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Dodo
21st February 2014, 19:45
You know what has a great deal power in the post-modern world and the youth of the day? Sense of humor.
When a revolutionary goes on to them and says "hey have you accepted Jes..Karl Marx as your lord and saviour", it sometimes has a stigmatizing effect.
People love however to ridicule everything. The power of criticism, although it empties the meaning of the act is multiplied with sense of humor.
Those online de-motivational poster one-liners have defined people's lives. They are also very powerful especially to reach youth online who's minds are still in the making and more open.
Ethically speaking, since pretty much everything in the world is made up of propoganda-ideology, I do not see anything unfair for flooding the net with these de-motivational one-liners that criticizes everything criticizies Marxists.
Besides, even the critique of Marxism is not "honest" as there are a lot of over-simplifications....

This stuff can easily be spread through 9gag, 4chan, reddit ,forum whatever...

Just take a picture that you believe symbolizes something. Like Reagan, Thatcher for neo-conservatism, Milton Friedman,Hayek, Mises for market fundementalism or whatever philosopher. Creative political humor I think can make a big difference for the new generations. What do you think?

I realized this when I was writing to strawman arguments threads.

"Marxism is utopian and deterministic, I believe in an invisible hand that will solve the problems of economy when it is left alone"

On a picture of someone who fiercely depends neo-classical theory for instance?We are revolutionaries, agitators and this is for free and easy to spread. I don't understand why it has not been adapted by party mechanisms. Perhaps they are too serious :) I don't knowI mean look at this, do you not find it as an amazing propoganda tool? People already do stuff like this but not in an organized way. Socialist memes group on Facebook did some pretty hilarious stuff.

http://s8.postimg.org/xw9t3h8d1/friedman.png

This is of course very amateur and ugly but I believe you guys can do much better stuff

motion denied
22nd February 2014, 00:17
The heck is the "post-modern world"?

Actually I think this is some kind of facebook activism, which in many cases seems to replace actual study and activism. Some images are funny, but wholly useless.

Dodo
22nd February 2014, 14:04
The heck is the "post-modern world"?

Actually I think this is some kind of facebook activism, which in many cases seems to replace actual study and activism. Some images are funny, but wholly useless.

By post-modern I am referring to the rejection of classical theories of knowledge and embracing an extreme amount of relativism.
People now think its cool to screw with grand products of the past.

My point was not to be funny. Its just I believe it is actually quiet effective as a propoganda tool. A lot of people even before this stuff loved to refer to meaningless "one-liners" from random people like W.Churchill to make a point without any form of theoretical framework.
This is not for people who actually sit and read stuff, this is for the majority who don't do it.

Comrade Jacob
22nd February 2014, 14:15
I agree. Where not exactly a funny bunch are we? We are a nice mixture of depression-suffers and condescending arse-holes.

Loony Le Fist
2nd March 2014, 16:22
I admire your efforts to create some propaganda and get it out there. However, it seems that it is a wasted effort to propagandize 4chan. Many on there are simply machiavellian, psychopathic, and manipulative trolls. It doesn't seem as if canvassing that site with propaganda is going to produce results.

The Garbage Disposal Unit
7th March 2014, 14:19
I admire your efforts to create some propaganda and get it out there. However, it seems that it is a wasted effort to propagandize 4chan. Many on there are simply machiavellian, psychopathic, and manipulative trolls. It doesn't seem as if canvassing that site with propaganda is going to produce results.

*Shrug*

Fight where you stand, right?

How many of us have been, at one point or another, trolls?
If we know the language and the M.O., why not?

That said, I think going into 4chan, or Something Awful, or any internet community (much like with any irl community) requires an organic base - if you don't know the lingo, the norms, the "in jokes" etc., it's going to be a fucking disaster to strut in and be all, "Hey y'all! I've got the answers you've been looking for!" One needs to invest some time in coming to understand the scene - show some patience, some willingness to learn, etc.

I know that might be obvious, but I'm often amazed by the ways that people fail at putting it into practice (and, to be fair, it was a lesson I learned the hard way).

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
7th March 2014, 14:42
I think it's important to put online communities into perspective. Are people going to 4chan or reddit with the intention of learning something new or even with the intention of really interacting with other humans..or are they killing time at work, entertaining themselves while waiting for a bus or just in zombie mode at home waiting until they fall asleep for the night? Typing a URL into a browser is not the same level of commitment as say attending a meeting or lecture, so I think it's unrealistic to expect the same level of discourse on the part of those in attendance in either situation. I mean there is a pretty good chance that the person you're arguing with on 4chan or whatever is watching a porno in a diffent window while they write their responses, is this a mindset conducive to discussion?

kingkobra
12th March 2014, 03:29
Agreed with the points others made about 4chan, but I think the crux of what you're getting to is key: our ideas have to be accessible and part of that is humor. It's a much easier way to spread an idea than little red books.