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Knowledge 6 6 6
27th January 2004, 19:18
Ok, now I've said alot of good and bad about Guevara so let me sum up what I think of him.

Che was a great man in terms of standing up for Cuba (I would say his native country, but he was born in Argentina), and practically everywhere who were dominated by American impirealism. I'm totally for that, in the sense that I'm totally against anyone trying to colonialise the world. America's doing that today with Iraq and Afghanistan and its really disgusting...

Guevara was a rebel yes, however committed murder as well. He murdered a lot of people during his lifetime, now of course this can be justified and viewed in many different ways. He did it because he needed to prove his point, and sometimes the only form of doing so is by execution. Is it right? Well...you have to look at the circumstances around it, and what state of mind he was in as well. I dont know about you, but if I saw my own people being killed by impirealists...I wouldn't be exactly 'passive'...

Guevara moreso was an intellect. Just read his speeches that he had written to various different organisations, most notably the UN in 1964. His letters to Castro as well exemlpify his knowledge. He knew not only what was going on in Latin America, but worldwide. Constantly, he would talk about what America is doing in Africa, etc. Che knew the international spectrum very well, and his book, 'Guerilla Warfare' continues the notion of his intelligence.

Overall, he was a great man, committed in my opinion, error in terms of killing people to prove a point. I'm not saying every revolutionary should be passive and non-violent, what I am saying is that violence displays weakness, and that is probably Che's downfall. Like I said, being passive when your own ppl are being beaten to a bloody pulp isnt exactly the first thing on anyone's agenda, however, what would have elevated che to an even higher status of rebellion would be his tolerance to injustice. He didn't tolerate injustice well as was shown through the killings...

I've always stated to follow any one person blindly is slavery, which was coined by a man I look up to, in Bhagat Singh of India. He was muchlike Che, a rebellious violent man who would use force to prove a point. I look up to Che as well, but one cannot ignore the bad that he did.

I honestly believe if you dont pay attention to the bad about a person, it will only bias your viewpoint of them. You need to know the good and the bad. In the history forum, I even demonstrated evil that Gandhi did, because everyone seemed to rever him as an 'all-good' person. Even Gandhi wasn't all good...

If you dont understand the bad a person does, you'll never understand the good, because your view will always be biased. To those that keep trying to justify Che's killings, what if he had killed a loved one of yours? Put all political views aside, would you still think of him so highly? I don't think (for the most part) you would...

Don't be biased. period.

ComradeRobertRiley
27th January 2004, 19:22
I agree with Che to kill people, it is needed.

RebeldePorLaPAZ
27th January 2004, 20:14
Very well said, I feel just about the same way.


--Paz

toastedmonkey
27th January 2004, 20:14
i suppose you could use the phrase, "you have to expierience the lows, to appreciate the highs"

Le Libérer
27th January 2004, 20:39
Also Che over saw all the executions of his revolution. But he also made every man in his army execute the enemy as well.

I once saw a quote that stated, " A true revolutionary must not only be willing to die for his cause, but be willing to kill as well." Its a necessary evil.

Knowledge 6 6 6
27th January 2004, 20:51
that's a good quote...I'm sure Che didnt really want the murder to be too rampant, but at the same time, necessary for the revolution...

mia wallace
27th January 2004, 20:54
i agree with knowledge.
i really like che and i really respect him but i don't agree with all the killing he's done. i don't like violence, i know that u can't or u shouldn't avoid it sometimes, but i'm generally against it. this doesn't mean i'll like che less, i simply don't agree with all he's done. in the end; everyone makes mistakes.

Ortega
27th January 2004, 23:00
Che undoubtedly killed some people, but as has been stated many times already, you have to accept both the highs and the lows. To say that Che was perfect is ridiculous, and obviously untrue. He was only a mortal, and was certainly not perfect. He may be a hero to many of us, including me without a doubt, but I am completely aware of the less heroic things he did.

nezvanova
28th January 2004, 02:39
Well put. I'm fairly sure the vast majourity of us here (at least I hope) were already aware of many of the things you stated. But I always looked at Che as a warrior. Killing is what he did. You don't comdemn a wolf for killing a deer. It's just what it does. I (this is just my opinion...) wouldn't call Che a murderer; from what I understand, the people he killed knew what they were getting into. For example, the trials that were conducted were done so in a manner that tried to be as fair as possible (for example, anyone who was somehow hurt or torutured by any of Batista's followers, or had a family member that was tortured or killed, was not allowed to be a juror at these trials). anyway, good for you kid! i'm really glad to see you did your homework, and made a decision based on facts. it's good to see. :D

amarulj4714
28th January 2004, 03:25
I think...the enviornment was not very ripe for revolution. In Soviet Russia (topic posts YOU!), it was hardbut nonetheless easy to start the revolution and concentrate on politics, running the country, etc. I mean...he had to start a revolution, where there was none. But from what we have heard, he didn't do unneccessary killing. He was a general, it is what his army had to do.

Knowledge 6 6 6
28th January 2004, 18:17
thanks for the comments nezvanova...

Unbias is key. :). (Is 'unbias' a word?! lol)

peace
Knowledge

bubbrubb
28th January 2004, 20:34
I believe che's ideals were good and his intentions but i don't agree with the amoutn of executions and the reasons for why some of the people who were executed were executed. Overall i agree with most of the ways he went about his"duties" but some things i disagree with.