Kiev snipers hired by Maidan leaders

[adipocere]

Well obviously. But what good timing to release this when all the western media is printing the same photos of John Kerry lighting candles for dead protesters and shit in Ukraine.
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Kiev snipers hired by Maidan leaders - leaked EU's Ashton phone tape (http://rt.com/news/ashton-maidan-snipers-estonia-946/)

Published time: March 05, 2014 12:41
Edited time: March 05, 2014 14:19 Get short URL (http://rt.com/news/ashton-maidan-snipers-estonia-946/)

http://img.rt.com/files/news/23/24/a0/00/42.si.jpg An anti-government protester sit near the bodies of two demonstrators killed by a sniper during clashes with the police in the center of Kiev on February 20, 2014.(AFP Photo / Sergei Supinsky)









The snipers who shot at protesters and police in Kiev were allegedly hired by Maidan leaders, according to a leaked phone conversation between the EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign affairs minister, which has emerged online.

“There is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovich, but it was somebody from the new coalition,” Paet said during the conversation.
“I think we do want to investigate. I mean, I didn’t pick that up, that’s interesting. Gosh,” Ashton answered.
The call took place after Estonia’s Foreign Minister Urmas Paet visited Kiev on February 25 at the peak of clashes between the pro-EU protesters and security forces in the Ukrainian capital.

Met in Kiev with deputy speaker of Rada and head of Regions Party fraction. It is important to form quickly new government.
— Urmas Paet (@Urmaspaet) February 25, 2014 (https://twitter.com/Urmaspaet/statuses/438293530357010432)
Paet also recalled his conversation with a doctor who treated those shot by snipers in Kiev. She said that both protesters and police were shot at by the same people.
“And second, what was quite disturbing, this same Olga [Bogomolets] told as well that all the evidence shows that the people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among policemen and then people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides,” the Estonian FM stressed.
Ashton reacted to the information by saying: “Well, yeah…that’s, that’s terrible.”
“So that she then also showed me some photos she said that as a medical doctor she can say that it is the same handwriting, the same type of bullets, and it’s really disturbing that now the new coalition, that they don’t want to investigate what exactly happened,” Paet said.
The Estonian FM has described the whole sniper issue as “disturbing” and added, “it already discredits from the very beginning” the new Ukrainian power.

His overall impressions of what he saw during his one-day trip to Kiev are “sad,” Paet said during the conversation.

He stressed that the Ukrainian people don’t trust the Maidan leaders, with all the opposition politicians slated to join the new government “having dirty past.”
The file was reportedly uploaded to the web by officers of Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) loyal to ousted President Viktor Yanukovich who hacked Paet’s and Ashton’s phones.
94 people were killed and another 900 injured during the standoff between police and protesters at Maidan Saquare in Kiev last month.

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[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

Not that this would be shocking or anything if real, but what's the proof behind this? The protesters were using weapons looted from government armories, so yeah of course the same type of bullets would be found in victims from both sides. Have they actually captured one of the guns used to kill protestors?

[adipocere]

It isn't proof of anything other than politicians are thugs and Russia is on a full propaganda offensive - which everyone already knows.

What I took away from it was that the "west" does not feel that the sniper tactic undermines the legitimacy of the new government - which is a tacit endorsement of it - particularly from the EU woman. I seemed that they were only discussing the issue from a damage control angle, and I got a slight impression that he may have brought up the sniper thing on purpose because he knew the line was tapped. She didn't seem very comfortable with the subject at all.

[cyu]

Not really surprising from fascists, including those at the top of intelligence agencies. If your ideology says you are naturally superior, then others are expendable, including those on your "own side" - if they should die to achieve your goals, it merely "proves" that they weren't "fit to survive".

http://www.bravenewlife.com/03/macleods-company-hierarchy-and-the-corporate-conscious/

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[Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages]

The propaganda is definitely being ratcheted up, I'm not willing to really take anything to be true at this point. I feel like groups on both sides keep trying to simplify it to make their job of gaining support easier, but it seems that everyone with any kind of significant influence on the ground also happens to be full of shit. I feel very sorry for anyone who took part in the protests with honest intentions.

[adipocere]

Another interesting thing to note from that conversation is what the EU woman was saying about the IMF. It was like a scene lifted right from the pages of Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine. That is the real tragedy for Ukraine.
(The conversation was a week ago.)

[willwinall]

Russia maybe on a full propaganda offensive but so are most news corporations like fox,cnn,msnbc and guess who they support....not russia for sure.:)