Feudalists vs capitalists

[bropasaran]

Are landowners that have peasants living on and tilling the land they own- capitalists?

If yes, what's the difference between a feudalist and a capitalist; if no, being that this would mean that we still have feudalism, does that have any implication on our anti-capitalism?

[GiantMonkeyMan]

In the feudal era, peasant workers usually gave their landowners a portion of the produce they harvested as rent and a portion to the feudal lord as tax keeping what remained for themselves. In comparison, the contemporary wage workers that are hired by agricultural corporations are paid a wage for the hours that they work and have no direct relationship to the produce itself. So we can say that landowners in the contemporary era, who pay their workers in wages, are capitalists because the system they operate with is capitalism.

There are some blurred lines with co-operative land take-overs by agricultural workers etc but as a global system there was a fundamental change in the way agricultural workers sustained themselves when the capitalist system was adopted over feudalism.

[tuwix]

Are landowners that have peasants living on and tilling the land they own- capitalists?

If yes, what's the difference between a feudalist and a capitalist; if no, being that this would mean that we still have feudalism, does that have any implication on our anti-capitalism?

Now owners of land are capitalist. But feudalism from capitalism differs a kind of property. Simply peasants working on soil of landlord were property of him during a feudalism.

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

There are feudal landowners left but they are largely incorporated into the system of modern capitalism and, insofar as they adopt feudal models of wealth extraction and property distribution, they lose to competition with businessmen. Many just end up becoming Capitalists over time. There's a thread in the History section which mentions the Meiji restoration, where Samurai were paid money to put down their weapons, reject the de jure support of their feudal privileges, and basically become small capitalists. The fact is that capitalism is more efficient than feudalism, as Marx explained, and this pressure either drives feudal elites out of their class by dispossession or assimilation.