Teachers.

[M00nbeamz]

I've come across a question, which seems to have a sort of muddled answer.
Being a relatively new Socialist, I thought I might ask the people here for help answering, or to direct me to an answer already layed out.
My parents are both teachers. And while my mother has taken me out of public school, and decided to teach me herself. Thus removing her largely from the active field. My father continues to teach publicly for our primary income.
Now I am completely self confident in saying I did not grow up well off by any stretch. I've had leisure items, certainly. My parents were able to buy me nice things by spending carefully. And I accepted these things happily until such a time as I grew to understand what the implication and severity of taking their money for my own use was.
We were not a well off family, and certainly struggled to make out existence decent within this Capitalist society.

Which brings me to the question. What class does the teacher belong to?
I have little doubt in my mind that my upbringing regardless of the role my parents played in society was on the poor scale.
But where does the teacher technically fall within class lines? He does sell his labor, though non physical, to an employer. And he could not simply decide to "Teach on his own" and put his labor elsewhere.
On the same token though. The public school is owned by the bourgeoise state, I have no illusion to the contrary. So, where does the teacher fall in terms of class? Regardless of my own upbringing in harder circumstance.
All answers are appreciate :)

[Slavoj Zizek's Balls]

I've come across a question, which seems to have a sort of muddled answer.
Being a relatively new Socialist, I thought I might ask the people here for help answering, or to direct me to an answer already layed out.
My parents are both teachers. And while my mother has taken me out of public school, and decided to teach me herself. Thus removing her largely from the active field. My father continues to teach publicly for our primary income.
Now I am completely self confident in saying I did not grow up well off by any stretch. I've had leisure items, certainly. My parents were able to buy me nice things by spending carefully. And I accepted these things happily until such a time as I grew to understand what the implication and severity of taking their money for my own use was.
We were not a well off family, and certainly struggled to make out existence decent within this Capitalist society.

Which brings me to the question. What class does the teacher belong to?
I have little doubt in my mind that my upbringing regardless of the role my parents played in society was on the poor scale.
But where does the teacher technically fall within class lines? He does sell his labor, though non physical, to an employer. And he could not simply decide to "Teach on his own" and put his labor elsewhere.
On the same token though. The public school is owned by the bourgeoise state, I have no illusion to the contrary. So, where does the teacher fall in terms of class? Regardless of my own upbringing in harder circumstance.
All answers are appreciate :)

The important thing is that teachers have to work for a living. They are given a set salary on the payscale and cannot make a profit from their work. So I would say that teachers are proletarian. Intellectual labourers.

When you say public school, you definitely mean state school right? I know you allude to it being a state school later in the post but I just want to make sure. Public schools in the UK are privately owned ones for the higher echelons.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

We are workers. If we don't work, we don't eat.

Those who say we are somehow the intellectual police of the state logically end up with a world-view that pits them and their tiny, ideologically-pure against every person who doesn't match up to said purity in the world.

[ArisVelouxiotis]

Well since they are paid for their labour they belong to the working class.

[BIXX]

Teachers are proles. They have nothing to make money with other than their labour.

On the other hand, that doesn't mean all of them will have proletarian politics, and most teachers that I've had are explicitly anti-proletarian politics.

[Red Economist]

Teachers are wage workers and therefore proletarians. according to Marxist-Leninist terminology, they represent a special strata of the working class engaged in mental work known as the 'intelligentsia'.
if they decided to 'teach on their own' and sold their services through homeschooling, they might be considered 'Petit bourgeois' as they would be getting the entirety of the exchange value, including the surplus value or 'profit'.

[M00nbeamz]

I mean as in a public school in the United States. Owned by the ruling class in that the ruling class controls the government for it's end. Am I correct? I'm sorry for my small grasp here, i'm relatively new to leftist politics.

[tallguy]

Teachers are proles. They have nothing to make money with other than their labour.

On the other hand, that doesn't mean all of them will have proletarian politics, and most teachers that I've had are explicitly anti-proletarian politics.
I'm a teacher and I am definitely a working class proletarian.

[BIXX]

I'm a teacher and I am definitely a working class proletarian.


I fail to see how that contradicts hat I said. Or was it to add on?

[tallguy]

I fail to see how that contradicts hat I said. Or was it to add on?
it was to add on