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adipocere
19th February 2014, 01:45
/sigh


F.B.I. Joins Ole Miss Inquiry After Noose Is Left on Statue (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/19/us/fbi-joins-ole-miss-inquiry-after-noose-is-left-on-statue.html)

By ALAN BLINDERFEB. 18, 2014





OXFORD, Miss. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/federal_bureau_of_investigation/index.html?inline=nyt-org) said Tuesday that it had joined the inquiry into an act of vandalism at the University of Mississippi (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/u/university_of_mississippi/index.html?inline=nyt-org), where a statue of the universitys first black student was found with a noose and a flag with the Confederate battle emblem.
The university authorities have said they are seeking two men in the episode, which happened early Sunday on the campus of more than 22,000 students, 24 percent of whom are minorities.
A witness said the men screamed racial slurs as they defaced the statue (http://www.olemiss.edu/tours/lmsections-civilrights.html) of James Meredith,(emphasis mine) who was admitted in 1962 amid violence and after the intervention of the Kennedy administration.
These individuals chose our universitys most visible symbol of unity and educational accessibility to express their disagreement with our values, the universitys chancellor, Daniel W. Jones, said in a statement (https://secure1.olemiss.edu/tools/userfiles/rmwhitti-300-K9jswyLJ.html). Their ideas have no place here, and our response will be an even greater commitment to promoting the values that are engraved on the statue courage, knowledge, opportunity and perseverance.
The universitys alumni association is offering a $25,000 reward to aid in the investigation, which the school characterized as rigorous.
Deborah Madden, a spokeswoman for the F.B.I. in Jackson, Miss., said that federal agents were assisting the university police in the inquiry.
It was the second high-profile act of intolerance on the campus this academic year. Last semester, the university was embarrassed after audience members used homophobic slurs (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/education/university-of-mississippi-investigating-anti-gay-heckling-at-theater-performance.html) at a performance of The Laramie Project, a production about the 1998 murder of a gay college student.
The university, known as Ole Miss, also drew attention in 2012 when a demonstration (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/us/anti-obama-protest-at-university-of-mississippi-turns-unruly.html) after President Obamas re-election disintegrated into a volley of racial epithets; two students were arrested.
But on Tuesday afternoon, there were few outward signs of dissonance at Ole Miss as scores of students and employees staged a quickly planned vigil at the statue of Mr. Meredith, which was dedicated in 2006. Students held signs with messages that included, The actions done in the cowardly dark will never diminish the light of James Merediths legacy nor our creed. Someone had also placed a rose at the statue before the vigil.
Willie Toles Jr., a biology major, said he was startled by the attackers approach.
Im still kind of in shock at the tactics that some people try to use, either to try to intimidate or to provoke a reaction from the university, said Mr. Toles, who is black. What motive do you have for doing these types of things?
The demonstrators, who gathered mere hours after students began planning the event, said they wanted to send a message.
This has happened here before, so people think that they can just do it, said Ashley Cummins, a general studies major who is white and who helped to organize the demonstration. We do care what they do, and there need to be consequences.

tachosomoza
19th February 2014, 01:52
Sigh...Mississippi.

Brandon's Impotent Rage
19th February 2014, 02:09
We have a saying in Georgia:
"Thank God for Alabama!"

They also have a saying in Alabama:
"Thank God for Mississippi!"

adipocere
19th February 2014, 03:13
They also have a saying in Alabama:
"Thank God for Mississippi!"
That is 100% accurate - I always heard that growing up in discussions about the shitty state of Alabama schools.

Still it's worth mentioning that Jackson, the capitol of Miss, has Chowkie Lumumba (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/19/in-mississippi-americaasmostrevolutionarymayor.html) as a mayor. So that truly is progress and nothing we should be turning our noses up at.

It is also worth mention that almost 40% of the population of Mississippi is black - so as leftists, we should keep that in mind when we make fun of Mississippi, because there is an undercurrent of classism (and racism) in the collective dismissal of an entire area based on negative stereotypes of poverty and the overt displays of racism of a very few whites. Mississippi could be a bastion of left activism if only we actually decided to stop framing it in a white context.

Marshal of the People
19th February 2014, 03:32
We learnt about the American South in history class last year and it was very interesting. My substitute history teacher who happened to be American said the incessant racism in the South due to the European Southerners (not all of them might I add) feeling upset and angry about having to pay the Africans right after abolition, these people then passed it on to their children who passed it on to theirs, and so the chain continued to today.

To any Americans on this forum; Would you say the above is correct and do you have anything to add?

tachosomoza
19th February 2014, 03:39
We learnt about the American South in history class last year and it was very interesting. My substitute history teacher who happened to be American said the incessant racism in the South due to the European Southerners (not all of them might I add) feeling upset and angry about having to pay the Africans right after abolition, these people then passed it on to their children who passed it on to theirs, and so the chain continued to today.

To any Americans on this forum; Would you say the above is correct and do you have anything to add?

The European Southerners didn't pay the Africans anything after abolition, they reenslaved them under something called sharecropping, which was essentially maintaining them in eternal debt slavery. The racism in the United States stems from the early landowners pitting white and black indentured servants against one another during the earliest days of settlement to prevent a joint revolt, in addition to the desire for a scientific sounding justification for enslaving other human beings. For a white southerner at any time in history, life may have sucked, but they could always comfort themselves in the fact that they were free whites who could legally own property and vote and read/write/assimilate and not enslaved blacks who were legally restricted from doing these things, a privilege and comfort they jealously guarded with rope, fire and gun. Then you add in the scientific racism that they were indoctrinated into believing in schools, and you've got the American style racism.

Marshal of the People
19th February 2014, 04:28
The European Southerners didn't pay the Africans anything after abolition, they reenslaved them under something called sharecropping, which was essentially maintaining them in eternal debt slavery. The racism in the United States stems from the early landowners pitting white and black indentured servants against one another during the earliest days of settlement to prevent a joint revolt, in addition to the desire for a scientific sounding justification for enslaving other human beings. For a white southerner at any time in history, life may have sucked, but they could always comfort themselves in the fact that they were free whites who could legally own property and vote and read/write/assimilate and not enslaved blacks who were legally restricted from doing these things, a privilege and comfort they jealously guarded with rope, fire and gun. Then you add in the scientific racism that they were indoctrinated into believing in schools, and you've got the American style racism.Thank you. I don't know very much about America so I thank you for enlightening me.

EDIT: Wait, so African-Americans aren't payed now? Or are only some not payed?

Sinister Intents
19th February 2014, 04:48
Thank you. I don't know very much about America so I thank you for enlightening me.

EDIT: Wait, so African-Americans aren't payed now? Or are only some not payed?

People are paid now as wage slaves. Some assholes would like to not pay people a wage, and just use them as slave labor. I have met some sickeningly pro racist people in my area of New York and we're in the north not the south. This one kid names Andrew would always refer to them as the N word and sub humans, and wish for them to be used as slave labour so he didn't have to work. Another person I've met worked for my business and he was very pro slavery and very pro genocide

tachosomoza
19th February 2014, 04:55
EDIT: Wait, so African-Americans aren't payed now? Or are only some not payed?

Lol, no, African Americans work like everyone else for wages. Some are even bourgeois. We never received recompense for our slavery, though. We were promised 40 acres and a mule but never got it, even if we did the whites would have shot the mule, strung us up and took the land.

adipocere
19th February 2014, 05:04
Thank you. I don't know very much about America so I thank you for enlightening me.

EDIT: Wait, so African-Americans aren't payed now? Or are only some not payed?
Of course they are paid now, just far less than whites. They are still segregated from whites in schools and neighborhoods, thrown in prison en masse, and increasingly shot in the street by white men "standing their ground".

Orange Juche
21st February 2014, 09:01
I often wonder if racism has actually decreased beyond a statistical anomaly since the civil rights era. Yes - there aren't lynchings as your common weekend social outing anymore, so racism as a verb is certainly less, but I get the impression that racists haven't gone down (at least in the south), and the racial hatred that created those kinds of things haven't gone down - at least, not in any meaningful capacity.

tachosomoza
21st February 2014, 09:07
I get the impression that racists haven't gone down (at least in the south), and the racial hatred that created those kinds of things haven't gone down - at least, not in any meaningful capacity.

Espousing raw racism is a taboo in public now. It still exists, it's just kept in private among family, close friends and the internet. We're supposedly a meritocracy and everybody is judged on the content of their character and their abilities, but we all know better. It's gone from open hostility and violence to grudging tolerance and occasional violence against innocent people of color under the protection of "stand your ground laws".

adipocere
24th February 2014, 20:24
article in link:

Ole Miss Fraternity Suspended For Hanging a Noose on Statue of Civil Rights Hero (http://www.alternet.org/education/ole-miss-fraternity-suspended-hanging-noose-statue-civil-rights-hero)
February 23, 2014 (http://www.alternet.org/education/ole-miss-fraternity-suspended-hanging-noose-statue-civil-rights-hero)

Three freshmen were expelled from their fraternity at University of Mississippi (popularly known as Ole Miss) Friday for hanging a noose on a statue of James Meredith, a civil rights hero who was the first African American to attend the university. The chapter has also been suspended indefinitely by the national Sigma Phi Epsilon organization.
Ole Miss and local police concluded that the three white 19-year-olds from Georgia were responsible for hanging the noose and plastering an old Georgia flag bearing the Confederate symbol on the statue’s face. The students could face criminal charges, if Ole Miss police get their way, and the FBI is investigating (http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ole-miss-suspects-noose-james-meredith-20140221,0,6423345.story#axzz2u9r71iBf) the incident as a possible hate crime.
While the university and fraternity may try to spin this as an isolated offense confined to these three freshmen, the culture at Ole Miss and elsewhere often perpetuates racist displays. Just a day after the noose was discovered, a black Ole Miss student reported (http://www.kait8.com/story/24792226/ole-miss-student-victimized-in-off-campus-racial-attack) that a truck full of students threw alcohol on her and called her racist names while she was walking to her car. Ole Miss was also thrust in the spotlight after the 2012 election, when hundreds of Ole Miss students (http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/ole_miss_students_start_racist_protest_after_elect ion_result/) rioted, screaming racial epithets about President Obama and black people in general.
At other universities, frat culture tends to be at the center of many racial offenses. Most recently, an Arizona State University fraternity was expelled (http://jezebel.com/arizona-state-expels-frat-responsible-for-racist-mlk-da-1508089514) for holding an “MLK black party” on Martin Luther King, Jr.’s birthday, using stereotypical props like watermelons and basketball jerseys. Predominantly white frat parties at other schools have included blackface (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/university-of-florida-blackface-beta-theta-pi_n_2038326.html), Asian costumes (http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/07/duke-university-fraternity-suspended-over-asian-themed-racist-rager/), and “catch an illegal immigrant” (http://raycomgroup.worldnow.com/story/24028797/randolph-macon-investigating-racist-party-at-fraternity) games.

tachosomoza
24th February 2014, 20:35
For anyone interested in the circumstances surrounding the admission of Meredith to Ole Miss, I'd recommend American Insurrection by Doyle. Kennedy had to deploy fucking soldiers to stop the man from being lynched. Reactionaries from several states flocked to Oxford to "help kill the n*****".

Mathemagician
14th May 2014, 15:05
We were promised 40 acres and a mule

But that's not true is it?

I mean, Sherman promised it to a select group of slaves, but he didn't have the authority to do such a thing, and probably never planned on doing it in the first place.

Kaoxic
16th May 2014, 13:23
Disgusting.