castro's death

[mia wallace]

i'm wondering what will happen with cuba after castro's death?? :blink:
i would like to hear some of your thoughts and ideas...

[革命者]

Well i am suprised no-one asked that one before on a big socialist message board as this. Uhhhmm.... ;)

Do all of us a big favour and do a search in all forums, with, say, "castro" and "dead" as keywords.

Thanks a bundle!

[mia wallace]

sorry :rolleyes:

[Knowledge 6 6 6]

Castro's bro Raul would take power, and he is said to be worse than Castro...

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[toastedmonkey]

Originally posted by Knowledge 6 6 [email protected] 24 2004, 11:06 PM
Castro's bro Raul would take power, and he is said to be worse than Castro...
Worse as in hes more violent.
Raul being automatically appointed could give the U$A enough fuel to start war/"liberation" of Cuba.

Cuba will strugle to succeed againest Yankee Imperialism on that scale again.

Most of the "communists" will sat back and say 'ohwell', its always easier to help from home of course.

[Knowledge 6 6 6]

i wouldnt be surprised if America launches a war on Cuba after Castro. Like I've said before in a different post, America realised they can live with Castro as opposed to Guevara. Hence, they eliminated him...

If Raul is worse (which he probably is, in terms of violence) America will definitely feel threatened.

The only way Castro will ever get out of power in Cuba is when he dies. He's really old, he's been in power since the late 50's i believe.

[Jesus Sanchez]

I don't beleive the U.$ will attack Cuba during this War on Terror. Not while cuba has got Camp X-Ray and all of America's terror susspects.

[Le Libérer]

Castro is still a robust man, just a little slower these days. Vivia la Castro! I hope he lives another 20 years. WIth Cuba having the best medical system in the world, he may just do that!

Signed:
PollyAnna

[Fidelbrand]

Originally posted by Debora [email protected] 25 2004, 02:30 PM
Castro is still a robust man, just a little slower these days. Vivia la Castro! I hope he lives another 20 years. WIth Cuba having the best medical system in the world, he may just do that!

Signed:
PollyAnna
well said, companera~

btw, Raul is the only 100% voted option, no one else~ :)

[Ortega]

I interviewed a man for my yearlong school project on Che Guevara not too long ago. He had spent a lot of time talking to Fidel Castro - 9 hours straight one night, and he was a former US Congressman and head of the Committee on Latin America, so he knew a lot about America's plans and actions (he had been very opposed to US interventions the Bay of Pigs, Grenada, and Nicaragua). He's retired now, but he runs an international consulting firm (and visited North Korea recently) so he still knows very much about world affairs.
But anyway, for one of my questions, I asked him what he thought would happen in Cuba after the death of Castro. He said that that was the "$64,000 dollar question" in Washington. The current administration, he said, and most every one since the 60s, was very committed to bringing "peace and democracy" to Cuba by any means possible. The impression I got from the interview was that if there is one man Washington hates more than Fidel Castro, it's Raul. The United States has plans, or has had plans, to establish a "democracy" in Cuba. Under Fidel, it's far too risky, but without Fidel, the US would be taking care of two things - Raul and Socialist Cuba.
The United States undoubtedly has plans for Cuba, the interview most certainly reassured me of that. After Fidel's death, I don't think that the future of Cuba will look very good...

at least not for a while.

[dopediana]

wow. that's pretty fascinating. can you send me his name and possibly email address in a PM?

[Ortega]

Sure

[The Feral Underclass]

The same thing that has happened to every Marxist-Leninist country that has lost it's icon. Capitalism!

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

What is this doing in a Philosophy forum?

[mia wallace]

you're right - i should have put it in politics forum, but i've put it in the philosophy cause it didn't happen yet, so u can philosophize about this subject. i know it sounds really stupid if u put it like this... sorry :P

[Fidelbrand]

Ortega, did the U.S. gentleman said any thing particular about Fidel's personality or ..... i don't know... just want to know what he said about Fidel.

Thanks!

[Ortega]

He was very complimentary about Fidel Castro as a person:

"...I would say that he is probably the most charismatic political figure I’ve ever met personally... ...He's extremely intelligent, extremely articulate, very dynamic and quite engaging actually... ...meeting him personally for the first time, I was quite impressed."

I only have half of the interview on this computer, and thats all that he said about him in the page or so I have. I'll post some more if I find anything else good in the other part.

It's very interesting what he had to say about one of the questions he asked Che in 1964 as a student of Marxism and a journalist, so I might as well post that here (keep in mind that I and he added some things to make it more understandable to those not familiar with Communism):

"...I asked him when he thought the state would wither away in Cuba. The reason I put it exactly in those words was that in the Communist Manifesto Karl Marx and Frederich Engels wrote it that under [perfect] Communism, the state would ‘wither away’. And of course Castro and Guevara had proclaimed the Cuban Revolution a Communist revolution, so according to Communist theory the state should wither away, but of course in reality in no Communist society or country has the state ever withered away. In fact, the state becomes stronger than it was before. So that was, in effect, I was… uh… needling him... ...His response was “I can’t answer that question because I’m not a professor of the subject.” Which was a cute and artful way of basically dodging the question..."

[Mick Black]

I'm not an expert on Cuba by any means but one of my comrades just returned from a short 2 week visit to the island and from talking to average cubans the strongest underground opposition movement is a social-democratic one headed by the son of a revolutionary leader (sorry I don't remember which one).

Based on his conversations with cubans he thinks the mostly likey event after Castro dies will be that the underground opposition movements will become public and take power ushering in a social-democratic capitalism and poltical system.

The popular support for the Cuban Communist party is weak, and it relys on a massive police force to maintain power.

That said, he still thinks Castro's death will be a wild-card where anything can happen.

[Agent provocateur]

In my opinion when Dr. Castro dies power should be assumed by a younger leader like Dr. Carlos Lage then the U.S. and the exiled enemy will know that Lagos will be there a long time. Maybe then the embargo might be lifted.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9901/01/...cuba.what.next/ (http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9901/01/cuba.what.next/)

[Anarchist Freedom]

only one thing other then castros death worries me.... Is the Amerika desecrating ches grave and completely just spewing bullshit about che guevara....



:che:



CGLM! (http://www.cglm.tk)

[communist_comrade]

hey comrades,

could you also send me that guy's e-mail address ...and my opinion after castro dies is that america might go into power but do you all agree that cuba is currently a crappy country?

[JonP]

It kinda sucks , as imho it isnt a socialist country at all. However it has free good medical care e.t.c and has the lowest infant mortality rates in the area (e.t.c.)