Comrade Jacob
22nd February 2014, 14:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA
Discuss.
Red Banana
22nd February 2014, 14:35
Did you seriously just link us to a Prison Planet Live video?
Comrade Jacob
22nd February 2014, 14:40
Did you seriously just link us to a Prison Planet Live video?
I don't know anything of the user, but this video was the only debunking I've seen.
EDIT: Ignore the messenger, focus on the message. I did not know this guy was an Alex Jones fanatic.
Tim Cornelis
22nd February 2014, 14:42
I think it's ridiculous to claim, as the second video does, that this is a Western-instigated revolt. As if Western powers possess the instruments to manipulate people to stage such an uprising and risk their lives. There are genuine grievances in Ukraine that have lead to this crisis, widespread corruption, repression, and comparatively poor economic development in comparison to other European countries. And of course there are the pro-liberal centre and moderate rightist people whom make up a substantial part of the protests, with far-rightists in many ways spearheading the movement, functioning as a vanguard (though a minority still). Of course, that first video wants to frame it in the liberal sense only, understandably since it's why they are there and why most people are in the streets.
It's not first and foremost a geopolitical tug of war as is suggested in the second video, though of course Russia and the West seek to extend their influence.
EDIT:
Focusing exclusively on the first Ukrainian woman video, it's slick, emotional. It's presumably made by some liberal NGO, trying to frame it as an exclusively pro-liberal democracy movement, as a sort of wishful thinking.
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