosomoza]

Well, of course people dying is the most tragic. I didn't mean it like that.

Not just people dying, people being murdered because of who they are.

[Hrafn]

Well technically nobody was murdered because of who they are. From what I can tell, they were killed because of who the idiot thought they were.

[Sasha]

fascinating to read a few pages of that VNN thread, the whole hero/white kids murderer debate especially, how fucked up are you in your head if killing jewish or black kids is fantastic and killing white methodist kids is horrific? says a lot about the power of dehumanization and how genocide etc can happen, these people dont see jewish or black people as people anymore, they are literally vermin to them, non-humans, untermenschen.

[tachosomoza]

these people dont see jewish or black people as people anymore, they are literally vermin to them, non-humans, untermenschen.

Read some of those threads, some of them refer to black people as "it".

[Red Commissar]

As was posted elsewhere and mentioned in the OP here is the SPLC's profile of him.

http://www.splcenter.org/get%20informed/intelligence%20files/profiles/Glenn%20Miller

Date of Birth: 1940
Location: Springfield, Mo.
Ideology: Ku Klux Klan
http://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/detail/images/individual/glenn_miller_splc.jpg

Frazier Glenn Miller, also known as Frazier Glenn Cross, is the former “grand dragon” of the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, which he founded and ran in the 1980s before being sued by the Southern Poverty Law Center for operating an illegal paramilitary organization and using intimidation tactics against African Americans. After subsequently forming another Klan group, the White Patriot Party, he was found in criminal contempt and sentenced to six months in prison for violating the court settlement. He went underground while his conviction was under appeal but was caught by the FBI with a weapons cache in Missouri. He served three years in federal prison after being indicted on weapons charges and for plotting robberies and the assassination of SPLC founder Morris Dees. As part of a plea bargain, testified against other Klan leaders in a 1988 sedition trial. On April 13, 2014, Miller was arrested in the shooting deaths of three people at a Jewish community center and nearby retirement community in Overland Park, Kansas.

Criminal History:
In 1986, Miller was convicted on a federal contempt of court charge after violating the terms of a consent order that settled a lawsuit filed against him and his Klan group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. He was sentenced to a year in prison, with six months suspended. However, he disappeared while out on bond awaiting an appeal and was later caught in Missouri along with four other Klansmen and a cache of weapons.

In 1987, he pleaded guilty to a weapons charge and to mailing a threat through the mail. He had been indicted along with four other white supremacists for conspiring to acquire stolen military weapons, and for planning robberies and the assassination of SPLC founder Morris Dees. In an agreement with federal prosecutors, he received a five-year prison sentence in exchange for his testimony against 14 white supremacist leaders in a sedition trial. He served three years of that sentence.

In His Own Words:
“White men have become the biggest cowards ever to walk the earth. The world has never witnessed such yellow cowards. We’ve sat back and allowed the Jews to take over our government, our banks, and our media. We’ve allowed tens of millions of mud people to invade our country, steal our jobs and our women, and destroy our children’s futures. America is no longer ours. America belongs to the Jews who rule it and to the mud people who multiply in it.”
– U.S. Senate radio ad, 2010

“Today, true statistics be told, we’re less than half. And we’re dropping fast, while the dark peoples multiply like rats all around us, and as more tens-of-millions of them invade our country from all over the world. Our race is drowning literally in seas of colored mongrels. Our people buy almost twice as many caskets as cradles. Your race is dying before your eyes.”
– “Attention White Youth!” Miller’s website, March 12, 2010

“That’s a sad commentary for our politicians in Washington. They’re all a bunch of whores for Israel. They’re all corrupted to the core. And they are traitors to America.”
– Interview with Howard Stern, April 6, 2010

“Woman have always chosen cowardice and slavery over war and violence for the obvious reason they’re the weaker sex. And they have responded to White male cowardice in the only way they could. They kiss up to every male but White ones.”
– “Cowardice is the White Man’s Survival Strategy!” Miller’s website

“Our forefathers were absolutely right to be racists and to discriminate in favor of themselves. That racism and discrimination insured racial security, prosperity, and racial survival and procreation. ZOG and the Jews-media tricked us and shamed us out of our racism shame that has weakened us and divided us as a people, therefore cowards, unwilling to resist Jewish enslavement and genocide.”
– “Cowardice is the White Man’s Survival Strategy!” Miller’s website

Background:
Frazier Glenn Miller is the founder and former leader of both the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and the White Patriot Party, both of which were operated as paramilitary organizations in the 1980s.

Miller quit high school as a senior to join the U.S. Army. In 1979, he retired from the Army as a master sergeant after 20 years of active duty, including two tours in Vietnam and 13 years as a member of the elite Green Berets.

Miller claims he read a racist newspaper for the first time in the early 1970s when his father gave him a copy of The Thunderbolt, published by Ed Fields of the racist, anti-Semitic National States’ Rights Party. According to Miller, within two minutes of browsing through the tabloid, he knew he “had found a home within the American White Movement. I was ecstatic.” He joined the National States’ Rights Party in 1973, but soon left because, he later testified, it was “made up mostly of elderly people who were not that active.”

He then joined the National Socialist Party of America, a Nazi group whose members attacked and killed marchers associated with the Communist Workers Party in Greensboro, N.C., in 1979. The following year, due to his involvement with the Nazi group, the Greensboro shootout, and death threats against him and his family, his wife left him and moved with their children to Chicago.

Miller was forced to retire from the Army due to his Klan-related activities. He enrolled in Johnston Technical College in Smithfield, N.C., and also bought a 25-acre farm in Angier, N.C., near Raleigh. It was there, in late 1980, that he formed the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and began to amass illegal weapons and conduct military training with the help of active-duty soldiers. Miller wanted to model the Carolina Knights on Hitler’s Nazi Party. “I would try to emulate Hitler’s methods of attracting members and supporters,” he wrote in his autobiography. “In the years to come, for example, I placed great emphasis on staging marches and rallies. It had been successful with Hitler.”

Miller represented a new, militant breed of Klan leaders in the 1980s, preferring fatigues over the traditional Klan robe and training his troops in military tactics. He was not averse to publicity and began holding rallies and marches on a near-weekly basis up and down the Atlantic Seaboard. He announced his goal was to create a Carolina Free State, which would be an “all-white nation within the bounds of North and South Carolina.” He said his enemies were “niggers” and Jews. He boasted of having supporters at Fort Bragg, the nearby Army base that was home to a large contingent of U.S. special forces.

In 1983, after a black prison guard, Bobby Person, filed a discrimination suit against the North Carolina prison system, members of the Carolina Knights began to intimidate the plaintiff. They also harassed, threatened and intimidated other African Americans in the area. The SPLC, led by Morris Dees, sued Miller and his group in June 1984 – demanding they stop their campaign of intimidation and cease all paramilitary activity.

The SPLC lawyers did not know it at the time, but Miller had ties to The Order, a white nationalist terrorist organization whose members assassinated Denver talk show host Alan Berg just 13 days after the SPLC filed suit. The leader of the group, Robert Mathews, had given Miller $200,000 in cash that was part of the $3.8 million stolen during an armored car robbery. It was later revealed that Dees was at the top of The Order’s hit list. Miller testified in the 1988 trial of other white supremacists that Mathews told him “they were thinking about killing” Dees.

In January 1985, the SPLC reached a consent agreement with Miller that prevented the Knights from operating as a paramilitary group and from harassing, intimidating, threatening or harming any black person or white person who associated with black persons. A month later, however, Miller announced the formation of a new Klan group, the White Patriot Party. His goal was the same: the “unification of white people.” He vowed to operate peacefully – unless the federal government infringed on his rights, in which case he would resort to “underground revolutionary tactics … with the armed resources at our disposal.”

It took less than a year for Miller and the White Patriot Party to violate the consent order. The SPLC obtained photographic evidence of active-duty Marines helping train his members. In a July 1986 trial, in which Dees acted as a special prosecutor to assist federal prosecutors, Miller was found guilty of criminal contempt. One witness testified he had procured weapons and explosives, including 13 armor-penetrating anti-tank rockets, from military personnel on behalf of Miller, after the settlement. He also said he received a duffel bag full of cash as payment to conduct training intended to help “create a paramilitary guerrilla unit for later use in establishing a White Southland.” Miller was sentenced to a year in prison, with six months of that term suspended. He was also ordered to disassociate himself from the White Patriot Party and avoid contact with white supremacists.

In October of that year, while out on bond awaiting an appeal of his conviction, Miller wrote to North Carolina’s governor, asking for an appointment to the Governor’s Task Force on Racial, Religious and Ethnic Violence and Intimidation. He said he would be willing to publicly discourage racial violence and act as a liaison to “the many White groups in North Carolina.”

But, in 1987, while still out on bond, Miller disappeared and went underground. He mailed a "Declaration of War" to supporters, exhorting “Aryan warriors of The Order” to kill “our enemies,” and established a point system for each kill. The targets were: “Niggers (1), White race traitors (10), Jews (10), Judges (50) Morris Seligman Dees (888).” He signed the statement “Glenn Miller, loyal member of ‘The Order.’”

The FBI caught up with Miller and four other Klansmen in Springfield, Mo., where he was tear-gassed out of a mobile home. Authorities found hand grenades, automatic weapons, thousands of rounds of ammunition, the explosive C-4, and $14,000 in cash. He and the others were indicted for conspiracy to acquire stolen military weapons, explosives and equipment, and for planning robberies and the assassination of Dees. Miller pleaded guilty to a weapons charge and to sending a threat through the mail. He served three years in federal prison, mostly in Otisville, N.Y. As part of his plea deal, he agreed to testify against 14 leading white supremacists in a sedition trial.

Miller has continued to produce racist commentary, both on his own website and on Vanguard News Network (VNN), where he operates under the user name “Rounder.”

Miller has dipped his toes into politics but found little support. He ran in the Democratic primary for North Carolina governor in 1984 and for the Republican nomination for a state senate seat in 1986. He failed in both attempts, finishing eighth out of 10 candidates in 1984 with less than 1% of the vote and last out of three in 1986 with 3%. In Missouri’s 7th congressional district, Miller received 23 votes in 2006 while running as an independent, putting him in last place again. In 2010, he ran for the U.S. Senate in Missouri as a write-in candidate from an unspecified party. He received seven votes out of nearly 2 million cast.

His 2010 radio campaign drew much attention for its blatantly racist and anti-Semitic content. The Missouri Broadcasters Association raised questions about his campaign, alleging that Miller was not a legitimate candidate and was instead using his status to secure air time for his beliefs. However, the FCC ruled in his favor, stating there was no legal recourse to hold him accountable.

Miller’s campaigns have included promises to “work … to expose the jewish domination of the US government, the mass media, the federal reserve bank, and the decadent American culture.” He has also called for incentive payments to white Americans to produce white children.

In 2002 after a stint as a trucker during which he penned his autobiography, A White Man Speaks Out, Miller relocated to Aurora, Mo., where he has since focused on distributing racist literature. His aim is to “unite, organize, educate, recruit” against the Jews until “death or victory.”

Since 2005, this ambition has been acted on by publishing the racist tabloid The Aryan Alternative, written by Alex Linder. For many, this has done little to remove the tag of “federal informant” and “white race traitor” from his name.

Miller has ties to Kevin W. Harpham, a neo-Nazi who was convicted of attempting to bomb a Martin Luther King Jr. Day parade in Spokane, Wash., in 2011. Although Harpham pleaded guilty, Miller was convinced that Harpham’s lawyers deceitfully convinced him that he would be found guilty regardless of his innocence. Throughout his trial proceedings, Miller was a regular pen pal with Harpham, who was sentenced to 32 years in prison.

SPLC has a particular axe to grind against him because his outfit threatened to assassinate their then leader over their involvement in legal proceedings against him as they point out.

These are overviews of events and murders from the groups he was a part of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensboro_Massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Berg

These are his radio ads from his write-in run in 2010. According to Wikipedia he only got seven votes.
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As I recall it these ads did get a fair bit of attention back in 2010 because of how batshit crazy they were.

Notice he plugs David Duke and VNN.

[tachosomoza]

This fascist fuck should have been in prison for life in the 1980s.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

This fascist fuck should have been in prison for life in the 1980s.

That might have been emotionally satisfying - although he would probably have it easy in prison - but ultimately it wouldn't solve anything. And calling on the bourgeois state to solve the problems of capitalism doesn't just not work, it leads to all sorts of side-effects - the Dies-era HUAC was formed, in part, to "fight" the Klan. The only thing that has been able to consistently drive back the Klan has been workers' mobilisation.

[Turinbaar]

an interview with the shooter (a former senate candidate) in 2010

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[AnaRchic]

Hypothetically speaking now, it would be nice to see such scumbags as this regularly shot. It would be nice to see fascists cower in fear about uttering a single world, constantly looking over their shoulders no matter where they go.

It would be great to see a few of them knocked off whenever they show their faces. Individual acts are not always wrong. Fascists like this need to be dealt with before more innocent people die.

This is all within the confines of hypothetical dream-land, of course.

[leftwinger2007]

He was also in the White Patriot Party.

[TheTrueAtheist]

holy crap thats messed up.