Are you a punk?

[E-Shock Executioner]

As you know, revleft has a lot of "intelleciual" types of people

Is anyone here, a dumb, Mohawk, leather jacket, prone to violence aginst upper-class asshole, gunslinging, badass, far leftist, who doesn't want to talk in books smart shit, but rather put a bullet hole in bill gates?

Sort of like the psychos from the video-game "borderlands"

Cuz, you know, these are my type of people

[Art Vandelay]

I'm so punk, I don't fit into the stereotype of what constitutes a punk. Word.

[E-Shock Executioner]

I'm so punk, I don't fit into the stereotype of what constitutes a punk. Word.

How so?

[Sinister Intents]

As you know, revleft has a lot of "intelleciual" types of people

Is anyone here, a dumb, Mohawk, leather jacket, prone to violence aginst upper-class asshole, gunslinging, badass, far leftist, who doesn't want to talk in books smart shit, but rather put a bullet hole in bill gates?

Cuz, you know, these are my type of people

I take influence from punk in how I dress. I am indeed prone to violence against upper classers, I carry weapons on me, I'm a far leftist, so yeah I guess I partially fit. I'm a Goth metalhead comrade. What's the point of this??

edit: This!!

I'm so punk, I don't fit into the stereotype of what constitutes a punk. Word.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

Totes. I sleep in steel-toed boots, head butt my way through picket fences, bite little chunks of metal from beer cans that I then throw at passing cop cars, wipe my ass with the pages of Das Capital Volume III and I've got a mohawk so awesome it punches clergymen in the face for breakfast.

[E-Shock Executioner]

I take influence from punk in how I dress. I am indeed prone to violence against upper classers, I carry weapons on me, I'm a far leftist, so yeah I guess I partially fit. I'm a Goth metalhead comrade. What's the point of this??

edit: This!!

To collect data on revleft users.

[Sinister Intents]

To collect data on revleft users.

Are you a marketer?
What are you gonna do with this data?
What if I have a problem with this?

[Art Vandelay]

How so?

Fuck off.

e: Cause I'm so punk and all that jazz.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

I'm so punk I shit safety pins

[E-Shock Executioner]

Are you a marketer?
What are you gonna do with this data?
What if I have a problem with this?

It is essentially to see people I can talk to who in typical punk language like:

"Yo brother, some fucker rich ass ***** dried up on second avenue, pop him?"

"Yeah, I smash his *****-ass brains all over the floor"

Instead of hearing:

"Aye, it seems through a barbaric upper class citizen has strolled in!"

"Good Scott!, let us set up a rally of opposition!"

[E-Shock Executioner]

Fuck off.

e: Cause I'm so punk and all that jazz.

Watch out guys.

We got a badass over here!

[Sinister Intents]

It is essentially to see people I can talk to who in typical punk language like:

"Yo brother, some fucker rich ass ***** dried up on second avenue, pop him?"

"Yeah, I smash his *****-ass brains all over the floor"

Instead of hearing:

"Aye, it seems through a barbaric upper class citizen has strolled in!"

"Good Scott!, let us set up a rally of opposition!"

Why the fuck does there need to be a specific punk language????
Why not talk the way you usually talk, and who cares about how other people fucking talk. Also punks don't use sexist fucking language lik B***h asshole. Fuck OFF.

[E-Shock Executioner]

no no no

i mean just vulgar language

[Yuppie Grinder]

i'm not really into playing dress up but i love punk and hardcore music ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Art Vandelay]

Watch out guys.

We got a badass over here!

You know it.

[Sinister Intents]

no no no

i mean just vulgar language

As far as I'm concerned you do not vulgar language to be a punk.

[Skyhilist]

leather jacket

Can I be a vegan punk? Or am I venturing too far outside of the stereotype if I don't buy a leather jacket?

[E-Shock Executioner]

As far as I'm concerned you do not vulgar language to be a punk.

Vulgar speech is a important part of it, dress and style and music is de facto of what "defines a punk"

[Yuppie Grinder]

punk rock can be very sexist
a lot of non-punk type people seem to think that g.g. allin was the king of the punks for some reason, and that guy was a convicted sex offender and bragged about it
it can have nice things to say as well

[E-Shock Executioner]

Can I be a vegan punk? Or am I venturing too far outside of the stereotype if I don't buy a leather jacket?

Naw, general black will work to, but a sort of coat over a shirt is advised for badassocity.

[Skyhilist]

It is essentially to see people I can talk to who in typical punk language like:

"Yo brother, some fucker rich ass ***** dried up on second avenue, pop him?"

"Yeah, I smash his *****-ass brains all over the floor"

Instead of hearing:

"Aye, it seems through a barbaric upper class citizen has strolled in!"

"Good Scott!, let us set up a rally of opposition!"

Haha what even if that's a real survey I don't think you know anything about language or statistics or the way that surveys are supposed to work.

[E-Shock Executioner]

punk rock can be very sexist
a lot of non-punk type people seem to think that g.g. allin was the king of the punks for some reason, and that guy was a convicted sex offender and bragged about it
it can have nice things to say as well

Being a sex offender ain't sexism, it's just rape

Go on about gender superiority, yeah, that's sexist.

[Sinister Intents]

Vulgar speech is a important part of it, dress and style and music is de facto of what "defines a punk"

I partially fit that, but I'm a goth and metalhead as well and my style represents alll three equally

[Yuppie Grinder]

Can I be a vegan punk? Or am I venturing too far outside of the stereotype if I don't buy a leather jacket?

veganism is a big thing in punk and hardcore

[Yuppie Grinder]

Being a sex offender ain't sexism, it's just rape

Go on about gender superiority, yeah, that's sexist.

Ummm, if a man actually advocates the act of rape I'm pretty sure he's a sexist. G.G. Allin was a lot of horrible things, including a sexist.

[Skyhilist]

Naw, general black will work to, but a sort of coat over a shirt is advised for badassocity.

Damn I guess my favorite punk bands like Propagandhi aren't punks after all. Shit, even Ian MacKaye is no longer a punk apparently even though his band pretty much founded the straight-edge punk movement.

[Skyhilist]

veganism is a big thing in punk and hardcore

Yes I know I was being sarcastic because I found the stereotype for "a punk" put out by the OP to be stupid. My sarcasm doesn't always translate well over the internet.

[E-Shock Executioner]

Ummm, if a man actually advocates the act of rape I'm pretty sure he's a sexist. G.G. Allin was a lot of horrible things, including a sexist.

Did he say men were superior to women, or vice versa?

[blake 3:17]

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 DsKsN5cj9ehs&start1=0&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D gnWKhq8l_5c&start2=0&authorName=snoopsagan

[#FF0000]

Did he say men were superior to women, or vice versa?

yo i don't think it takes a whole lot to extrapolate gg allin's view of women lmao

[Yuppie Grinder]

Did he say men were superior to women, or vice versa?

Just read his wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.G._Allin
Better yet, read a book or watch a film about G.G.
The guy was a piece of shit but he had one of the most interesting lives of any musician.

[E-Shock Executioner]

Why the fuck does there need to be a specific punk language????
Why not talk the way you usually talk, and who cares about how other people fucking talk. Also punks don't use sexist fucking language lik B***h asshole. Fuck OFF.

The B word has sort of lost the whole "female dog" connotation, sort of like the word gay


It more or less means a filthy urban dweller or filthy servant in today's vulgar languages, with both men and women being called one.

[Yuppie Grinder]

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 DsKsN5cj9ehs&start1=0&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D gnWKhq8l_5c&start2=0&authorName=snoopsagan

wow i hadn't noticed how similar the intros to those songs were

[blake 3:17]

Can I be a vegan punk? Or am I venturing too far outside of the stereotype if I don't buy a leather jacket?

all vegans are punx

my first boyfriend tried to give me his leather jacket cuz he was a vegan punk

i just dress like a kurt cobain lesbian for everything in life my big fashion move was starting to wear baseball hats in my 30s

[Sinister Intents]

The B word has sort of lost the whole "female dog" connotation, sort of like the word gay


It more or less means a filthy urban dweller or filthy servant in today's vulgar languages, with both men and women being called one.

I still consider it very sexist, afterall when used on a women its essentially calling her a dog, used on a guy that's like saying he's like a women and a dog to me. I see it as sexist. The B word is mysogynistic language. Link (http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/feminism-friday-on-*****-and-other-misogynist-language/)

[blake 3:17]

fuck GG Allin! he had nothing to do with punk

Edited to add: Or maybe he did -- but on the creepiest worst edges

[#FF0000]

The B word has sort of lost the whole "female dog" connotation, sort of like the word gay

haha i dunno if you're the one who gets to make the decision as to what connotations words have tho

[E-Shock Executioner]

I still consider it very sexist, afterall when used on a women its essentially calling her a dog, used on a guy that's like saying he's like a women and a dog to me. I see it as sexist. The B word is mysogynistic language.

Hmm.

Welp I guess your right.

Congrats on educating on me.

[Yuppie Grinder]

yo can we all agree punk is the best kind of rock music tho

[E-Shock Executioner]

Asblouty, it changed the intire way people look at rock and roll.

[blake 3:17]

It's a shame he gets attention when a great artist like Jad Fair is ignored.

[Yuppie Grinder]

I actually think G.G. Allin has some pretty good records, but I'm able to judge someones art and their personal character separately.

[G4b3n]

The B word has sort of lost the whole "female dog" connotation, sort of like the word gay


It more or less means a filthy urban dweller or filthy servant in today's vulgar languages, with both men and women being called one.

The word has not lost any of its sexist connotations. When men are referred to as a *****, it is normally because they are displaying feminine traits, which is socially undesirable as a man is supposed to show assertiveness and masculinity.

Women are generally referred to as a ***** when they show assertiveness or other masculine qualities, the word is essentially telling them that they need to stay in their place.

[Sinister Intents]

Does grindcore and powerviolence count as punk? listen to that a lot as well as older punk, but I predominantly listen to death and black metal

[Yuppie Grinder]

Does grindcore and powerviolence count as punk? listen to that a lot as well as older punk, but I predominantly listen to death and black metal

powerviolence is a style of hardcore punk, yea, emphasis on the punk part
grindcore is sort of hardcore and sort of extreme metal
records like these paved the way for both:
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[Manic Impressive]

why is this in politics?

I voted no btw

[E-Shock Executioner]

why is this in politics?

I voted no btw

Where the hell else would it go in


Also booksmart no gud, more shoot and kill.

[Art Vandelay]

Since people are talking about GG Allin (and yes he was a sexist scumbag, doesn't mean he didn't make some cool tunes), just gonna leave this here. My favorite recording, of my favorite song that he wrote. Ironically enough, it helped to get me through some tough times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syHsZ198DtM

Anyways, this should probably be moved to the music subforum, didn't realize I was making such shite posts in the politics section.

[Sinister Intents]

why is this in politics?

I voted no btw

Should be moved to music or non political, or maybe practice and propaganda? probably music

[E-Shock Executioner]

The word has not lost any of its sexist connotations. When men are referred to as a *****, it is normally because they are displaying feminine traits, which is socially undesirable as a man is supposed to show assertiveness and masculinity.

Women are generally referred to as a ***** when they show assertiveness or other masculine qualities, the word is essentially telling them that they need to stay in their place.

I already said I was wrong, no need to further prove it.

[bcbm]

i listen to punk and goto punk shows but i dress like a ralph lauren polo ad

and moved to non political

[Marshal of the People]

but rather put a bullet hole in bill gates?Why do you want to kill Bill Gates? He certainly isn't the worst.

[Yuppie Grinder]

i went through a very brief period where i thought nice clothes were cool but then i realized they cost a lot of money and i went back to shopping at the salvation army
i'm glad i never actually bought expensive clothes or anything, that would have killed my ***punk credibility***

[Marshal of the People]

I am most definitely not a punk. I'm practically an angel.

[Art Vandelay]

I honestly don't know if I've ever actually bought clothes. My mother/family bought me them growing up and since I graduated high school I had a girlfriend (until recently) who occasionally bought me clothes. Always just worn jeans and t-shirt and I still fit most t-shirts I wore in high school.

Anyways punk shows are the best shows, but I think punk subculture is pretty lame to be honest. I guess subcultures are in general though.

[Sinister Intents]

Why do you want to kill Bill Gates? He certainly isn't the worst.


I am most definitely not a punk. I'm practically an angel.

Bill Gates is a capitalist and we'll cap the capitalists :)

Angel? What is this Angel you speak ov? Angels are ov God, I am ov Satan.

[bcbm]

i went through a very brief period where i thought nice clothes were cool but then i realized they cost a lot of money and i went back to shopping at the salvation army
i'm glad i never actually bought expensive clothes or anything, that would have killed my ***punk credibility***

i've scored tons of nice clothes thrifting and sale racks at some department stores can work out to be even cheaper than thrift stores if u do it right

[Yuppie Grinder]

my style of dress is sort of like a gym teacher crossed with circa 1985 L.L. Cool J

[Marshal of the People]

Bill Gates is a capitalist and we'll cap the capitalists :)

Angel? What is this Angel you speak ov? Angels are ov God, I am ov Satan.Yes but when/if communism is acheived why would Bill Gates need to be killed? He isn't a threat and he can't do any damage. Why can't we just let him run his charities, he won't be able to destroy our system.

[Sinister Intents]

Yes but when/if communism is acheived why would Bill Gates need to be killed? He isn't a threat and he can't do any damage. Why can't we just let him run his charities, he won't be able to destroy our system.

We will eat him :)

In all honesty if he's still alive by the time communism happens he'll probably just become a proletarian

[Marshal of the People]

We will eat him :)

In all honesty if he's still alive by the time communism happens he'll probably just become a proletarianUm... I am not the biggest fan of cannibalism but the main reason I oppose it is it would legalise murder which would create all sorts of injustice and oppression so I do not think you will be allowed to eat him.

[Sinister Intents]

Um... I am not the biggest fan of cannibalism but the main reason I oppose it is it would legalise murder which would create all sorts of injustice and oppression so I do not think you will be allowed to eat him.


Abnormality - Taste of Despair

Eat the dead, cut the flesh
Disgusting, shameful fate
Death comes slow, writhe in pain
Who can blame one faced with difficult choice
Trapped in snowy walls
Strip meat from bone
Human body carved up like any other animal
Feed the hungry children first
All join in this unholy feast
Survival instinct kicks in first
Desire to live overcomes repulsion
Soon the tasty meat is craved
The dying are given a helpful push
Half-eaten bodies strewn
Limbs, skulls, and hair
Fleshless bones
Whether in hell or on earth
Not sure if it matters
Re-discovered is the dark history of our ancestors
Human's vile survival techniques
Half-eaten bodies strewn
Limbs, skulls, and hair
Fleshless bones
Horrendous melancholy tragedy
All join in this unholy feast
To become cannibal

[Marshal of the People]

Abnormality - Taste of Despair

:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:! That was disturbing.

[Marshal of the People]

Now I may not be a punk, though I am a fan of steampunk.
Are there any other steampunk fans here?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk

[Leftsolidarity]

I'm more punx roxx than anyone

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[Creative Destruction]

i love punk music and it's derivatives, but i am not a punk.

[Creative Destruction]

Now I may not be a punk, though I am a fan of steampunk.
Are there any other steampunk fans here?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk

i think the steampunk fetish -- a weird nostalgia for a very oppressive period in time -- is extremely disturbing.

[Marshal of the People]

i think the steampunk fetish -- a weird nostalgia for a very oppressive period in time -- is extremely disturbing.How, it is cool!

[Creative Destruction]

no.

[Marshal of the People]

no.Yes!

[Quail]

I like a variety of music that could be called punk, and I like going to local gigs when I get the chance, but I don't really dress the part. Unless disintegrating jeans (they're too comfy to throw away :crying: ) and button badges count as punk.

[Yuppie Grinder]

"steampunk" is really, really lame and has nothing to do with punk music

[Zukunftsmusik]

not a punk but I love the music

[Comrade Jacob]

Although I enjoy the 2nd wave of punk-rock (The Exploited) I wouldn't describe myself a punk.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

I gave Pat the Bunny (of Johnny Hobo fame) my band's demo, but he didn't really talk to me at all. I think I flipped him out a bit by being loud and overbearing. Also wandering around trying to find oogles to finish my can of beans (apparently he hates beans).

I was once in a band that released a four-and-a-half-minute album that had fourteen songs on it.

Once I tried to pan-handle in a tourist town with a sign that said, "The rich are a useless waste of earth's resources!" and yelling insults at people. A cop gave me a quarter.

Probably there are like, only about 100 real punx left in Canada. Everyone else is a cutesy hipster playing bad soft-spoken folk songs about how hard it is to be rich, white, and straight-passing queer.

[E-Shock Executioner]

We will eat him :)

In all honesty if he's still alive by the time communism happens he'll probably just become a proletarian

In all reality.

Pretty much.

[Leftsolidarity]

Unless it's a sub-sub-sub-subgenre, it's not punx enough for me.

[Futility Personified]

Punk's been a big influence on my life, but ultimately for a series of ethics or a world perspective it's more logical to approach things from a socialist or anarchist view. Punk rock has been completely disarmed by marketing, tamed by pop-punk of the Blink variety (though there are some good pop punk bands, no doubt) and lifestylism is really a liberal deal.

[E-Shock Executioner]

Punk's been a big influence on my life, but ultimately for a series of ethics or a world perspective it's more logical to approach things from a socialist or anarchist view. Punk rock has been completely disarmed by marketing, tamed by pop-punk of the Blink variety (though there are some good pop punk bands, no doubt) and lifestylism is really a liberal deal.

Do got to say, it really is disaponitng punk bands have lost its meanings to liberal marketing

I don't think lifestyle is a liberal ideal, doesent got much to do with politics in general.

[Yuppie Grinder]

Punk's been a big influence on my life, but ultimately for a series of ethics or a world perspective it's more logical to approach things from a socialist or anarchist view. Punk rock has been completely disarmed by marketing, tamed by pop-punk of the Blink variety (though there are some good pop punk bands, no doubt) and lifestylism is really a liberal deal.

I think the internet hip hop scene has more subversive potential than punk because the shit is all free and it's not governed by market forces. That potential is being squandered though, even if the music is really good sometimes.

[Ele'ill]

last punk I listened to was limp wrist at work a few days ago- not really down with punk fashion/style but if I live long enough I will be that old person with a 4g septum piercing and a few tattoos, it's sad cause people already do the 'oh look a much older person who looks like that they are cool' thing someone build a time machine where's Noxion

[Os Cangaceiros]

I think the internet hip hop scene has more subversive potential than punk because the shit is all free and it's not governed by market forces. That potential is being squandered though, even if the music is really good sometimes.

Isn't it all free in regards to punk music on the internet, too?

[Yuppie Grinder]

Isn't it all free in regards to punk music on the internet, too?

punk culture is sentimental about vinyl
i am also guilty of this

[Os Cangaceiros]

And yeah, I like punk music a lot. Or used to, rather. Used to be about the only music I listened to, along with metal and a bit of classic rock. My favorite band was the Dead Kennedys and I remember listening to the music and pondering the parallels that I lived in & the era the DK's lived in, the Reagan Era (ie a goofy figure-head president, foreign conflicts abroad, etc.) I also liked a lot of far less politically-inclined punk music, like the Misfits, the Circle Jerks and GG Allin & the Jabbers. Oh, and Black Flag. A lot of Black Flag.

I mainly enjoyed American Hardcore, but I also appreciated earlier stuff, mainly from the UK, like the Sex Pistols, the Damned, Stiff Little Fingers and The Buzzcocks. Never really got into crust or "peace punk"

[Os Cangaceiros]

I had a Carhartt workjacket that I stitched three patches on, too (a Dead Kennedy's patch, a Misfits patch and a TSOL patch). Never really got into "punk fashion" beyond that, though.

I later lost that jacket :crying: Had sentimental value

[Futility Personified]

I think the internet hip hop scene has more subversive potential than punk because the shit is all free and it's not governed by market forces. That potential is being squandered though, even if the music is really good sometimes.

I'd appreciate if you could wing me some links at some point!

With regards to peace-punk I find that ultimately it's been counter productive, the peace element always seems to emphasis "participating" in the "democratic" process. Plus Hip Hop is always going to have a greater depth of lyricism by it's nature. That said, The King Blues - What If Punk Never Happened always manages to lift me up on a bad day. Essentially what i've seen of punk in the UK, though my location has always partially limited it, has been much more of a hippy kinda vibe with regards to taking action and direct political content.

[Sasha]

used to, cleaned up nicely since then.

still a bit of a punk in that i dont know my place and a lot in adhering to the DIY culture and various strands of punk being among my favorite music but the days of mohawks and ripped and patched up clothes are 16 years gone..

[Sasha]

did just found back my dead kennedys shirt in an old box, must be at least 16 years old, looked still good so i washed it and i think i will start wearing it again.

[The Jay]

Is it punk if you get a comb over and don't give a fuck what people think about it?

[Sasha]

Now I may not be a punk, though I am a fan of steampunk.
Are there any other steampunk fans here?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk

i buildt steam punk inspired furniture but its got little to do with punk (except maybe the DIY aspect), i would say the diesel-punk sub-genre has far more overlap with the actual punk scene


Although I enjoy the 2nd wave of punk-rock (The Exploited) I wouldn't describe myself a punk.

loved the exploited when i was 14 and angry, got bored with it fast, i work with big john duncan, he is very cool, watty is an complete bigot asshole douchebag who is way to chummy with nazi's though. he moved back to england from rotterdam at some point because the local punks here had a "knock watty out and get a tray of beer" game going on. :lol:

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

a load of punks hang around near camden market. u can tell that they've been there since the late 70s and refuse to move on.

i had my punk phase, its a necessary part of development i'd say. being a punk now is like being a hippie or a mod. there's a "punk" on my course at uni who has the mohawk and plaid trousers etc except he's painfully middle-class and well-to-do and the original punks were piss poor squatters who had fuck all. i know because my mum was one and her generation struggled until "punk" became marketed and profitable by the likes of vivienne westwood and malcolm mclaren etc.

i suppose this is why we distinguish some "punks" as "posers" lol.

i can't wait to see neo-chavs and neo-emos when i'm older hahaha

[G4b3n]

I already said I was wrong, no need to further prove it.

I didn't notice, I apologize.
However, it is a major obligation for communists not to allow bourgeois paradigms to become invisible, so critiques from different angles are always good.

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

It is essentially to see people I can talk to who in typical punk language like:

"Yo brother, some fucker rich ass ***** dried up on second avenue, pop him?"

"Yeah, I smash his *****-ass brains all over the floor"

Instead of hearing:

"Aye, it seems through a barbaric upper class citizen has strolled in!"

"Good Scott!, let us set up a rally of opposition!"
you seem to be forgetting that loads of today's punks are just angsty middle-class kids looking for an attractive phase of rebellion.

[Ele'ill]

you seem to be forgetting that loads of today's punks are just angsty middle-class kids looking for an attractive phase of rebellion.

better fit in with the other dull middle-class kids who aren't

[#FF0000]

just threw up all over the bathroom now i'm goin to sleep fuck y'all

[L.A.P.]

i listen to punk and goto punk shows but i dress like a ralph lauren polo ad

and moved to non political

I thought I was the only person who dressed in rl polos on this forum. I don't feel as out-of-place now

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I quite like rivethead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivethead) fashion, particularly black leather steel-toed boots, combat trousers, and black leather jackets.

Although if I were to actively go for that kind of look I'd probably keep my long hair because I like having it that way.

At the moment my limited finances mean that I can only partially achieve my desired look. Got the boots and the trousers, but the leather jacket still eludes me. I used to have a leather trenchcoat, but that was years ago and I have no idea what happened to it.

[E-Shock Executioner]

I think the internet hip hop scene has more subversive potential than punk because the shit is all free and it's not governed by market forces. That potential is being squandered though, even if the music is really good sometimes.

Hmm, I really am not sure.

[Rosa Partizan]

i listen to punk and goto punk shows but i dress like a ralph lauren polo ad

and moved to non political

yeah I guess it's very similar with me, except that I don't wear rl polos, but care a lot about my look, my nails, hair, perfume etc. And I gotta admit that dreadlocks creep the fuck out of me, I can't help but to find them fucking disgusting and I wanna puke all over them.

[Jimmie Higgins]

I don't try that hard. I like a lot of punk music, but I never really played the part and got turned off by a lot of 90s era punks because there was a keepin' it real obsession (due to the increased popularity of the fashion and music). I was too pop-culturally omnivorous (though most of the punks when I was growing up also listened to hip hop... at some point it turned into metal for younger punks and I really wasn't into it). I don't know the music got less macho when I first got into it (the US had it's creative period of punk later than the initial UK flowering: riot-grrl, more diversity in sound and subjects and so on) but then pop-punk happened and I think as a reaction punk music got all macho again to prove their raw and realness.

I guess I would have fit the "Slacker" stereotype - which would be like the 90s version of hipster but actually working-class, not a PBR drinking yuppie who likes to dress "working class" in irony. I'm too indie for punk I guess: now I like Garage/Psych like Oblivians and Hunx and The Spits and Thee Oh Sees when it comes to rock music. I mean I wanna mosh, but I wanna do it high.:wub:

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

better fit in with the other dull middle-class kids who aren't
or just place urself above subcultures and all their superficiality.

[Art Vandelay]

Anyone else like the minutemen at all?

[Bostana]

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[motion denied]

im not edgy enough

[The Jay]

I'm so punk that I don't shower and watch brendan cooney videos until I break for pizza.

[E-Shock Executioner]

I'm so punk that I don't shower and watch brendan cooney videos until I break for pizza.

I am so punk...

When a officer came to inspect me for achocal, I call him a bully and I lasted at least 10 seconds before pissing me pants!

Ten whole seconds! :cool:

[Sinister Intents]

I am so punk...

When a officer came to inspect me for achocal, I call him a bully and I lasted at least 10 seconds before pissing me pants!

Ten whole seconds! :cool:

Congratulations.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

"steampunk" is really, really lame and has nothing to do with punk music

You shut your mouth heathen, I don't insult your subcultures.

[E-Shock Executioner]

you seem to be forgetting that loads of today's punks are just angsty middle-class kids looking for an attractive phase of rebellion.

There called "posers" for a reason.

[Buitraker]

Of course i'am!

I dont wear boots or mohawk, but i love spend my saturdays in punk shows and be all the night at the pub
No nowdays disco shit and all stuff

[Goblin]

Fuck subcultures

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Fuck sub-cultures....mainstream is the new hip, obedience of dominant cultural norms is the new irony..right on!

Nothing wrong with different sub-cultures. I like punk, though I clearly don't have the mohawk or all the posery stuff. I like the DIY attitude, though.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Fuck subcultures

Says the peddler of adult baby stuff. That's a subculture.

[blake 3:17]

Anyone else like the minutemen at all?

massive-- my favourite SST bands are them & Dinosaur Jr -- different times but knew their weirdnessssssss

[Invader Zim]

Instead of hearing:

"Aye, it seems through a barbaric upper class citizen has strolled in!"

"Good Scott!, let us set up a rally of opposition!"

Great Scott, dear, Great.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

I love the music....but sadly there isn't much of a punk scene where I live.

So....no moshing. No mohawks. No sexy punk women.

My life is so dreary.:crying:

[Goblin]

Fuck sub-cultures....mainstream is the new hip, obedience of dominant cultural norms is the new irony..right on!

I just don't feel comfortable putting labels like "punk" on myself. That doesn't mean that i'm "obedient to dominating cultural norms" (if that's what you're implying). No need to be an obnoxious dick.



Says the peddler of adult baby stuff. That's a subculture.

Yo, leave the babies out of this!

[Art Vandelay]

massive-- my favourite SST bands are them & Dinosaur Jr -- different times but knew their weirdnessssssss

I've never understood the concept of having a 'favorite band,' since I've never been able to pick one. But I suppose if someone twisted my arm and I had to choose, it would be the minutemen. Double Nickles on the Dime, is probably the greatest outpouring of creativity I've ever come across. Never heard of Dinosaur Jr, will have to check them out.

I jam econo.

[Jimmie Higgins]

Never heard of Dinosaur Jr.?!

They were big enough to be part of the 90s band kinda-reunion-I'm-not-sure-if-they-broke-up-or-just-lost-publicity-or-just-had-drug-problems thing that happened last year.

Man do I feel old when there are suddenly reunions and "legacy" shows of bands I listened to in High School.

Maybe that's why Op Ivy will be the only punk band from my location and generation that keeps its mystique... because barely anyone actually got to see them play and they were already broken up by the time most punks heard of them.