Montenegro church depicts Tito, Marx and Engels in hell

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Montenegro church depicts Tito, Marx and Engels in hell

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72688000/jpg/_72688961_hi020858675.jpg Tito, Marx and Engels are pictured in a sea of fire with diabolical beasts
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A church in Montenegro has sparked controversy by displaying a fresco depicting Yugoslav communist leader Josip Broz Tito in the fires of hell with Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.
The newly built Church of Resurrection in the capital Podgorica has already drawn criticism for its lavish design.
Critics now say the church should not be interfering in politics.
Works by philosophers Marx and Engels were required reading when Montenegro was part of communist Yugoslavia.
One church leader, named only as Dragan, told the Agence France-Presse news agency that Marx, Engels and Tito "personify communist evil in the Balkans" and the artist should be "allowed the freedom to see things as he wishes".
However, he added: "He cannot judge, in the name of the Church, who belongs in hell or heaven."
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72688000/jpg/_72688944_hi020858697.jpg The Church of Resurrection in Podgorica has also been criticised for its lavish design.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72688000/jpg/_72688942_hi020858657.jpg Tito is shown in his military uniform next to Marx and Engels
The fresco painter remains anonymous.
Visitors to the church were divided over whether the fresco should remain.
"The Church should not interfere in the secular world and determine who deserves a place in hell or heaven," said lawyer Rade Stankovic.
But another visitor, named only as Milos, said communism had caused "so much evil".
"Many people were killed in the name of the ideology promoted by Marx, Engels and their followers," he said.
The church is not the only religious building in Montenegro to depict figures from 20th Century history on its walls.
A monastery in Ostrog shows Hitler, Lenin and Tito together with Judas, who betrayed Jesus.



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[Sinister Intents]

That should get torn the fuck down, but if we're all going to Hell at least we'll be in good company with the likes of Marx and Engels! Other great humans I'd assume would be there. Too bad I don't believe in Hell, I do however believe in a kind of afterlife.

Destroy all churches! Burn them down, to the ground!

[Rosa Partizan]

Leave them alone you bastards! Tito :wub:

[The Jay]

I think it is pretty funny. It should stay there forever so that my political enemies can have a place to complain and leave me alone.

[motion denied]

Let the ruling classes tremble at a Hellish-Communistic revolution

[Sinister Intents]

Let the ruling classes tremble at a Hellish-Communistic revolution

I'd like to further make them tremble by burning their places of worship.

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Well at least one of them belongs there

[Atsumari]

We come from an ideology that has burned churches and we did everything in our power to limit or destroy the political power of the church. Is it a surprise that our enemies would do something like this?

[Criminalize Heterosexuality]

They all look very, very bored.

[Sinister Intents]

They all look very, very bored.

That's because Hell is boring :rolleyes: I've been there many a time

[argeiphontes]

Whenever you burn a church or destroy a religion, those people flock directly to the revolution.

[Sasha]

a specter is haunting hell...

[dodger]

Is that Saint Harpal Brar? Probably..a pure and blameless record in the British Working Class movement. He has given us his only begotten son as next chairman of his party.The Pharisees even arrested him outside the Israeli Embassy. The centurian remarked as he was dragged off "For surely HE was the son of Harpal!"

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

That's because Hell is boring :rolleyes: I've been there many a time

Can't be worse than heaven, I hear it's full of god-fearing child-beating gay-bashing rapist nutters burning dead animals, for the scent of burning flesh so pleases the Lord.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

I think it's pretty hilarious myself.

[The Jay]

a specter is haunting hell...

The specter of Nightmare Marx, holder of the headstone and demon-cleaver longsword.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

The specter of Nightmare Marx, holder of the headstone and demon-cleaver longsword.

I smell a comic book franchise!!:grin:

[The Jay]

I smell a comic book franchise!!:grin:

I'll get right on it.

[Criminalize Heterosexuality]

I smell a comic book franchise!!:grin:

Bishounen Yasha Karuru M.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Bishounen Yasha Karuru M.

Marukusu x Engerusu OTP.

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

Nah, Marx and Engels are just hella metal is all. They got bored of all the harpsichords in heaven.

Really, I like the neutral yet somewhat contemplative expression on their faces. it's like they're not at all miserable, they're just busy thinking "What are the material conditions that keep the demons oppressing all of these souls?"

[DOOM]

Well at least one of them belongs there

Oh please. I almost cut myself on this edge
Long live the emperor
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[Rosa Partizan]

This is the best post I've seen in quite a while.

[Criminalize Heterosexuality]

Mutation and heresy!

[DOOM]

Purge the unclean!

[Comrade Jacob]

Well, at least they don't look in the slightest bit of pain.

[Sinister Intents]

Well, at least they don't look in the slightest bit of pain.

They're basking in the warm fire, they're contemplating how to raise consciousness among demons. They must use the damned and demons to over through Satan and destroy the bourgeois kingdom on heaven then flood the earth!

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

I'm pretty sure that that's supposed to be Lenin and Stalin directly behind them (the bald head is a dead giveaway).

[Rafiq]

A true communist does not go to the enemy's hell, but brings forth hell upon the enemy.

[Bala Perdida]

The grey hair kind of make me think it's Mao.

[Sabot Cat]

I'm more curious about the people in the religious robes in the mouth of what I presume to be a Behemoth of some sort. Are they making a dig at another sect of Christianity, and if so, which?

[Sinister Intents]

I'm more curious about the people in the religious robes in the mouth of what I presume to be a Behemoth of some sort. Are they making a dig at another sect of Christianity, and if so, which?

Catholicism??? No.... ummmm.... what kind of church, what sect?

[Sam_b]

Destroy all churches! Burn them down, to the ground!

What a ridiculous, counter-productive position to take.

[Sinister Intents]

What a ridiculous, counter-productive position to take.

I see, I'll take your word for it, but why you say so?

[The Jay]

I see, I'll take your word for it, but why you say so?

It would alienate many from the struggle; besides, some of them have pretty paintings and art. The best thing to do would be to turn them into museums or something when they are no longer being used for religious reasons.

[Sabot Cat]

The grey hair kind of make me think it's Mao.

Yeah, I think the two people behind them are Mao and Stalin judging by the hair styles and colors.

[reb]

Well at least one of them belongs there

Engels?

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Engels?
hahaha

I was referring to tito.

[Sam_b]

I see, I'll take your word for it, but why you say so?

Errr....because not only are many churches historically and architecturally significant but that people should be able to practice their religion if they please?

Talking about burning churches is nothing more than 'rah-rah fight the power' showiness that belies a fundamental misunderstanding of what we should be fighting for.

[Diirez]

Who the hell would put Tito in hell?

But anyways, I can't buy into this. Are they trying to convince us that Marx, Engels, Guevera, Trotsky, Lenin and all the other great revolutionaries are in hell and the Devil hasn't succeeded in overthrowing God? Let's be real now, if Satan had the powers of the revolutionaries then he would easily be able to form the revolution. So we can conclude that A: Hell doesn't exist
OR
B: They are all in heaven.

[The Jay]

Who the hell would put Tito in hell?

But anyways, I can't buy into this. Are they trying to convince us that Marx, Engels, Guevera, Trotsky, Lenin and all the other great revolutionaries are in hell and the Devil hasn't succeeded in overthrowing God? Let's be real now, if Satan had the powers of the revolutionaries then he would easily be able to form the revolution. So we can conclude that A: Hell doesn't exist
OR
B: They are all in heaven.

Not really, that is a false dichotomy. They could actually have conquered Heaven and chose to labor in Hell so that they would not lose humility.

[Skyhilist]

I'd consider it an honor to be put in hell in a church painting personally but whatever.

[E-Shock Executioner]

"Tito it's been atleast 2 hours, where's the goddamn Starbucks you promised us?

"Listen I took a little sip of vodka on the way here, give me a break master-beard"

"Is it just me karl, or is this coffee just TO HOT!"

"This is why no one ever uses your jokes as quotes, Fred."

[Sea]

They all look very, very bored.
Fred has testicles on his beard. How is that bored?

[Sir Comradical]

They look quite blase about it.

[Ceallach_the_Witch]

They look quite blase about it.

hah, i was about to mention that. I suppose Hell is probably not dissimilar to certain parts of 19th century London tbh

[bropasaran]

they're just busy thinking "What are the material conditions that keep the demons oppressing all of these souls?"
They're the nomenklatura.


Who the hell would put Tito in hell?

But anyways, I can't buy into this. Are they trying to convince us that Marx, Engels, Guevera, Trotsky, Lenin and all the other great revolutionaries are in hell and the Devil hasn't succeeded in overthrowing God? Let's be real now, if Satan had the powers of the revolutionaries then he would easily be able to form the revolution. So we can conclude that A: Hell doesn't exist
OR
B: They are all in heaven.
C: They're in hell and Proudhon, Bakunin and Makhno are looking at them from heaven.

[Crabbensmasher]

So Hell includes Marx, Engels, AND Heavy Metal? it's better than I could have ever thought

[DasFapital]

The party doesn't start until Grover Furr and Harpal Brar arrive to accuse Tito of being a crypto-Trot.