View Full Version : Has someone ever started a site to out serial online woman abusers?
Kazu
6th February 2014, 15:57
Since trolling women online is a huge problem, to the point that many women fear going online.
I am wondering if there is a site to expose them. I have the personal information of quite a few, and I'd start one if none exists.
TheSocialistMetalhead
6th February 2014, 22:56
Well, you can add the entirety of 4chan to your list...
Seriously though, do you really think this is a good idea.
Stigmatizing people, even if they did do something wrong, is generally not the best way of going about these things.
This reminds me of the websites exposing sex offenders. That kind of sites intrinsically encourages vigilante justice and drives the people whose privacy has been violated into a corner. I know that's not really an existing risk online but still, you should be careful.
Rosa Partizan
6th February 2014, 23:01
I'm really ambiguous about that...one the one hand, yeah, it would be great to have those people exposed and having them living in some kind of fear of the public reaction...on the other hand, there are things that can go wrong and ruin lives, i.e. someone looks like an offender, has the same name, some woman puts her ex-boyfriend or husband on that as a sick kind of revenge....I know that wrong accusations are seldom when it comes to sexual harassment and rape. Still, it can happen. So, I'm quite unsure about it. This idea has a lot of appeal to me, but also some massive disadvantages.
tallguy
7th February 2014, 00:35
....I know that wrong accusations are seldom when it comes to sexual harassment and rape. Still, it can happen....
How do you know they are seldom? I'm not suggesting they are common, by the way, since I do not know. But, equally, how do you know they are rare?
Reticential
7th February 2014, 00:35
I feel like the issue here has been muddled up...Surely working with women to make them feel more comfortable online or better equip people to deal with harassment is a better way of going about it? As effective as communications blockades can be, I'm not sure this would be the best way to effect change in this case. Loosely from the other end of the spectrum, I don't think Redwatch gets a lot of traffic. Perhaps effort/resources would be better spent on victims/survivors.
Diirez
7th February 2014, 01:11
Well if you want a website to out women abusers then you should just make the website to out abusers in general, both male and female.
Rosa Partizan
7th February 2014, 06:33
How do you know they are seldom? I'm not suggesting they are common, by the way, since I do not know. But, equally, how do you know they are rare?
there have been conducted several studies about that, here's an english-speaking source.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/13/false-allegations-rape-domestic-violence-rare
It's pretty logical to me. Women reporting rape are often treated like scum by the police and their environment. Here in Germany, we had some "seroius" talk show about it (no Jerry Springer-shit), a former police governor was there, someone who was really big and successfull in his job. He was like, I know the methods. If I had a raped daughter, I would advice her not to report. Nuff said.
Vladimir Innit Lenin
7th February 2014, 08:48
This is a really terrible idea.
Tim Cornelis
7th February 2014, 10:15
I don't really see the point. If it works well you have a site full of millions of men charged with calling women derogatory terms, which people will shrug off as unimportant.
Kazu
12th February 2014, 16:01
How about just identifying problematic sites then?
tallguy
12th February 2014, 16:30
there have been conducted several studies about that, here's an english-speaking source.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/13/false-allegations-rape-domestic-violence-rare
It's pretty logical to me. Women reporting rape are often treated like scum by the police and their environment. Here in Germany, we had some "seroius" talk show about it (no Jerry Springer-shit), a former police governor was there, someone who was really big and successfull in his job. He was like, I know the methods. If I had a raped daughter, I would advice her not to report. Nuff said.
No, not "nuff said", I'm afraid.
Despite claiming there are numerous studies, you've only actually quoted one study and so that is the one I will comment on based upon the Guardian newspaper article. In that study, the argument made for the rate of false accusations is based on the number of prosecutions made against people for making such false accusations. However, no attempt is made (or, at least, none that is indicated in the Guardian article) to include unsuccessful prosecutions of rape. An unknown proportion of whom will have failed due to false accusations leading to a weak claim. In other words, the conclusion of that study is flawed since it is based on almost certainly incomplete data.
I should reiterate here, for the sake of clarity, since it seems to be common practice on here to lay false accusations at posters who do not instinctively toe a particular line (not that you have done this, I should add), that I am making no claim as to the actual number of false accusations that may be made. I am simply suggesting to you that you have yet to provide any serious evidence that stands up to serious scrutiny that shows the number of false accusations is rare since the conclusion of the one study you have linked to is significantly flawed for the reasons given.
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