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Sinister Intents
3rd April 2014, 22:02
I've been wondering how game shows would work under communism for television, radio, et cetera. Would people still win prizes when competing?
How would they be organized?
What show types would stay and what would go?
How would they be run?
How would television work in general under communism? Though I already answered this one myself so nvm on this one.
Halert
3rd April 2014, 22:05
I don't see why game shows would be run any differently from how they are run now. Instead of money you could give a trophy as a price.
Sinister Intents
3rd April 2014, 22:06
I don't see why game shows would be run any differently from how they are run now. Instead of money you could give a trophy as a price.
Indeed, I'd hope prizes could be whichever you pick, I'd wanna win like five lids of weed :wub:
G4b3n
3rd April 2014, 22:08
Why would I want to compete with someone over some petty glorified objects (such as trophies), which would just be socially backwards in a communist society, when I have access to the means to sustain life and my community has the resources needed to allocate my labor as I please?
Sinister Intents
3rd April 2014, 22:10
Why would I want to compete with someone over some petty glorified objects, which would just be socially backwards in a communist society, when I have access to the means to sustain life and my community has the resources needed to allocate my labor as I please?
Games are fun comrade :) Also game shows tend to be fun and I would assume they'd still exist for people to be entertained sans commercials, propaganda, and bullshit. Just fun shit like the show 'wipe out' I think it's called that... You probably wouldn't win stuff for certain games, and it'd just be satisfying to play it
RA89
3rd April 2014, 22:10
What about movies/sports?
Would these "celebrities" and elite level athletes do regular work which contributes to the community alongside their acting/sports or would acting/sports be considered legit occupations by themselves which contribute to society?
Halert
3rd April 2014, 22:11
You compete for the sake of competition, it is fun to play games and compete with others. The price is just extra but not the goal.
IWantToLearn
3rd April 2014, 22:13
Probably trying to make participation more appealing than the prize, like a way to demonstrate a skill or giving the participant a chance to do something funny or something that they would normally not be able to do.
RA89
3rd April 2014, 22:13
You compete for the sake of competition, it is fun to play games and compete with others. The price is just extra but not the goal.
Wouldn't the game show lose a lot of excitement with no real prize?
Most game shows I see focus a lot on the contestant going mad with happiness when they win something extraordinary. No real prize would make it kind of "meh" tbh.
Not that I like/watch game shows, but many do.
G4b3n
3rd April 2014, 22:15
Indeed, I'd hope prizes could be whichever you pick, I'd wanna win like five lids of weed :wub:
Why go on a Game show for this? You ought to purpose to the people in your community that you believe a certain amount of land should be allocated for Marijuana cultivation, a worker's council could vote on this, and then there you have it, weed for the entire community. That is if your fellow workers believe the idea to be worthy of taking up, and if not you simply cultivate your own plot of land for personal consumption. Isn't communism great?
Note that I am assuming a decentralized form of organization.
Psycho P and the Freight Train
3rd April 2014, 22:20
A game show where weed is the prize? Sounds good to me :grin:
Creative Destruction
3rd April 2014, 22:26
Wouldn't the game show lose a lot of excitement with no real prize?
Maybe the game shows that are centered on that kind of thing, like the Price is Right or something, but I wouldn't lose any enjoyment in watching Jeopardy or even a modified version of Wheel of Fortune if they nixed cash prizes.
G4b3n
3rd April 2014, 22:28
A game show where weed is the prize? Sounds good to me :grin:
Yes, I would be down right now for sure, it is pretty expensive for working people to buy.
However, If this were a communist society, I might just venture over to the syndicate or council in charge of marijuana cultivation, ask them how things are going and what not, pick up a few grams of bud and be on my way.
Futility Personified
3rd April 2014, 22:29
The countdown teapot is a sacred artifact. The honour of owning such a thing is a distinction that all should be proud of.
Taters
3rd April 2014, 22:52
Well there'd be shows a lot like American Idol or X Factor, but instead of singing you babble about Correct Thought and praising the Dear Leader. Insufficient praise of the Leader results in the People's Democracy proclaiming you a revisionist and a capitalist wrecker and having you executed on live television. The winner is named this year's Hero of the People and is awarded two months' extra rations.
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Mirrorsonic
3rd April 2014, 22:55
There would not be that kind of need I assume.If you have a careful look on how life was in socialist states like in the USSR in general the need to entertainment was based on things like cinema, theater arts, sports, cultural clubs, vacations all of which were free and with high standards. Games shows today are closely related to the advertisement of products to infuse consuming goods, that the working class has original has made. Game shows just make the people an uncritical mass.Also back in the socialist states of Easter Europe TV had an educational role. 'Fun' can be enjoyed by being into social activities with others in equal relationship where you can advance your self-being in all levels, while contributing in the community and in general to the socialist effort towards communism.
synthesis
3rd April 2014, 22:57
I mean, look at all the people who compete to get High Scores on video games right now, with no discernible prize. Same with the Olympics. Remember that guy who won on Jeopardy like forty times in a row? After awhile I don't think it's really about the prize any more.
Which would you rather have: $2,000, or a permanent (unbeatable) entry in the Guinness Book of World Records?
RA89
3rd April 2014, 22:59
I mean, look at all the people who compete to get High Scores on video games right now, with no discernible prize. Same with the Olympics. Remember that guy who won on Jeopardy like forty times in a row? After awhile I don't think it's really about the prize any more.
Which would you rather have: $2,000, or a permanent (unbeatable) entry in the Guinness Book of World Records?
That's a good point, could see the result being better game shows as they reward tangible talent over guessing etc.
Sperm-Doll Setsuna
3rd April 2014, 23:01
entry in the Guinness Book of World Records?
I for one wouldn't desire to appear in that glossy, worthless celebrity-gossip record collection. It long ago departed serious territory and became revolting profanity (anything after 1997 edition is shit).
Taters
3rd April 2014, 23:02
@OP: In all seriousness, the highest prize available under communism: being part of the nomenklatura.
Sinister Intents
3rd April 2014, 23:17
@OP: In all seriousness, the highest prize available under communism: being part of the nomenklatura.
Indeed! If I wasn't at school I'd participate better in the thread I created :(
Per Levy
3rd April 2014, 23:32
Which would you rather have: $2,000, or a permanent (unbeatable) entry in the Guinness Book of World Records?
the 2000$ of course those have actually some kind of worth and i'll need them badly.
@op: nobody knows once communism is there things will be a lot different and with that tv(if that even exist then) and game shows(if those still exist then).
synthesis
3rd April 2014, 23:40
the 2000$ of course those have actually some kind of worth and i'll need them badly.
Yeah, I mean, I think most people would choose the money. But I think there's also sort of a basic human need to leave one's mark on the world; for most people it's secondary to survival, security and social contact, but for some people it's their primary motivation to keep living. (That's where I think Maslow's hierarchy goes wrong, at least as a universal rule, in that it doesn't account for individual variations on the structure.)
If everyone was living in the human equivalent of Rat Park conditions, and all three of the above criteria were met, I think this need would be what would get people up in the morning, and almost certainly be the primary incentive when it comes to outlets for human competitiveness.
Lenina Rosenweg
3rd April 2014, 23:53
Maybe its just me, but it seems that the purpose of most game shows is to reinforce the ethos of capitalist competition."The Price Is Right" and similar shows consist of people yelling and screaming about who will win the Lexus, or whatever prize they are offering.I'm probably coming off as a culture snob but to me most game shows are so moronic that its difficult to watch.
It may be that I'm not super familar with the genre. I have family members who love Jeopardy and Price is Right.
Jeopardy is a a little better, at least its based on something a bit more intelligent, but still it makes knowledge into a commodity and its based on people competing against each other for money.
Hollywood Squares was kinda funny, I've heard that the contestants were usually very drunk during the show.
Chuck Baris' shows were funny.Possibly game shows in a socialist society would be something like that-smart ass humor, there could be competition and rivalries but it wouldn't be commodity oriented.
Art Vandelay
4th April 2014, 05:19
Communism is a post scarcity society of free producers.....why would I go on some game show to win a prize...when I could just get whatever I wanted anyway?
Red Economist
9th April 2014, 12:36
How would television work in general under communism? Though I already answered this one myself so nvm on this one.
Take the Televisions outside and destroy them. It's our century's equivalent of burning down the Churches. You'll have a free society within 5 to 10 years as people start to think for themselves. If people want to get information, let them use the internet or newspapers.
The Jay
9th April 2014, 14:11
Take the Televisions outside and destroy them. It's our century's equivalent of burning down the Churches. You'll have a free society within 5 to 10 years as people start to think for themselves. If people want to get information, let them use the internet or newspapers.
I agree. I hope that television dies an horrible death.
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