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boiler
12th February 2014, 15:01
Far-left guerrilla group claims anti-capitalist attack, calls for more

The far-leftist guerrilla group Group of Popular Fighters on Tuesday claimed responsibility for an attack in December on the home of the German ambassador in Athens, describing it as a protest against the German capitalist machine and ongoing austerity in Greece.

In a proclamation published on the website of To Pontiki newspaper, the group said it carried out the attack to express solidarity with Greeks whose living standards have been slashed by austerity measures. As we sprayed gunfire at the hyper-luxury home of the German ambassador we imagined beside us the thousands of people who line up at soup kitchens the unemployed, those working for 400 euros [a month], it said.

The group, which also claimed an attack on the headquarters of New Democracy in January last year, said the hit on the German ambassadors home was in memory of Dimitris Christoulas, a pensioner who shot himself in Syntagma Square in April 2012 in protest at the austerity measures.

The group also claimed to have fired a rocket-propelled grenade at the offices of Mercedes-Benz in Varibombi, north of Athens, last month. The police said it had found no evidence of such an attack.

Ending the proclamation, the group called on all guerrillas to join an anti-European, anti-capitalist campaign of armed attacks.



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Comrade #138672
12th February 2014, 16:56
Anti-European? Are they nationalists?

boiler
12th February 2014, 17:09
Anti-European? Are they nationalists?

I don't know. I was thinking they were probably an anarchist group

Queen Mab
12th February 2014, 17:33
Attacking capitalism by attacking the German ambassador is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. As if capitalism is a foreign imposition on Greece :confused:

Criminalize Heterosexuality
12th February 2014, 17:38
Attacking capitalism by attacking the German ambassador is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. As if capitalism is a foreign imposition on Greece :confused:

Having recently spoken to a Greek comrade, I can tell you that many workers in Greece consider their current problems to be the result of EU, primarily German, imposition. That is the sort of false consciousness spread by quasi-revolutionaries to defuse any challenge to the local bourgeoisie.

preacherman
12th February 2014, 17:48
I think by anti-European they mean anti-EU.

tallguy
12th February 2014, 18:00
And if I didn't know better I would assume that these last few posts were all about minimising and dismissing direct action, notwithstanding it being weak, ineffective or, even, misplaced.

The more that ordinary, everyday people people hear of attacks on the state, the more they will be emboldened to act themselves. The more the state will be undermined, the more likely it will be for ordinary people find the strength to fully revolt en-mass. It'll be messy, contradictory, even counterproductive in the short term. But it is all necessary.

All of it.

La Guaneña
12th February 2014, 18:04
And if I didn't know better I would assume that these last few posts were all about minimising and dismissing direct action, notwithstanding it being weak, ineffective or, even, misplaced.

The more that ordinary, everyday people people hear of attacks on the state, the more they will be emboldened to act themselves. The more the state will be undermined, the more likely it will be for ordinary people find the strength to fully revolt en-mass. It'll be messy, contradictory, even counterproductive in the short term. But it is all necessary.

All of it.

This was an act of individual terrorism. If only, it makes the distance between the "ordinary, everyday people" and those who commits these acts larger.

Criminalize Heterosexuality
12th February 2014, 18:09
And if I didn't know better I would assume that these last few posts were all about minimising and dismissing direct action, notwithstanding it being weak, ineffective or, even, misplaced.

The more that ordinary, everyday people people hear of attacks on the state, the more they will be emboldened to act themselves. The more the state will be undermined, the more likely it will be for ordinary people find the strength to fully revolt en-mass. It'll be messy, contradictory, even counterproductive in the short term. But it is all necessary.

All of it.

First of all, this was an act of individual terrorism, as cde. La Guanea has already stated. You can't simply pick up a sub-machine gun and start the revolution by spraying bullets, no matter how cool that would be. Second, it was an act of individual terrorism against the representatives of the German state, not against capitalism as such. Anyone who thinks the only problem is the EU, or Germany - which is not to say that these are not problematic, of course - is liable to find themselves in bed with the native bourgeoisie. And that is a very non-proletarian bed to be in.

tallguy
12th February 2014, 18:13
The representatives of the German state, the Greek state the UK state etc are all representatives of the capitalist system. You don't seriously beleive these people are somehow democratic representatives of the people do you? What planet do you live on? cos it's not the same one I live on..

Criminalize Heterosexuality
12th February 2014, 18:15
The representatives of the German state, the Greek state the UK state etc are all representatives of the capitalist system. You don't seriously beleive these people are somehow democratic representatives of the people do you? What planet do you live on? cos it's not the same one I live on..

Ha, and where did I say that they represent "the German people", whatever that is? They represent the interest of the German state, the executive committee of the German bourgeoisie. The German bourgeoisie is part of the problem. But so is the Greek one. If someone wishes to attack the German bourgeoisie, by all means. But they should attack the Greek bourgeoisie as well, and not spread illusions about the current crisis being something the Greek bourgeoisie has nothing to do with.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
12th February 2014, 18:54
Their actions don't sound particularly effective right now, i'm presuming they're a new group that isn't particularly proficient at what they're trying to do, but at least they are trying to affect the situation in some way. I'm not sure that lobbing explosive/machine gun rounds at places where there are likely to be crowds of people, or shooting empty windows, is likely to do all that much to change the situation, though.

Sinister Cultural Marxist
12th February 2014, 19:05
The representatives of the German state, the Greek state the UK state etc are all representatives of the capitalist system. You don't seriously beleive these people are somehow democratic representatives of the people do you? What planet do you live on? cos it's not the same one I live on..

Yeah except that's not the issue - the problem is with a narrative rooted in nationalism whereby a German nation is somehow imposing the problems of Capitalism on Greece, and not that there is a global Capitalist system in which Germany is merely a hegemonic power.

If you want to see the shortcomings of this kind of narrative, look at where "Communist Cuba" is. It spent 50 years fighting the imposition of American Capital, and is now welcoming Brazilian, Chinese and Venezuelan Capital as an alternative. Yeah, American capitalism exploits labor, but so does the capitalism stemming from these other countries no matter how many socialist-sounding pronouncements their governments make.

Delenda Carthago
12th February 2014, 19:14
How are they even close to "far-left"? They have an anti-imp/nationalist speech that calls for "a liberation from bad Merkelists" and Anti-Mnemonioum bullshit. They are socialdemocrats with guns.

Trap Queen Voxxy
12th February 2014, 19:43
This was an act of individual terrorism. If only, it makes the distance between the "ordinary, everyday people" and those who commits these acts larger.

No it doesn't and neither is this view supported by contemporary psychology. Look into subjects such as conformity and group behavior. Not only this, look into the cultural history and championing of social bandits and rogues like Robin Hood or John Dillinger. Much to the disgrace of Hoover and his so called G-men, John Dillinger was a huge celebrity to the point of movies being made in his lifetime about his exploits which glamorized and sensationalized his life and work. I think this speaks volumes, really. Why ppl here are so quick to reject direct action I honestly will never know. Wtf.

Note I am speaking generally and not necessarily about he group in question or their alleged politics.

PhoenixAsh
12th February 2014, 20:52
The attack on Mercedes did take place btw. They discovered an unexploded rocket that overshot its target by 200 meters in some fields.

The group is tied to Nikos Maziotis who is wanted because he was part of the anarchist Arsonists of Conscience in the late 90's and Revolutionary Struggle some time ago. He is on the run for the cops.

The 20 page manifesto also hints at it being a leftist group...because long and complex manifesto's apparently are our fetish ;)

The attacks did have effect as the government did not expect foreign citizens to be targeted and feels thoroughly embarrassed. The attack is aimed at sorting a destabilizing effect on the international relations as it makes the Greek government look like it has no control and can't provide stability. So far the Greek government has regained trust of the international financial community because there are not so many violent protests and everything seems to have winded down to some parades and flag waving.

Germany was quick to condemn the attack and guaranteed that the "ties with Greece will not be broken"...which kind of says a lot.

vijaya
13th February 2014, 13:50
RT has called them an 'an extremist anarchist, anti-capitalist group'. The Popular Fighters have said Germany have turned Greece into 'a new kind of protectorate'.

http://rt.com/news/greece-germany-leftist-group-866/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

ckaihatsu
14th February 2014, 21:58
Extremist Greek group vows attacks on German firms, blaming Berlin for crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Jti-Rz7yU

SHORAS
14th February 2014, 22:39
If this shit is real they are a bunch of twats.

Ocean Seal
14th February 2014, 23:25
Attacking capitalism by attacking the German ambassador is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. As if capitalism is a foreign imposition on Greece :confused:
Yeah as if a bourgeois diplomat is not part of an international capitalist system.

Prometeo liberado
15th February 2014, 01:43
Not to be off topic but how far "left" do you gotta be to e considered "far left". Where's that line?

WilliamGreen
15th February 2014, 03:14
Yeah as if a bourgeois diplomat is not part of an international capitalist system.

Thanks Ocean Seal for a good post.

You would think no one that posted here has heard about propaganda or about powerful nations exploiting and experimenting with smaller more susceptible countries/economics.

Things aren't as black and white as a lot of people are making the situation out to be.

To be honest I would call a lot of the posts on here the true counter-revolution.

*Someone that works with comrades from Greece and has been there and partaken* 'Nough said.

WilliamGreen
15th February 2014, 03:17
Additionally I would say for people that associate as revolutionary in tendency or in wanting a different world.

You need to get out there. You need to partake. And you need to see with your own eyes, etc.

That way you can go on more than how people claim a thing is in articles from either supporting sources or those that take away.

The revolution is going to be dirty and it's not going to be black and white.

We need intellects and dogma but in it's place. Remember everything has it's limitations and for the more post is just a utility.

Open minds.

WilliamGreen
15th February 2014, 03:25
Yeah except that's not the issue - the problem is with a narrative rooted in nationalism whereby a German nation is somehow imposing the problems of Capitalism on Greece, and not that there is a global Capitalist system in which Germany is merely a hegemonic power.

If you want to see the shortcomings of this kind of narrative, look at where "Communist Cuba" is. It spent 50 years fighting the imposition of American Capital, and is now welcoming Brazilian, Chinese and Venezuelan Capital as an alternative. Yeah, American capitalism exploits labor, but so does the capitalism stemming from these other countries no matter how many socialist-sounding pronouncements their governments make.

I want to say additionally posts like this where actually a good caution for revolutionaries. ;)

Good analysis SCM

Red Hornet
15th February 2014, 05:30
What a waste of ammo, should've sprayed bullets at a crowd of Golden Dawn members instead