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ola.
4th April 2014, 15:57
(CNN) -- Stephen Colbert plays a dangerous game.

He walks a tightrope every night, and it's amazing that he doesn't fall on a regular basis. He tells jokes about race, gender, class and people love him or hate him. Does everyone get a joke? No. But of course he does say, in persona, amazingly offensive things sometimes.

Last week things went south, and Twitter exploded in calls to #CancelColbert.

The offense? A 140-character long foot-in-the-mouth that came from the Twitter feed @ColbertReport. The tweet was a joke that played off of a show segment that mocked an attempt by the owner of the Washington Redskins to make peace with the Native American community without having to change the team's name.

"I'm willing to show the #Asian community I care by introducing the Ching-Chong Ding-Dong Foundation for Sensitivity to Orientals or Whatever."

Race, meet satire. But it didn't work.

The controversial tweet, it turns out, was not written by Colbert himself, or from anyone on his show. But it was a Comedy Central account that presumably had license from the show's producers to publicize and magnify Colbert's voice.

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But instead of repudiating the tweet, Colbert on Monday night made further jokes about how the incident almost silenced "my message of core conservative principles mixed with youth-friendly product placement."

Following the lead of Asian-American activist Suey Park, some have been demanding that "The Colbert Report" be canceled. These words perpetuate hateful stereotypes and bring up a history of very public repression and personal shame. To use them now is to call forth that history. And in calling it forth, these words create more racism.

Defenders say he's a "satirist" in the best Swiftian mold. He has a license to say such things, for he speaks in the name of truth and justice. They're saying that the tweet wasn't from him (even though they were his words). And they're saying that these words were perhaps taken out of context.

Colbert's responses on Monday night were uninspiring. The whole show was devoted to it, but it was the cold opening that people will remember: Colbert imagined a dystopian post-Report world. Think hell ... er Manhattan ... freezing over, before prominent Chinese-American actor B.D. Wong saves the day by explaining to him that it's all been a bad dream! This is still "The Colbert Report." #CancelColbert has failed.

I wasn't disappointed because I think the show should be canceled. It shouldn't. But I was hoping for something more sincere, perhaps even an apology or a sit-down with Ms. Park to let her issues be aired. (On the show, he made no mention of whether he tried to invite her to appear). Instead, he invited Twitter co-founder Biz Stone for a mock apology to Colbert himself, and -- offering a tepid "I never want this to happen again"-- shut down the Twitter account, @colbertreport.

Many of Colbert's defenders have been asking why Park and her followers should get to decide what Colbert can and cannot say? Who cares what they think?

Colbert should care what they think. Park and her followers represent a point of view that Colbert takes himself to be speaking for, liberals, racial minorities, the underprivileged. As a privileged white male, Colbert (just like the character he plays) gets his license to use what would otherwise be outrageous language because of his associations to those communities themselves.

Colbert, his defenders will say, is a liberal with a history of fighting for the underprivileged. True. But white satirization of racial politics is conditioned on the blessing of the underprivileged themselves. This is why Colbert, in persona, sometimes cites the existence of a "black friend" and why Jon Stewart regularly discusses issues of race with his "Senior Black Correspondent." They know that it is precisely the underprivileged themselves that get to determine what should be done with the words that have been used to repress and embarrass them. Colbert, out of persona, should know that.

Without an apology, what we have here is a case of a white liberal comedian trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's saying: "I have license to say hateful things because everyone knows I don't mean them or because I have an Asian friend." But the way he should show he doesn't mean them is by being sensitive to how his saying them affects others.

If Park and the broader community are offended, he can't hide behind his liberalism. Liberalism is a license that comes with responsibilities that Colbert ought to abide by.

"The Colbert Report" was never in any danger of being canceled over this. But whether or not he ever recognizes it, Colbert owes Park, as well as the broader Asian community, an apology. At the very least he should consider dropping the Ching-Chong Ding-Dong character.

The majority of comments on articles on this topic are literally things like: "OMG HOW CAN COLBERT EVEN BE A RACIST THATS IMPOSSIBLE HES A COMEDIAN UR JUST OVERSENSITIVE/OBSESSED WITH RACE!!!"

Alexios
4th April 2014, 16:02
this happened like two weeks ago

ola.
4th April 2014, 16:11
The article is recent though and I've been seeing a bunch of other articles on this topic too so I thought I'd get some thoughts on it.

EDIT: Ahh I just found the other thread already discussing the topic, my bad guys.

Bostana
4th April 2014, 17:05
He didn't tweet this though, someone else who works for the show did.He actually has no control over that twitter account. And he did this to mock the Washington Redskins Original american foundation (http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Redskins-Launch-Washington-Redskins-Original-Americans-Foundation/2e9b6c12-f93e-4da3-8c27-e246c2c83b43) As it contains a racist slur in the foundation and colbert was poking fun and being ironic about it

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
4th April 2014, 17:13
He didn't tweet this though, someone else who works for the show did. And he did this to mock the Washington Redskins Original american foundation (http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Redskins-Launch-Washington-Redskins-Original-Americans-Foundation/2e9b6c12-f93e-4da3-8c27-e246c2c83b43) As it contains a racist slur in the foundation and colbert was poking fun and being ironic about it

two things:

1) He "poked fun at it" by using racial slurs, as in racism towards Asian peoples, doing it "ironically" doesn't remove the content.

2) Honestly at this point there really is no reason to nit pick on the details of this gaff, it'd be much more productive to use this event to put this in the broader context of settler colonialism and anti-Asian prejudice, it's moments like these that demand revolutionary theory, not liberal identity politics.

Sinister Cultural Marxist
4th April 2014, 18:40
This is a ridiculous news story driven by a weak news cycle and the fact that twitter creates social events devoid of content. Yes Stephen Colbert's character is racist to Asians and the whole joke is that he tries to show his sensitivity to Asians but while using racist terminology. The gap of ignorance between how Stephen Colbert's racist character sees Asians and the actual reality Asian Americans live and their actual beliefs is the whole punchline (like his offer to buy 3,000 of those "triangle hats" because he never sees Asians wearing them any more - the obvious punchline is that Asian Americans don't fit the orientalist stereotype but that doesn't stop Colbert from holding it.)


He didn't tweet this though, someone else who works for the show did.He actually has no control over that twitter account. And he did this to mock the Washington Redskins Original american foundation (http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Redskins-Launch-Washington-Redskins-Original-Americans-Foundation/2e9b6c12-f93e-4da3-8c27-e246c2c83b43) As it contains a racist slur in the foundation and colbert was poking fun and being ironic about it

It wasn't even the twitter of his show it was the one run by his network in his name. Something tells me Colbert was furious when he saw that Tweet and he was sympathetic with those who found it offensive in his Monday show, although he did not back away from the bit on his show itself.


two things:

1) He "poked fun at it" by using racial slurs, as in racism towards Asian peoples, doing it "ironically" doesn't remove the content.

How are you going to have white racist characters on television without white actors or comedians "saying racist things" in character? We couldn't have any artistic portrayals of Bull Connor as a villain because we would need a white guy to drop the N word. Satire is a useful tool to expose racism as much as any creative medium, and that might entail white people acting like racists.

I find much more problematic all the assholes on the internet who go on to "whitesplain" to Asian Americans why they are "too sensitive" and so on, or who try to attack Asians who found it offensive.



2) Honestly at this point there really is no reason to nit pick on the details of this gaff, it'd be much more productive to use this event to put this in the broader context of settler colonialism and anti-Asian prejudice, it's moments like these that demand revolutionary theory, not liberal identity politics.I don't think Bostana is doing liberal identity politics (perhaps that's not what you meant but he seemed to be the implicit target). Anyway, the real revolutionary theoretical question is "why did Stephen Colbert get so much more attention for a FAKE foundation than the real Redskins got for their real foundation?"


Also there's already a thread about this in the discrimination section and the unanimous view seems to be ... "meh (http://www.revleft.com/vb/stephen-colbert-accused-t187768/index.html)" ... I think there are more important anti-discrimination fights to wage, including against orientalist depictions of Asians, than one 5 minute skit on a satirist's night show that was making fun of everyday white racism anyways. There are even MUCH better things to criticize Colbert for anyways, including in the discrimination department regarding his humor.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
4th April 2014, 18:50
I think there are two things that are very, ah, interesting about this article. First, the overestimation of Twitter and similar social media. "Twitter exploded in calls to #CancelColbert", the article claims, with all the gravitas one would normally reserve for a horrible natural disaster or a catastrophic military defeat. I hate to be the old curmudgeon, but social change doesn't happen on Twitter, and OWS and similar attempts have demonstrated it doesn't happen because of Twitter either. Park herself is, as far as I can tell, not some sort of "community leader" (by the way, that term is problematic in itself), but a hashtag activist, and one whose actual politics appear to be horribly confused.

Second, no, liberals don't "fight for the underprivileged", and the notion that they do, or that they do so based on some mandate given to them by minorities, is nothing short of absurd.

Brotto Rühle
4th April 2014, 19:11
two things:

1) He "poked fun at it" by using racial slurs, as in racism towards Asian peoples, doing it "ironically" doesn't remove the content. You feel the same about Carlin's "nigger" joke?

Sasha
4th April 2014, 19:39
i think watching colberts reply is pretty damn clear, you might not think it was funny but the whole shitstorm was bullshit; http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/full-episodes/u4jfik/march-31--2014---biz-stone

The Intransigent Faction
4th April 2014, 19:59
He's said sooo many things ironically that could be construed as "racist" if you take him literally, though...I'm sure there's a whole list of them somewhere. They must never have watched the show.

Bostana
4th April 2014, 21:59
1) He "poked fun at it" by using racial slurs, as in racism towards Asian peoples, doing it "ironically" doesn't remove the content
He used a stereo-typical ironic asian name and created a charity to show the contradicting nature of the charity the Washington redskins created

Ocean Seal
4th April 2014, 23:40
He didn't do it ironically, he did it to prove a point. That the Redskins organization is racist, and that their charity serves to shroud its racism.

Bostana
4th April 2014, 23:45
He didn't do it ironically, he did it to prove a point. That the Redskins organization is racist, and that their charity serves to shroud its racism.

He created the fake charity ironically

The Intransigent Faction
5th April 2014, 07:11
He didn't do it ironically, he did it to prove a point. That the Redskins organization is racist, and that their charity serves to shroud its racism.

To prove a point through use of irony, yeah. You know, comedy.

Ocean Seal
5th April 2014, 16:53
To prove a point through use of irony, yeah. You know, comedy.
Yes, my bad. I should have said that his end goal was not irony.

Hermes
5th April 2014, 17:02
To prove a point through use of irony, yeah. You know, comedy.

didn't he do so by making asian-americans the brunt of yet another racist joke, though?

I don't really think comedy automatically gets a free pass from any kind of criticism... solely because it's comedy, I guess.

Sinister Cultural Marxist
5th April 2014, 18:59
didn't he do so by making asian-americans the brunt of yet another racist joke, though?

I don't really think comedy automatically gets a free pass from any kind of criticism... solely because it's comedy, I guess.

Except Asian Americans weren't the brunt of the joke - rich white racists who lack self awareness were. You just had to see the irony of Colbert's words to get that.

consuming negativity
5th April 2014, 19:43
http://www.salon.com/2014/04/03/cancelcolbert_activist_suey_park_this_is_not_refor m_this_is_revolution/

Interesting interview with the woman who created the #hashtag.



So what do you want from this conversation?

I wanted to hit the irony and inability of the left to deal with their own racism. I think as a result of the white ally industrial complex, for too long people of color have been asked to censor whiteness, they have been asked to educate their oppressor, they have been asked to use the right tone, and appease their politics in order to be heard. And in an effort to just contribute to the self-improvement of white allies that are often times just racist. So I think it’s kind of like pulling a blanket off the façade of progressivism. It forces people to deal with those conversations about race that go beyond micro-aggression and that go beyond being politically correct, to what it means to uproot racism in its entirety.


In that case, do you think that “The Colbert Report” itself is oppressive or just that specific joke or comment was oppressive?

Neither.


That's where it starts getting good...

Hermes
5th April 2014, 23:35
Except Asian Americans weren't the brunt of the joke - rich white racists who lack self awareness were. You just had to see the irony of Colbert's words to get that.

...they were, though. they were used so that the person who wrote the comment could target the 'rich white racists who lack self awareness'. again, I don't think irony necessarily excuses everything, simply because it's a form of comedy. I understand what irony is. I understand how irony can be immensely useful in a variety of different contexts.

I'm not arguing whether or not the person who wrote the comment's intent was to target asian americans, as it clearly wasn't.

Invader Zim
6th April 2014, 11:31
two things:

1) He "poked fun at it" by using racial slurs, as in racism towards Asian peoples, doing it "ironically" doesn't remove the content.

2) Honestly at this point there really is no reason to nit pick on the details of this gaff, it'd be much more productive to use this event to put this in the broader context of settler colonialism and anti-Asian prejudice, it's moments like these that demand revolutionary theory, not liberal identity politics.

Jesus. You should be actively banned from watching, listening, reading, or even reading about comedy. Clearly, you don't get it.

Allow Steve Hughes to explain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs#t=203

tachosomoza
14th April 2014, 02:50
People who complain about this parody of racist white team owners should try out comedy as a parody of a liberal.