Communisation theory and Leninism

[Slavoj Zizek's Balls]

What are the views of communisation theorists on the 1917 October Insurrection and anything Leninist related (e.g. Leninism, Marxist-Leninism, Trotskyism etc.)?

Would someone mind grabbing the attention of Ravachol for this? I don't know if he's still active or not.

[human strike]

Communisation theorists don't agree on 1917. The perspective of Théorie Communiste is very different from that of Troploin (Gilles Dauvé), for example. I don't remember how much it deals specifically with 1917, but Endnotes 1 dealt with this debate on the context and meaning of the historical development of the communist movement in the 20th century: http://endnotes.org.uk/issues/1

But needless to say, in the contemporary context communisation theorists don't look on Leninism in the least bit favourably. At best it's described as a once appropriate form of struggle but now defunct, and at worst always shit, basically.

[Slavoj Zizek's Balls]

Communisation theorists don't agree on 1917. The perspective of Théorie Communiste is very different from that of Troploin (Gilles Dauvé), for example. I don't remember how much it deals specifically with 1917, but Endnotes 1 dealt with this debate on the context and meaning of the historical development of the communist movement in the 20th century: http://endnotes.org.uk/issues/1

But needless to say, in the contemporary context communisation theorists don't look on Leninism in the least bit favourably. At best it's described as a once appropriate form of struggle but now defunct, and at worst always shit, basically.

Are there any communisation theorists who do not consider the October 'Revolution' to be just that, a revolution?

[The Idler]

I'm not sure communisation theorists have Bolshevism as relevant to part of their theory at all.

[Slavoj Zizek's Balls]

I'm not sure communisation theorists have Bolshevism as relevant to part of their theory at all.

I understand that but, if you don't mind, I'd like a little more information.

[cantwealljustgetalong]

Communization theorists basically think Leninism is an anarchonism at best. They think the predictions about the industrial proletariat that tends to be a fixture of these organizations have not come to pass, and that class-consciousness has been undermined in a historically fatal way in favor of other identities. Communizers are skeptical of any party formation as well.