Bill Gates, Knight Commander of the British Empir

[Valkyrie]

Bill Gates to Receive Honorary Knighthood


LONDON (AP) - Britain will give an honorary knighthood to Microsoft Corp. chairman Bill Gates in recognition of his contribution to enterprise in Britain, the government said Monday.

Gates, 48, who is the richest man in the world, will receive the honor at an unspecified later date that is ``mutually convenient,'' the Foreign Office said.

Because he is not a British citizen, Gates cannot use ``Sir'' in front of his name, but he can put the letters KBE after his name. The initials stand for Knight Commander of the British Empire.

[Saint-Just]

There is not much of a British Empire these days.

[Valkyrie]

Tell that to the Irish and the Argentine's. The British Empire holds 13 overseas territories,--- that's even 7 more than the US, not including their long brutal military occupation of Northern Ireland.

[Al Creed]

Contribution?

I never knew creating a Monopoly and destroying all your competitors was SO benificial, you could be Knighted for it.

Me thinks Billy bought his Title.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 06:03 PM
Tell that to the Irish and the Argentine's. The British Empire holds 13 overseas territories,--- that's even 7 more than the US, not including their long brutal military occupation of Northern Ireland.
LOL if your refering to the Faulklands then I'm sure the sheep really care if they are Argentine or British, i'm sure that when the revolution comes they will rise up against the sheep dogs and farmers and smash them. Just as soon as they realise that unity is strength.

Go sheep!!!!!

;)

[Organic Revolution]

it shows you how much england values money,... cappie fucks

[dopediana]

look, jello biafra! it's new feudalism....

[Valkyrie]

huh engima? What the fuck are you talking about? It doesn't matter if there is nothing but earth worms living on the Falkland Islands... Argentina still has legal claim to it, You fucking Brit. :)

[The Children of the Revolution]

Actually, I believe it is penguins!! And I don't think Argentina have a legitimate claim to the Faulklands either!! (Yes, I am a "Damn Brit") And invading the island was clearly the wrong thing to do, whether you think it's "yours" or not!!

Damn Argies!!

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 06:03 PM
Tell that to the Irish and the Argentine's. The British Empire holds 13 overseas territories,--- that's even 7 more than the US, not including their long brutal military occupation of Northern Ireland.
Our occupation of Northern Ireland is unfortunate but Britain is doing its upmost to resolve the situation now. Concerning the falklands, there is no debate as to whether the islands are Britain's or whether we were right to take the islands, but the reality is that we did and now a lot of British people live there. Britain used to be the most powerful empire, so it is not surprising it has a number of overseas territories. Fortunately, unlike the U.S. Britain does not continue to infect countries culturally, and we do not exploit countries in the same way and on the same scale as the U.S. We have economically aided territories we previously held without exploitation, that is a vast difference between the old British empire and the Britain today.

Nicolae Ceausescu was also knighted by Elisabeth II.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 11:43 PM
huh engima? What the fuck are you talking about? It doesn't matter if there is nothing but earth worms living on the Falkland Islands... Argentina still has legal claim to it, You fucking Brit. :)
What the fuck are you talking about?

Absolutly nothing mate, I was just commenting that the sheep who populate the Island probably dont care if either we [the brits] farm them or the Argentines.

It doesn't matter if there is nothing but earth worms living on the Falkland Islands...

Yeah it does, know point in arguing about an island who's vast majority of inhabitants dont give a rats ass about who owns them or not.

Argentina still has legal claim to it,

how so? That Island existed long before anyone alive today was born, and it will still be there when we die, so ownership seems a little stupid to me. Then you also get onto inheritance, an idea, which I for one, dispise with a passion.

You fucking Brit. :)

Damn strait you fucking slave, get me a coffee and be quick about it. :lol:

[Valkyrie]

Enigma, It's not the nationality of the population of The Falkland's that's the conflict, which I think is about 3000 citizens and and British soldiers, or what kind of birds or animals. The Falklands is important to Great Britian because Petroleum is believed or known to be there. Isn't that what it's always about? should the UK claim the andes because on a clear night with binoculars and some imagination and drugs, the Andes can be seen from the Falklands? It's baffling that you guys are being aplogists for the UK's Imperialism. And Northern Ireland, is there any dispute there at all?

[kingbee]

ah well.

there was some guy called mike rowe, who wanted to set up an e-business. so he registered mikerowesoft.com (or summink along those lines). microsoft decided to try to shut him down offering $10 compensation. so he taking them to court. just thought you might like to know

re argentina: its malvinas thanks.

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 05:39 PM
Enigma, It's not the nationality of the population of The Falkland's that's the conflict, which I think is about 3000 citizens and and British soldiers, or what kind of birds or animals. The Falklands is important to Great Britian because Petroleum is believed or known to be there. Isn't that what it's always about? should the UK claim the andes because on a clear night with binoculars and some imagination and drugs, the Andes can be seen from the Falklands? It's baffling that you guys are being aplogists for the UK's Imperialism. And Northern Ireland, is there any dispute there at all?
Of course Northern Ireland belongs to the Republic of Ireland. The British know this, they do not think it is right to invade and occupy other people's lands. Britain no longer has an empire, it may be an imperialist nation but it is not as reactionary and brutal as it once was. Britain sees NI as a problem, not a successful conquest.

[Christopher]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 03:50 AM
Bill Gates to Receive Honorary Knighthood


LONDON (AP) - Britain will give an honorary knighthood to Microsoft Corp. chairman Bill Gates in recognition of his contribution to enterprise in Britain, the government said Monday.

Gates, 48, who is the richest man in the world, will receive the honor at an unspecified later date that is ``mutually convenient,'' the Foreign Office said.

Because he is not a British citizen, Gates cannot use ``Sir'' in front of his name, but he can put the letters KBE after his name. The initials stand for Knight Commander of the British Empire.
Gates and many others at those economic levels are members of secret societies. There are a number that have members that do not know they are networked together unconsciously. The controlling group of "good ol boys" has had their oral histories infiltrated and sabotaged and now next generation members do not hang out in lodges. This is a new global trend that is very dangerous to all life.

Modern humans of the US and other places influenced by the US often believe that we, modern western people with our science, medicine, psychology know everything about the mind. Most of those are unwilling to recognize that our unconscious mind is 86% of our mental ability. They usually will not recognize that all long term memory is of the unconscious mind.

Often they do not recognize that the process of dissociation (instant forgetting when extreme) includes documented instances where people had completely forgotten tremendously important things to their lives because of the disturbing qualities of the information.

A common perspective: "That shit can't effect me". This what the secret ones want us to believe.

There is a story that links Gates to Apple and the "Pirates of Silicon Valley story", that is a spiritual confrontation/competition of intellectual/technological industries spanning decades between numerous ancient spiritual factions, which is somewhat confirmed by Gates recent Knighthood.

The networking and dominance by different groups within the Silicon Valley story, mimics the same type interaction on global diplomatic scales controlling imperialism, globalism environmental and social justice issues.

If there is interest on how this hidden part of life can control us I will weave the secret side of the Silicon Valley story and name the factions, motives and intentions into a hypothesis inclusive to the relations of the Queens Knighting.

Mike Rowe, clearly exploiting by adding "soft" should be allowed to add "software", the full description of a computer program not just "soft". Fairness works both ways, that blind *****.

[Yazman]

Australia is still part of the british empire.

[Valkyrie]

We shall see, Chairman Mao, what history has in store for the Irish people.

Granted, the UK now wants to resolve the problem of having created the situation that now divides a people who despise eachother to the death. I can foresee without much effort a United Ireland and a preceeding very bloody protracted civil war.

And Chairman.. how can you say the UK does not believe in Invading and Occupying other people's land... Are they not, right at this moment, In Iraq?

[Saint-Just]

We shall see, Chairman Mao, what history has in store for the Irish people.

Granted, the UK now wants to resolve the problem of having created the situation that now divides a people who despise eachother to the death. I can foresee without much effort a United Ireland and a preceeding very bloody protracted civil war.

I think that NI will become part of a greater Ireland when the Catholic population overtakes the Protestant population in NI.


And Chairman.. how can you say the UK does not believe in Invading and Occupying other people's land... Are they not, right at this moment, In Iraq?

You are right to a large extent. I qualified my point by saying we were imperialist but not as brutal as we used to be. I should not have necessarily said we do not believe in invading and occupying. But the decisions of Tony Blair are more representative than the American people than the British people on occasion.

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by The Children of the [email protected] 27 2004, 01:42 AM
Actually, I believe it is penguins!! And I don't think Argentina have a legitimate claim to the Faulklands either!! (Yes, I am a "Damn Brit") And invading the island was clearly the wrong thing to do, whether you think it's "yours" or not!!
I'm Argentinian and I can tell you that you are right.

In fact in school they thaught us that "las Malvinas son Argentinas" (that the falklands are argentinian), and that they are because they are in the same "continental platform" or something like that. Excuse me if I'm being dumb, but this should mean that "we" can claim our right to control Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile..., and viceversa, which would end up in huge imperialist and fascist wars.


Damn Argies!!

Yeah sure, as we are all responsible for what a bunch of fascist neo-liberal anti-democratic genocides did.

Anyway I don't we why the islands should be "ours" or "theirs", because property is theft, and the idea is ridicolous, old-fashioned and imperialist (of course).

Concerning the Bill Gates thing, one word describes that: corporativism.
Our should I say fascism? Anyway who cares, after all that monarchy are just fake "chosen by God" idiots and don't have any more power.

[Christopher]

The divisions of secret societies in Europe was nearly invisible in some ways, all are related to ancient sun worship. The Templarian control through Scotland over England put dominance with the modern faith of the Templar over the Irish who still recognized Rome. The Templar found acceptance into society through merging with the Masonic order ultimately infiltrating and weakening them with a fear of the true communication being made.

Resentments abound in the British Isles from here on. The fact the the Roman church had betrayed their faithful warriors; burned them at the stake, and driven them from France where they concieved world dominance after performing a secret mapping of the worlds coastlines; later to be used by Rome to found the mission chain and the dominance over the indigenous peoples; escapes most modern analysis of any political situation anywhere in the world.

In 1983 Ronald Reagan forged a semi secret agreement with the Vatican that allowed Catholics to become Masons, barred for 700 years because of the earlier Templars banning as heretics by Rome.

With communism the Tuetonic and Baltic of Circacaus origin, blended through suppressed unconscious groupings based in Masonry to form communism as it was seen in East Germany. Macedonia was a great hub of this in the 1800'a. Examine the similarity between the Masonic symbol and the East German border guard insignia.

http://truthasaur.com/secret_history/images/egermanguard.jpg
http://truthasaur.com/secret_history/images/masonsym.jpg

This Macedonian flag should convince most of the relation to ancient sun worship.
http://sunsite.tus.ac.jp/multimed/pics/flags/macedonia.gif

In America the Native Americans were constantly trying to make the secret fraternal order aware of the occluded collusions that are now multinational corporations acting in step with the US government achieving imperialism on a scale never seen before. Unfortunately the Indigenous rarely had the assitance of Europeans colonizing; under the government, controlled by unconscious power; in creating a nation free of that dominance.

Things have changed little.

[Vladimir]

Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 27 2004, 09:50 PM
Of course Northern Ireland belongs to the Republic of Ireland. The British know this, they do not think it is right to invade and occupy other people's lands. Britain no longer has an empire, it may be an imperialist nation but it is not as reactionary and brutal as it once was. Britain sees NI as a problem, not a successful conquest.
The 'Republic Of Ireland' is the name of the Soccer/football team not the state. 'Ireland' or 'Eire' should be used.

N.I is a problem, with so many conservative bigots in power, it's hard not to be. I do not want a United Ireland. It's not economically viable, paying for security is a big problem, not one that Ireland would be able to handle properly. Leave it to the Brit taxpayers ;)


I think that NI will become part of a greater Ireland when the Catholic population overtakes the Protestant population in NI.

I think it already has, but If I was in N.I, I would prefer to stay under British control.

[Valkyrie]

Well, I am like....stupefied now. you're all starting to sound like British Loyalist and Monarchists. "God save the Queen."---- and Tony Blair. too.

All this should be a no-brainer. Aren't we supposed to be in solidarity with the downtrodden? Apparently, nuetrality ends at the Border.

I'm curious to hear your views of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by V.I. [email protected] 30 2004, 07:34 PM
The 'Republic Of Ireland' is the name of the Soccer/football team not the state. 'Ireland' or 'Eire' should be used.
Republic of Ireland is perfectly acceptable. I agree that Eire is more accurate. In Britain we often say Republic of Ireland or Eire in business and political spheres. Where are you from?

I think your comment was rather pedantic. If some Irish were to find Republic of Ireland offensive then you are right that I should not have wrote that. However, I do not think they do find it offensive.


I think it already has, but If I was in N.I, I would prefer to stay under British control.

I heard that that catholic population be over 50% by about 2015. Maybe it has already. Do you mean you would prefer to be under British control as a Protestant or as either a Protestant or Catholic?

[BOZG]

And Northern Ireland, is there any dispute there at all?


Well yes, there's the huge matter of a majority population which is hostile towards becoming part of the Republic. There will never be a peaceful United Ireland on the basis of capitalism (even more so than other nations). It is in the interests of the ruling class, British and Irish, to keep great divides in the 2 main communities.




Aren't we supposed to be in solidarity with the downtrodden?

Of course but there's as much poverty and oppression in working class Protestant communities as there is in Catholic communities.



Also as has been said, a United Ireland is not actually economically viable to the Republic. We're already in the process of an economic downturn and a government offensive on welfare and workers' rights. Services are already overstretched and underfunded without the addition of a 1,000,000+ more people. Povety levels among children are actually quite similar to that of Britain, the government just trys to keep it quiet and the Taoiseach (PM) has actually claimed that the government's own anti-poverty agency's figures are wrong.