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[ashtonh]

I am a young 13 year old marxist-trotskyist. I beleive a revolution must happen in a developed capitalist state before moving into socialism then spreading its power. Before the transition to true state-less communism socialism should be achieved by many. Socialst natoons must spread its power so that the transition will be smooth and so the proletariet will be free. Also a few role models of mine would have to be Che guevara, H.I.M. Haile Selassie I of ethiopia. Thank you guys and comment.:o

[Q]

Welcome :)

If you have political questions, you can ask them in the Learning forum. That's why it's there after all!

If you have questions about your account, don't hesitate to send me a PM or ask here.

Revolutionary crises have a tendency of going in continental or global waves. They come when they come. In the mean time, how do you think we should prepare as a class? And on a related note, are you in any of the Trotskyist groups?

[Marshal of the People]

Welcome comrade.

We leftists generally don't like monarchs or monarchies, what do you like about Haile Selassie I?

[ashtonh]

The only thing I personally likeabout him was the fact that he did fight to get back his nation. This is a goal everyone should strive for, fighting to take back what is ours. Sadly ethiopia is in just as bad of shape and his rule was necessary part of its developement.:laugh:

[ashtonh]

Also Q I personally am not a member of a trotskyist group for I am in southern mississippi. I might add even though my grandfather disagrees with communism, he does support some socialist ideals and practices. Sdly thoughhe still considers himself capitalist, albeit a social capitalist.

[Remus Bleys]

Hello. Since this is an introduction, and you are new, I'd like help clear a few things up - so this shouldn't come across as aggressive, but if it does, I'll promptly delete it.
To start off, Trotskyists don't call themselves marxist-trotskyists, but rather Trotskyists or Leninists or Marxists or even Bolshevik-Leninists.
An Emperor really shouldn't be a role model for you, because even though he defended against the Italian Invasion, he was still very involved in the runnings of a state of the class enemy and retained "feudalistic" rhetoric and was in power via the British state.
In addition, Che Guevara wasn't a trotskyist either - he was some stalinist (and a revisionist stalinist at that) who was a member of a bourgeois movement in Cuba. Even if you are the type of trotskyist who regards Cuba as a degenerated workers state, saying Guevara is your hero is like saying Stalin or Khruschev is.

[The Jay]

Hello. You might wish to change your username as having your actual name is not a good idea.

[ashtonh]

Not ,my actual name its name of my dog and my last i initial and I do understand that trotskyist dont call themselves that but I personally can not relate to leninism while I respect it I personally do not follow it. Good advice of the emperor part :laugh: only still look up to him is my yearor half a year as a dedicated rastafarian .;) kinda getting his love out of my system. One more part is that I am a pagan now.:glare:

[ashtonh]

Well thanks for the good advice guys lol maybe I need help shaking the deification of Haile Selassie when i was rasta.

[ashtonh]

Hello I would like to briefly introduce myself I am a Trotskyist and a pagan. This does not mean I am a theocrat. Religion and politics should be seperate. Anyway this post is to discuss a Trotskyist revolution (hopefully peaceful) in the U.S. . We are already a fully ( I believe so) capitalist state with a sufficient working class. We can rise up with the farms and the buildings to feed andsupport our nation. Next we would put those who were unemployed to a part time career. Slowly but surely easing them back into the work force. Once we were established college could be achieved by many allowing more specialist with important jobs. Soon following we would show the other nations how socialism is working for us. After all or most superpowers become socialist we can ease into class-less state-less communism withno hierarchy. Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

[The Jay]

Do you support a market in what you call Socialism?

[Sinister Intents]

Hi, welcome to revleft. Do you support socialism in one country? It kinda seems like you're suggesting socialism in one country

[ashtonh]

Personal recrrational market such as cars, video game systems, and things of the like. Not a large dog eat dog market of supplies, food, and things of that nature.:o

[Slavoj Zizek's Balls]

I do understand that trotskyist dont call themselves that but I personally can not relate to leninism while I respect it I personally do not follow it.

Trotskyism is derived from 'Leninism', or another way to look at it would be to say that Trotsky's ideology (and subsequent ideologies) is linked to Lenin's personal ideology. This in turn has links to Kautsky's ideology. All of these people did not have access to a fuller picture of Marx and Engels' writings, which resulted in a very mechanistic understanding of society and thus a number of unhelpful conceptions such as having stages between capitalism and communism, or the idea of taking state power with a vanguard or even propagating consciousness from the 'outside'. Lenin did eventually move away from Orthodox Marxism late in his life and began investigating Hegel more personally, leading to doubts over previous theoretical concepts and political practice.

What you might be able to trace through this is the absurdity of the labelling associated to these ideologies, all of them are attached to some person and fix on the suffix '-ism', thus ending up with most followers of these isms having some incapability of acknowledging or undertaking historical research from a critical perspective (of their borrowed ideology).

Additionally, you can find this emperor inspiring in terms of his personal ability to overturn opposition, but to make him a role model is very dangerous indeed. To make Che Guevara a role model is just as dangerous, if not foolish. Just because he's in the same 'camp' and an icon, doesn't mean he's worth emulating. Emulating someone else puts you into a subordinate position and lacks a certain personalisation.

[Fourth Internationalist]

"Trotskyist" :glare:

[ashtonh]

And no not socialism in 1 country. I just suggest starting in as many countries as possible but most likely starting in one country that is developed capitally then spreading it to neighbors and allies and other superpowers.

[ashtonh]

Im sorry is there an issue with trotskyist on here?:confused:

[PhoenixAsh]

Welcome,

Trotskyists usually go for internationalism and argue against revolution...in one country.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/trotskyism-study-guide-t178800/index.html?t=178800

[ashtonh]

I 100% want international socialism but it must be established in most likely one at first then i ternational

[Q]

Merged both of your threads.

[Brutus]

I 100% want international socialism but it must be established in most likely one at first then i ternational

Socialism by definition must be worldwide, as it is stateless. Since there is no state there are, as a result, no nations. And you're Trotskyist but not Leninist? Could you explain this?

[ashtonh]

I realize I was not very clear in my wording. International socialism is my inherent goal, but starting in one country then spreading around the globe is more likely. Then after majority or all of the nations became socialist we could implicate communism. This will only be possible after developing the working class into formidable foes ready to overthrow capitalist economy. Sincerely and emphatically Young Trotskyist:)

[ashtonh]

I believe truly unlike lenin that russia was not capable of a socialist government at the time. Also stateless is end goal to me, but if possible it would be great to happen immediately.

[Q]

I believe truly unlike lenin that russia was not capable of a socialist government at the time.
Lenin actually didn't see that happening either. You might find this article helpful (http://www.cpgb.org.uk/home/weekly-worker/785/the-four-wagers-of-lenin-in-1917).

[ashtonh]

Wow that was informative. Never heard about the four wagers. I read many times that the difference between trotsky and lenin was that lenin felt socialism would come immediately.:o