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ckaihatsu
27th February 2014, 23:12
US prepares to withdraw from Afghanistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77oKGkBP9eA
The Intransigent Faction
3rd March 2014, 04:39
Sure it does.
ckaihatsu
30th May 2014, 17:30
Obama says U.S. will continue war in Afghanistan past 2014
By Meredith Aby-Keirstead
Minneapolis, MN - President Obama announced May 27, that by 2015 the U.S. will have 9,800 troops in Afghanistan and that by the end of 2016 the U.S. will leave troops to guard the U.S. embassy in Kabul. The next day when Secretary of State John Kerry was interviewed by Chuck Todd on MSNBC, Todd pointed out that “there’s eight more years of that agreement, and the next president, without the authorization of Congress, without seeking new permission from Afghanistan, could end up sending more troops back in” and Kerry agreed that it is possible that the U.S. could send in more troops. He was quick to point out that that decision would be made under a different administration though.
While the President’s speech focused on how the U.S. is changing its operation in Afghanistan, many in the anti-war movement see the speech as a political smokescreen for the U.S. continuing its war and occupation of the country.
Sarah Martin, an activist with Women Against Military Madness reacted to the president’s speech, “Make no mistake about it, these troops will be seen as a continuation of the US/NATO occupation of Afghanistan. Life for the Afghan people especially women and girls will continue to be dangerous. The Afghans will be able to get on with their lives when there are zero troops in Afghanistan."
Sophia Hansen-Day from the Anti-War Committee agreed, “With his declaration that almost 10,000 U.S. troops will remain on the ground in Afghanistan after 2014, President Obama yet again proves his steadfast commitment to empire building. Once again, his initial calls for change ring hollow in favor of the hypocrisy of Washington.”
Military Families Speak Out has called for protests in response to the president’s announcement. So far there have been protests in Kansas City, California and New Jersey. There will be a picket at in Minneapolis, Minnesota at Senator Amy Klobuchar’s office on Friday, May 30, at 4:30 PM to show opposition to the continuation of a U.S. presence in Afghanistan. The protest is organized by the MN Peace Action Coalition.
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IllumiNaughty
31st May 2014, 18:59
They said this like what, 20 times already?
RedAnarchist
1st June 2014, 03:14
The US and their cronies are the best allies the Taliban could have hoped for.
Bostana
1st June 2014, 04:18
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/50305760.jpg
ProletariatPower
1st June 2014, 06:12
The US and their cronies are the best allies the Taliban could have hoped for.
So true, the more such imperialist powers interfere in these nations the stronger the Islamist groups grow.
It doesn't stop there though, the relationship goes both ways. To the US government the 'War on Terror' is a god-send, this obvious diversionary war tactic to distract the masses will be dragged out for as long as possible. As long as people can be duped into being terrified of everyone wearing a turban they will continue this charade with the intent of distraction from who the true enemy to the American people is (the American government). It's no coincidence that the US took so long to kill Bin Ladin, they weren't even aiming to 'defeat' the Al Queda, they were just using them for economic exploitation of foreign nations and as a diversionary war. Hence why I doubt they will actually pull out this year, and even when they're done I'm sure they'll soon find a new 'imminent threat' to terrorise people with.
ckaihatsu
2nd June 2014, 19:50
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The primary aim of modern warfare (in accordance with the principles of doublethink, this aim is simultaneously recognized and not recognized by the directing brains of the Inner Party) is to use up the products of the machine without raising the general standard of living. Ever since the end of the nineteenth century, the problem of what to do with the surplus of consumption goods has been latent in industrial society. At present, when few human beings even have enough to eat, this problem is obviously not urgent, and it might not have become so, even if no artificial processes of destruction had been at work.
[T]he purpose of the unwinnable, perpetual war is to consume human labour and commodities, hence the economy of a superstate cannot support economic equality (a high standard of life) for every citizen. By using up most of the produced objects like boots and rations the "proles" are kept poor and uneducated so that they will not realize what the government is doing and they will not rebel. Goldstein also details an Oceanian strategy of attacking enemy cities with atomic rockets before invasion, yet dismisses it as unfeasible and contrary to the war's purpose; despite the atomic bombing of cities in the 1950s the superstates stopped such warfare lest it imbalance the powers.
The standard of living of the populace is low overall. Consumer goods are scarce, and those available through official channels are invariably of low quality; for instance, despite the Party regularly reporting increased boot production, upwards of half of the Oceanian populace goes barefoot. The Party claims that this poverty is a necessary sacrifice for the war effort, and "The Book" confirms this is partially correct, since the purpose of perpetual war is consuming surplus industrial production. Outer Party members and proles occasionally gain access to better-quality items through the black market, dealing in goods pilfered from the residences of the Inner Party.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
Comrade Jacob
2nd June 2014, 19:51
Wait...what? I though Obama was just sending 10,000 more troops.:confused:
4thInter
2nd June 2014, 20:34
Wait...what? I though Obama was just sending 10,000 more troops.:confused:
He is, i think its just an imperialist plot to squeeze Pakistan's testicles... On the account their paralement wants to shoot down US drones. A little, "american freedom" i might add...:laugh: He says they're their because of the US backed elections, which i can see but Pakistan ands their anti-drones laws might be another cause.
Psycho P and the Freight Train
2nd June 2014, 20:36
Wait...what? I though Obama was just sending 10,000 more troops.:confused:
I actually heard that he was withdrawing everyone except for 10,000 troops leftover. No doubt to protect those opium fields. ;)
Ven0m
3rd June 2014, 09:26
another neo-colonial fuckup
CalmlikeaBomb
3rd June 2014, 16:38
Imperialism is fundamental Islams best friend.
ckaihatsu
3rd June 2014, 19:00
Imperialism is fundamental Islams best friend.
I have 'imperialists' right next to the 'religious right' on my political spectrum....
[3] Ideologies & Operations -- Fundamentals
http://s6.postimage.org/cpkm723u5/3_Ideologies_Operations_Fundamentals.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/cpkm723u5/)
Redistribute the Rep
3rd June 2014, 19:21
I have 'imperialists' right next to the 'religious right' on my political spectrum....
[3] Ideologies & Operations -- Fundamentals
http://s6.postimage.org/cpkm723u5/3_Ideologies_Operations_Fundamentals.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/cpkm723u5/)
Why are Stalinists on the decentralized block :confused:?
ckaihatsu
3rd June 2014, 19:28
Why are Stalinists on the decentralized block :confused:?
'Cause they're limited to one country, whatever that country happens to be.
( Also: )
Political Spectrum, Simplified
http://s6.postimage.org/c9u5b2ajx/2373845980046342459jv_Mrd_G_fs.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/c9u5b2ajx/)
ckaihatsu
3rd June 2014, 20:41
Supporter,
As he gave vague outlines of developing US military strategy while speaking at the West Point commencement last week, President Obama affirmed that he believes “in American exceptionalism with every fiber of my being.” The previous day, he had announced that instead of all U.S. troops leaving in 2014, as had been the mantra, 9,800 would stay at least until 2016.
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http://org.salsalabs.com/o/1170/t/0/blastContent.jsp?email_blast_KEY=1299870
CalmlikeaBomb
3rd June 2014, 20:44
Supporter,
As he gave vague outlines of developing US military strategy while speaking at the West Point commencement last week, President Obama affirmed that he believes “in American exceptionalism with every fiber of my being.” The previous day, he had announced that instead of all U.S. troops leaving in 2014, as had been the mantra, 9,800 would stay at least until 2016.
[...]
By then it will be Hillary's problem
ckaihatsu
3rd June 2014, 21:13
By then it will be Hillary's problem
Yeah, I posted it for the 'American exceptionalism' part -- undoubtedly many here would click the 'duh' button if there was one.
The Intransigent Faction
4th June 2014, 03:49
many here would click the 'duh' button if there was one.
RevLeft admins, get on it!
I'd make a more productive post but ckaihatsu covered everything. :glare:
ckaihatsu
4th June 2014, 19:29
RevLeft admins, get on it!
I'd make a more productive post but ckhaitsu covered everything. :glare:
Or, even better, how about a 'ban this user' for everyone, on every post...(!) (kidding)
(My name is doomed to be misspelled forever....)
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