Christian Trotskyism?

[Malesori]

I saw there is a facebook group for "Christian Trotskyism". This is a movement Ive never heard of. Does anyone know its history or ideology?

[Sinister Intents]

I've never heard of this as well, but I'd assume it relates to Christian Communism. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism) Sorry if this doesn't help... So this will be good to learn from

[Hit The North]

Do they have a theory of permanent salvation?

[Sinister Intents]

Do they have a theory of permanent salvation?

Lol, is it alright to post links to facebook since he says its a facebook group? I can't find the group via google search so nvm

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

/jive Crow accent

"Did you ever see a Christian Trot
Well I seen a Russian Trot
I seen a Sectarian Trot
I seen an Anarcho-Trot

I seen all that too
I seen a peanut stand
And heard a rubber band
I seen a needle that winked its eye

But I've been, done, seen about everything
When I see a Christian Trot
What'd you say boy
I said when I see a Christian Trot"

I guess I've seen less conventional ideological mashups than that, though it is definitely unusual.

[Malesori]

here is the link for it

https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/682540405131050/

[Halert]

Read the group description and you know what they are about. They are Christians who also happen to be Trotskyists. Christian Trotskyism is not some kind of wierd movement or tendency. There are several communists who are also Christians so it's not strange to also see Trotskyists among them

[Criminalize Heterosexuality]

Well, the obtuse "morality" pushed by the likes of Healy and Grant is more than compatible with Christianity. Of course, "Christian Trotskyism" is nonsense, since it implies that a branch of Marxist socialism is compatible with political religion.

[RedHal]

Read the group description and you know what they are about. They are Christians who also happen to be Trotskyists. Christian Trotskyism is not some kind of wierd movement or tendency. There are several communists who are also Christians so it's not strange to also see Trotskyists among them

If they are Trots, who happen to be Christians, they are just trots, but to call themselves Christian Trots, they must have some new superduper theory which incorporates Christianity into Trotskyism which sounds like nonsense. Someone should PS trotsky's face onto a crucifix

[Criminalize Heterosexuality]

If they are Trots, who happen to be Christians, they are just trots, but to call themselves Christian Trots, they must have some new superduper theory which incorporates Christianity into Trotskyism which sounds like nonsense. Someone should PS trotsky's face onto a crucifix

Trotsky crucified on a giant ice-axe.

Of course, I think he would have preferred that to "Christian Trotskyism", given the absolute, unbridled scorn which he pours on political Christianity in "Their Morals and Ours" (now there is a work that is about as compatible with the Bible as the Bible is compatible with modernity) and other works. Of course, if alleged Trotskyists could support Iran's clerical "revolutionaries" and the Mujahedin, perhaps they would be more than comfortable with "Christian Trotskyists".

edit: Of course, most of these alleged Trotskyists also supported the Polish clerical Solidarity, but not even the most idealistic would think of proclaiming Solidarity to be Trotskyist.

[Anti-Traditional]

I would imagine that whoever started the group was both a Christian and a Communist and felt some angst at the idea that both camps consider Christianity and Communism to be irreconcilable, thus the name is a reaction to this.

[Prometeo liberado]

I was a Muslim-leninist when they put out their early stuff. But now it's just all hipsters and about the money.

[CrveniTalas]

With the Trotskyists anything is possible, except seizing power, of course.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Trotskyism is very similar to religion so I can't say it is very surprising. All joking aside, yes there are religious people who consider themselves communists/socialists/marxists whatever. Obviously some kind of egalitarianism can be found somewhere in most religions which is usually where this identification with communism comes from. Obviously you don't have to read much Marx to see how incompatible it is with religion.

These threads about such groups pop up every now and then and basically every time it comes down to everyone agreeing they are dumb. I don't suspect "christian trotskyists" will be much different.