Communist Party of Ecuador-Red Sun (Puka Inti)?

[Bala Perdida]

What is the general thought about a group like this? Maoist insurgencies like this get a bad reputation, and some of that is deserved, but they seem to be very sympathetic towards the indigenous population. The Red Sun (Sol Rojo) are ideologically similar to the Shinning Path, and support many Maoist groups around the world. They seem to be a terrorist organization, but I can't find any record of their attacks. They also seem to call any politicians they don't like fascists, including Correa and the late Chavez.
The groups they endorse, and the name calling already give them a bad look. Is there anything else that gives them a bad look? Could they be, or are they, an effective proletarian revolutionary organization? Do you support or condemn them from what you hear?

http://pukainti.blogspot.com/

Personally, I dislike all political parties and militant organizations because they seem to feel obligated to either endorse "socialist" regimes or anybody against the U.S. I guess they're trying to stress they're ant-americanism, but I guess that's why I'm not a ML, they seem to think you're either with them or against them.

[La Guaneña]

Some people here in Brasil call this special stripe of Maoists (the Gonzalo thought) existent in Latin America "Maorenistas". It is a junction of Maoist with Morenist, the trot flavour made famous by the PSTU for being so ultraleft that they are right wing in some occasions.

This happens due mainly to dumb things like the Chavez and Correa thing you talked about. Like, only them and the right wing hates Chavez that much.

[Prometeo liberado]

They seem to be a terrorist organization
Please define this sooo played out word. Is not the homeless situation here in the U.S. or the unending wars also terrorism? Body counts could attest.


Personally, I dislike all political parties and militant organizations because they seem to feel obligated to either endorse "socialist" regimes or anybody against the U.S. I guess they're trying to stress they're ant-americanism, but I guess that's why I'm not a ML, they seem to think you're either with them or against them.
You dislike all political parties because they are anti-American right? By this you have let these political parties make your decision not to adhere to ML? Way to analyze and think for yourself.

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

The Communist Party of Eduador is a lot of MLM formations in the Andes that sprung up from the Peruvian people's war. Gonzalo's main aim was to use Peru as a spring board for a "global peoples war" which would encompass the Andes, Latin America and eventually bring forth global revolution.

Generally these gonzaloid formations refer to Venezuela and other progressive bourgeois regimes as "fascist" from their understanding of state capitalist theory or in this case "bureaucrat-capitalism". According to them the various social formations of the world which consist of numerous modes of production expressed in a single "capitalist" totality (see Samir Amin). Unlike most Maoists who recognize the progressive nature of anti-imperialist regimes they see the various nationalizations such as those taking place in Venezuela and other areas of the world as merely another aspect of the social formation and instead of being progressive they see this as a reactionary phenomena which holds back the working class in favor of keeping the backward bourgeois and semi-feudal elements in power. The precedent for this being in Mao's remarks of chiang kai shek being a state capitalist regime which held together the semi-feudal system instead of abolishing it and when Gonzalo opposed the soviet puppet dictator in Peru who carried out large scale land nationalizations as implementing a system of "state feudalism".

Now a days they tend to wallow in their own sectarianism. The Communist Party of Ecuador having the distinction of being one of the earliest MLM forces to reject the recent left split from the UCPN-M and the attempts to resurrect the RIM. Bunch of silly fellows really

[Bala Perdida]

Please define this sooo played out word. Is not the homeless situation here in the U.S. or the unending wars also terrorism? Body counts could attest. Different sources online call them a terrorist group. This means they could use terrorist tactics, like bombing a building, to elicit terror and do damage to the economy of the state they are at war with. Terrorist tactics are quite interesting, but should not be resorted to since they loose popular support.
As for the second part, I'm not sure about the homeless problem but it's quite possible police brutality against the homeless could be a terrorist tactic to discourage their presence in an area. The unending wars are indeed terrorism, the U.S. is basically telling the country or region that "this will happen if you defy our interests" which is basically the objective of terrorism.

You dislike all political parties because they are anti-American right? By this you have let these political parties make your decision not to adhere to ML? Way to analyze and think for yourself. I do sympathize with some political parties, but the black and white anti-americanism is what I don't like about them. For example,"The FSA is backed by the U.S. so we support Assad." I don't see any reason to support a genocidal regime, just because they are against a bigger genocidal regime. A more recent example would be supporting Russian imperialism, against U.S. imperialism.
As for Marxist-Leninism, it is a complex ideology and has several opposing factions within it. I generally disagree with the whole vanguard idea and several other things, but the stances ML political parties take only drive me away from ML groups. There are some good ideas advocated by Lenin, but I wouldn't call myself a Leninist. I wouldn't even call myself a Marxist, although he is a big influence on my views.

[DDR]

Some people here in Brasil call this special stripe of Maoists (the Gonzalo thought) existent in Latin America "Maorenistas". It is a junction of Maoist with Morenist, the trot flavour made famous by the PSTU for being so ultraleft that they are right wing in some occasions.

This happens due mainly to dumb things like the Chavez and Correa thing you talked about. Like, only them and the right wing hates Chavez that much.

Didn't Nahuel Moreno wrote a book about how counterrevolutionary and pettit burgeoise are guerrillas or something like that?

[Criminalize Heterosexuality]

Didn't Nahuel Moreno wrote a book about how counterrevolutionary and pettit burgeoise are guerrillas or something like that?

Not as far as I know - although he did mention the petit-bourgeois nature of guerrilla movements such as the FNSL in a factional dispute with the United Secretariat chief Mandel, which resulted in Moreno being thrown out of the USEC and shacking up with the French "orthodox Trotskyist" Lambert for a while. But he didn't call them counterrevolutionary - he simply repeated something that used to be accepted as a truism in the Trotskyist milieu, that only the proletariat could lead the revolution, that the "guerrilla road" lead to nowhere.

Of course Moreno was almost in love with figures such as Peron, so his "orthodox" credentials are suspect at best.

Anyway, far be it from me to defend the Red Sun, and I do think their appraisal of Chavez etc. as fascists is impressionistic at best, but the opposite route, praising Chavez and other bourgeois-populist leaders as socialist, is almost as bad, and it is far, far more common.

[La Guaneña]

Didn't Nahuel Moreno wrote a book about how counterrevolutionary and pettit burgeoise are guerrillas or something like that?

I don't know, I just mentioned the morenists to compare their ultraleftist position in relation to chavez and friends to this specific stripe of maoists.