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RedCornFlakes
28th February 2014, 01:02
Capitalism and Communism are both materialistic ideologies, but in what way exactly? And what seperates communist materialism from capitalist materialism?

Fourth Internationalist
28th February 2014, 03:03
Capitalism and communism aren't single ideologies. There are many different ideologies under each. Do you have a more specific pair of ideologies (one communist ideology and one bourgeois ideology) that you would prefer to compare? Regardless, I would question any bourgeois ideology that claims to be materialist. Most, if not all, contain idealism (so do a lot of communist ideologies, to be truthful).

IBleedRed
28th February 2014, 04:06
When people refer to capitalism as "materialistic", what they really mean is that it promotes consumerism, or the idea that life's worth can be measured by how much (and which brands) you consume. It has nothing to do with the philosophical notion of materialism.

In fact, capitalism is very idealistic. Its foundation is the idea that capitalism is meritocratic, i.e, that all you need is "hard work" and virtue to be successful. This all has no basis in fact, of course.

Thirsty Crow
28th February 2014, 04:39
Capitalism and Communism are both materialistic ideologies, but in what way exactly? And what seperates communist materialism from capitalist materialism?
Capitalism isn't an ideology. There are numerous ideologies which legitimize capitalism, nowadays mostly through making it seem natural and inevitable/eternal, but the society itself isn't in any way "materialist" which would be similar to the historical materialism advocated and practiced by communists.

Dodo
2nd March 2014, 02:12
Materialistic and materialism are not the same thing. Materialistic is used in daily life for people who value too much on "material things", materialism is a philosophical stance on the formation ideas, conciousness, being...etc

Both capitalism and communism primarily refers to modes of production, a state of nature rather than an ideology. Both modes of production creates their own "ideological" appereance on the existant structure in various ways, rarely in a single united fashion.